Breaking down the Cats and Dogs

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Halfway through the SEC slate, Kentucky is VERY alive in the eastern division race. How crazy is that? Not only are the Cats just one game back and tied for 2nd place with Tennessee, but the road to Atlanta doesn't look all that impossible to navigate. How crazy is THAT???? While UK has as good a shot as they've ever had of winning the division (that probably isn't saying much), the path leaves no room for error. One loss will likely end the dream. First up, Mississippi State. MSU has knocked the Cats off seven years in a row. That's hard to believe, especially when you consider the Dogs had just 15 wins all-time against UK prior to the streak. Dan Mullen brings another physical team to Lexington. He also has another bulldozer at QB. How UK handles Mullen's dual threat signal caller will be key. As for Kentucky, a dreadful eight quarter stretch that had fans talking about Mark Stoops being fired has given way to a 3-1 run featuring two league wins and a fairly competitive performance at Alabama. Can the Cats keep things going against struggling Mississippi State? No question, this is a HUGE game for Kentucky!

Line: Kentucky +3

Series: Mississippi State leads 22-21

Television/Game Time: SEC Network (7:30 eastern)

Kentucky offense vs. Mississippi State defense: Advantage Mississippi State
Think about the damage this offense could do with a solid quarterback. Not elite. Not even very good. Just solid. The Cats have playmakers all over the place. Boom Williams ranks 7th in the league in rushing. Benny Snell is averaging over 5 yards per carry (on pace for a 700 yard season). UK has one of the best TE's in college football and a very good group of WR's. The OL is playing better than I thought they would. Unfortunately, QB continues to be a severe problem. Stephen Johnson struggled mightily against Vanderbilt, throwing 6-7 balls that SHOULD have been picked. VU's defense is no joke though. And neither is MSU's. The Dogs aren't necessarily dominant, but they're as aggressive as any defense UK has played. They'll blitz a LOT! They'll give Johnson a LOT of looks. They'll pressure the LOS with 6-7 more often than anyone UK has played so far. In short, they're not going to make things comfortable for Johnson. So how does Eddie Gran attack MSU's defense? I would think we'll see more WR screens than usual. With the press coverage UK will see, maybe more fades and deep routes. Certainly, Gran will have to emphasize quick throws with the passing game and a lot of inside stuff with the run game. Because MSU is so aggressive, Boom, Benny and Jo Jo might have opportunities to break some for big gains. I don't think UK is likely to sustain long drives against State, but Kentucky is going to get some 1-on-1 opportunities outside. And I think they'll hit a couple of long runs as well.

Kentucky defense vs. Mississippi State offense: Slight advantage Kentucky
First thought with this matchup....QB Nick Fitzgerald is going to be a handful. The 6'5, 230 pounder leads MSU in rushing (with plenty of room to spare). Fitzgerald has rushed for 431 yards, double the number of RB Brandon Holloway (Holloway is likely to miss this weekend's game). No other RB on the roster is averaging even 30 yards per game. The Dogs passing game has been better than UK's but not by much (89th nationally). Fitzgerald has completed 55% of his passes. His two main targets are Fred Ross and Donald Gray. UK's secondary should matchup well with both. The key to this game EVERY YEAR seems to be Dan Mullen's ability to out-scheme UK's DC. For whatever reason, MSU runs downhill against UK at will. I think that stops this season. UK's defense has seen substantial improvement over the last 14 quarters. Kentucky has allowed just four touchdowns over the last 36 opponent drives. That stat is absolutely unbelievable for ANY defense. Why the improvement? The front seven has gone from putrid to good. Denzil Ware and Jordan Jones each rank in the top five in the SEC in sacks. In general, UK's young linebackers have played better football. I've been impressed with lineman Courtney Miggins and Naque Pringle as well. MSU's o-line, which will be down a starter this weekend, is physical but not dominant. As long as Kentucky doesn't allow MSU to run the ball down their throat (and MSU shouldn't), I like them in this matchup. UK has corners that can cover Ross and Gray. UK has linebackers that can deal with Fitzgerald. I admit, I feel a little awkward feeling confidence with UK's defense, but four TD's in 36 possessions says something about their talent and potential.

Special Teams: Advantage Kentucky
Another nice development has been UK's ability to look functional in the kicking game. UK ranks 26th nationally returning kicks (State is 104th). UK ranks 8th returning punts (granted, it's a small sample size, but 8th is 8th). MSU is 108th. Both teams have solid K's, but I'm getting to the point where I'll take Austin MacGinnis over almost anyone. For his career, MacGinnis has drilled 14-21 kicks from 40+ yards. Inside 40 yards, he's 25-29. Those are pretty damned impressive numbers.

