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Why not both? Why is it an either/or situation?

Because we don’t know what may come up for Brad Stevens. Let’s say he gets fired from Boston while Coach K is extended. Then he gets another job and they win a title. He won’t be leaving after a title. So then we have to get a second tier coach instead of someone that would be the best in the business day one.
 

LouisiAaron

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You’re assuming one of the two is going to be great, though. We don’t know how Stevens would do here.

Come on now. Brad Stevens is an elite NBA coach and he coached a mid major to consecutive title games with half the talent we get. Let’s not act like he can’t come to a brand Coach K had built into a national power and win with top tier talent. This is college not the NBA. Plus this will be after the rule change so we won’t be getting these super one and done players anymore
 

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Because we don’t know what may come up for Brad Stevens. Let’s say he gets fired from Boston while Coach K is extended. Then he gets another job and they win a title. He won’t be leaving after a title. So then we have to get a second tier coach instead of someone that would be the best in the business day one.
So it's get Brad Stevens or get a second tier coach?
 
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Come on now. Brad Stevens is an elite NBA coach and he coached a mid major to consecutive title games with half the talent we get. Let’s not act like he can’t come to a brand Coach K had built into a national power and win with top tier talent. This is college not the NBA. Plus this will be after the rule change so we won’t be getting these super one and done players anymore

Stevens once said that recruiting is what he least liked about college basketball. His job at Butler was 'easier' than at Duke....by a mile.

Five years ago Shaka Smart was 'can't miss' too.

This argument is pointless anyway. Stevens isn't going to be the next Duke coach if it's tomorrow, next year, the year after or five years from now. Move on.
 

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I always enjoy it when an idiot doubles down. This guy however always seems to go for the triple.
 

LouisiAaron

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Stevens once said that recruiting is what he least liked about college basketball. His job at Butler was 'easier' than at Duke....by a mile.

Five years ago Shaka Smart was 'can't miss' too.

This argument is pointless anyway. Stevens isn't going to be the next Duke coach if it's tomorrow, next year, the year after or five years from now. Move on.

You don’t know what will happen with Duke and who will be the next coach. If you did you wouldn’t be here with us. Someone that well connected to the program wouldn’t be here unless you’re a child. So yea. My opinion on who I think should be the next coach. Let’s not get sensitive
 

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No common sense would say if you have an elite coach that’s ready to come and you have an old coach that can wake up one day and say I can’t do this anymore then give me the young coach. I rather us not have a Bo Ryan situation. What do we lose by Coach K retiring and Brad Stevens coming in? Y’all really acting butt hurt over this hahaha

You are a Duke “fan” for one reason, and that is coach K. Otherwise, There is a strong chance, we’re Vanderbilt, or Northwestern. Instead, they’re in position to hire a top notch coach, when the reason you are Duke, chooses to retire.
 

Mpm277

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I remember being a kid and seeing my first Duke loss. I don't think it stayed with me as long, though.
 

LouisiAaron

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I always enjoy it when an idiot doubles down. This guy however always seems to go for the triple.

Where are you from? Usually when people have something to say about someone they tag them to let it be known. But I guess you’re into the passive aggressive stuff. That’s not my thing.
 

dukiejay

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You don’t know what will happen with Duke and who will be the next coach. If you did you wouldn’t be here with us. Someone that well connected to the program wouldn’t be here unless you’re a child. So yea. My opinion on who I think should be the next coach. Let’s not get sensitive

Did I claim to know who would be the next coach? All I said is that it wouldn't be Stevens. I stand by that.

You look like a complete idiot in this thread, btw.
 

LouisiAaron

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You are a Duke “fan” for one reason, and that is coach K. Otherwise, There is a strong chance, we’re Vanderbilt, or Northwestern. Instead, they’re in position to hire a top notch coach, when the reason you are Duke, chooses to retire.