Mississippi State will win if...their defense takes advantage of Stephen Johnson mistakes. Johnson's pocket awareness is poor. He's struggled to take care of the football. MSU will pressure the hell out of him. Gran has to keep things simple for the young QB.

Kentucky will win if...Johnson avoids game changing turnovers and the defense contains Fitzgerald. I don't think UK needs a big game from Johnson, but they can't afford to give points away like they did against Alabama and Vanderbilt. Generally, I despise conservative, field position football, but I won't this weekend. I won't even complain if UK runs on 3rd and 7.

Prediction...Kentucky 20 Mississippi State 17...With two weeks to prepare, I think Eddie Gran will have Johnson ready to go. I also think UK is going to run the football on damn near every play. Hopefully, that opens up some deep stuff for Johnson/Badet/Baker and the seams for Conrad. I also think the UK defense gets the job done against an offense that doesn't have a boatload of weapons.

Previous Picks
(5-1 S/U, 3-3 ATS)
Kentucky 31 Southern Mississippi 27
Florida 23 Kentucky10
Kentucky 48 New Mexico State 13
Kentucky 31 South Carolina 26
Alabama 55 Kentucky 7
Kentucky 23 Vanderbilt 13

GBB!!!
 
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Halfway through the SEC slate, Kentucky is VERY alive in the eastern division race. How crazy is that? Not only are the Cats just one game back and tied for 2nd place with Tennessee, but the road to Atlanta doesn't look all that impossible to navigate. How crazy is THAT???? While UK has as good a shot as they've ever had of winning the division (that probably isn't saying much), the path leaves no room for error. One loss will likely end the dream. First up, Mississippi State. MSU has knocked the Cats off seven years in a row. That's hard to believe, especially when you consider the Dogs had just 15 wins all-time against UK prior to the streak. Dan Mullen brings another physical team to Lexington. He also has another bulldozer at QB. How UK handles Mullen's dual threat signal caller will be key. As for Kentucky, a dreadful eight quarter stretch that had fans talking about Mark Stoops being fired has given way to a 3-1 run featuring two league wins and a fairly competitive performance at Alabama. Can the Cats keep things going against struggling Mississippi State? No question, this is a HUGE game for Kentucky!

Line: Kentucky +3

Series: Mississippi State leads 22-21

Television/Game Time: SEC Network (7:30 eastern)

Kentucky offense vs. Mississippi State defense: Advantage Mississippi State
Think about the damage this offense could do with a solid quarterback. Not elite. Not even very good. Just solid. The Cats have playmakers all over the place. Boom Williams ranks 7th in the league in rushing. Benny Snell is averaging over 5 yards per carry (on pace for a 700 yard season). UK has one of the best TE's in college football and a very good group of WR's. The OL is playing better than I thought they would. Unfortunately, QB continues to be a severe problem. Stephen Johnson struggled mightily against Vanderbilt, throwing 6-7 balls that SHOULD have been picked. VU's defense is no joke though. And neither is MSU's. The Dogs aren't necessarily dominant, but they're as aggressive as any defense UK has played. They'll blitz a LOT! They'll give Johnson a LOT of looks. They'll pressure the LOS with 6-7 more often than anyone UK has played so far. In short, they're not going to make things comfortable for Johnson. So how does Eddie Gran attack MSU's defense? I would think we'll see more WR screens than usual. With the press coverage UK will see, maybe more fades and deep routes. Certainly, Gran will have to emphasize quick throws with the passing game and a lot of inside stuff with the run game. Because MSU is so aggressive, Boom, Benny and Jo Jo might have opportunities to break some for big gains. I don't think UK is likely to sustain long drives against State, but Kentucky is going to get some 1-on-1 opportunities outside. And I think they'll hit a couple of long runs as well.