Why are y’all so defensive and get butt hurt when someone say something about Coach K? I didn’t even say anything negative. I just said he shouldn’t extend if we can get Brad Stevens after the 20-21 season. This is wild right here. Y’all have to be family members. It’s truly odd how emotional some of you get
 

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Why are y’all so defensive and get butt hurt when someone say something about Coach K? I didn’t even say anything negative. I just said he shouldn’t extend if we can get Brad Stevens after the 20-21 season. This is wild right here. Y’all have to be family members. It’s truly odd how emotional some of you get

I’m not emotional at all, but I feel that loyalty is important. I don’t agree with your take, making it seems like I am reacting to you in some crazy way, doesn’t make you any more right, or your take any more relevant. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you, it’s just how it is for me.
 

LouisiAaron

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I’m not emotional at all, but I feel that loyalty is important. I don’t agree with your take, making it seems like I am reacting to you in some crazy way, doesn’t make you any more right, or your take any more relevant. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you, it’s just how it is for me.

That’s not biting the hand. I just said I hope he doesn’t extend and we get Brad Stevens. I didn’t say run him out like FSU did Bowden. It’s not personal. It’s business. Sometimes being loyal backfires on you.
 

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@dachampishere2, it seems like you're entire argument is that Brad Stevens is a good coach even with average talent (which I'd agree with) so he'd be all the more amazing at Duke with kids like Bagley, RJ, Zion, etc. But what you seem to be missing is that we get those kids because of K. They want to play for K. As much as I'd love to have Stevens here at Duke, there is no reason to believe we get the same level of talent. There is every reason not to, though.
 
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LouisiAaron

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@dachampishere2, it seems like you're entire argument is that Brad Stevens is a good coach even with average talent (which I'd agree with) so he'd be all the more amazing at Duke with kids like Bagley, RJ, Zion, etc. But what you seem to be missing is that we get those kids because of K. They want to play for K. As much as I'd love to have Stevens here at Duke, there is not reason to believe we get the same level of talent. There is every reason not to, though.

If that’s the case we need the best possible coach. Coach K will be gone so we won’t get the same caliber of player. So coaching will stand out even more. This makes my point. We need the best coach out there to stay on top
 

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If that’s the case we need the best possible coach. Coach K will be gone so we won’t get the same caliber of player. So coaching will stand out even more. This makes my point. We need the best coach out there to stay on top
Right; when K leaves I hope we get the best coach possible. When K decides to leave.. I'm not looking to replace him, though.
 

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Right; when K leaves I hope we get the best coach possible. When K decides to leave.. I'm not looking to replace him, though.

It was changed from “don’t extend him!” to “I hope he doesn’t extend.” Which is different, but I’m sure we can all agree, we all want the best possible coach as a replacement.
 

LouisiAaron

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It was changed from “don’t extend him!” to “I hope he doesn’t extend.” Which is different, but I’m sure we can all agree, we all want the best possible coach as a replacement.

Man what? Hahaha. You can flip it how you want. I don’t think Coach K should coach past 2020-21 season if we can really get Stevens. You get it now. I haven’t changed my position. 2021-2022 coach should be Brad Stevens. PERIOD. That’s my opinion. So there won’t be anymore misunderstandings. You seem confused
 

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Man what? Hahaha. You can flip it how you want. I don’t think Coach K should coach past 2020-21 season if we can really get Stevens. You get it now. I haven’t changed my position. 2021-2022 coach should be Brad Stevens. PERIOD. That’s my opinion. So there won’t be anymore misunderstandings. You seem confused

Nope, I’ve fallowed every variation, of what you’re saying.
 

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Stevens is a great coach. If Duke were to make a hire outside of the Coach K tree, he'd certainly be among a select few at the top of the list. But let's not pretend what he accomplished at Butler makes it some kind of certainty he's going to keep Duke rolling. The Duke job is a different animal....the microscope, recruiting, constant coverage, etc. There's nowhere to go and hide.....and there's nothing cozy about coaching at Duke.

Don't take this as some kind of suggestion I don't think he can do it. That's not what this is at all. I've just learned in life that the grass isn't always greener. I think guys who've spent time at Duke, recruited here and handled the daily pressures carry with them advantages, as well.
That’s a good point but if he can’t do it then i don’t know who can