Kentucky defense vs. Mississippi State offense: Slight advantage Kentucky
First thought with this matchup....QB Nick Fitzgerald is going to be a handful. The 6'5, 230 pounder leads MSU in rushing (with plenty of room to spare). Fitzgerald has rushed for 431 yards, double the number of RB Brandon Holloway (Holloway is likely to miss this weekend's game). No other RB on the roster is averaging even 30 yards per game. The Dogs passing game has been better than UK's but not by much (89th nationally). Fitzgerald has completed 55% of his passes. His two main targets are Fred Ross and Donald Gray. UK's secondary should matchup well with both. The key to this game EVERY YEAR seems to be Dan Mullen's ability to out-scheme UK's DC. For whatever reason, MSU runs downhill against UK at will. I think that stops this season. UK's defense has seen substantial improvement over the last 14 quarters. Kentucky has allowed just four touchdowns over the last 36 opponent drives. That stat is absolutely unbelievable for ANY defense. Why the improvement? The front seven has gone from putrid to good. Denzil Ware and Jordan Jones each rank in the top five in the SEC in sacks. In general, UK's young linebackers have played better football. I've been impressed with lineman Courtney Miggins and Naque Pringle as well. MSU's o-line, which will be down a starter this weekend, is physical but not dominant. As long as Kentucky doesn't allow MSU to run the ball down their throat (and MSU shouldn't), I like them in this matchup. UK has corners that can cover Ross and Gray. UK has linebackers that can deal with Fitzgerald. I admit, I feel a little awkward feeling confidence with UK's defense, but four TD's in 36 possessions says something about their talent and potential.

Special Teams: Advantage Kentucky
Another nice development has been UK's ability to look functional in the kicking game. UK ranks 26th nationally returning kicks (State is 104th). UK ranks 8th returning punts (granted, it's a small sample size, but 8th is 8th). MSU is 108th. Both teams have solid K's, but I'm getting to the point where I'll take Austin MacGinnis over almost anyone. For his career, MacGinnis has drilled 14-21 kicks from 40+ yards. Inside 40 yards, he's 25-29. Those are pretty damned impressive numbers.

Mississippi State will win if...their defense takes advantage of Stephen Johnson mistakes. Johnson's pocket awareness is poor. He's struggled to take care of the football. MSU will pressure the hell out of him. Gran has to keep things simple for the young QB.

Kentucky will win if...Johnson avoids game changing turnovers and the defense contains Fitzgerald. I don't think UK needs a big game from Johnson, but they can't afford to give points away like they did against Alabama and Vanderbilt. Generally, I despise conservative, field position football, but I won't this weekend. I won't even complain if UK runs on 3rd and 7.

Prediction...Kentucky 20 Mississippi State 17...With two weeks to prepare, I think Eddie Gran will have Johnson ready to go. I also think UK is going to run the football on damn near every play. Hopefully, that opens up some deep stuff for UK's WR's against MSU's secondary. I also think the UK defense gets the job done against an offense that doesn't have a boatload of weapons.

Previous Picks
(5-1 S/U, 3-3 ATS)
Kentucky 31 Southern Mississippi 27
Florida 23 Kentucky10
Kentucky 48 New Mexico State 13
Kentucky 31 South Carolina 26
Alabama 55 Kentucky 7
Kentucky 23 Vanderbilt 13

GBB!!!
I heavily disagree with the MSU defense having the advantage. I've watched almost all MSU games this year. And one thing they absolutely 100% cannot handle. Is a physical running back. I've watched 4th string former fullbacks destroy the MSU defense this year. Boom is quick, but he's also underrated in the fact he's very strong, Benny Snell (and I think JOJO plays huge role this game as well), are just way too physical for this MSU run defense. All 3 backs I truly believe will run over MSU, which should or at least could open up the passing game and play action passing. Run 2-3 screen passes once we got them on their toes could be very effective as well. The QB they have is a freshman (at least I think he is?), very strong and hard to bring down, but not very hard to contain he doesn't have blazing speed by any stretch of the imagination he runs about as fast as barker does, maybe towles, I dont by any means consider him a dual threat QB because he's not fast at all. But the guy can throw just very young and mistake prone but will end up being a player. I like this matchup. But maybe MSU plays with a ton of heart after the most recent loss. And when games come down to heart, I don't like our chances many times I've questioned the heart of Mark Stoops' teams.

The Vandy game we almost completely blew it due to lack of heart IMO. Many will say we won, which shows heart, but those people choose to forget Vandy dropped a wide open TD pass for a likely win which didn't come from our team having heart. You can't credit UK for other teams blowing it and vandy was going to go for 2 had they scored since they had all momentum on the road, us leaving that TE wide open shows ZERO heart, we gave the game away, Vandy just didn't take advantage. I feel like the heart area of the game when you gotta gut things out, I truly believe is one of the spots Stoops fails miserably at most besides clock management and in game coaching/halftime/in game adjustments. Those are 2 areas he's been less than stellar at. Heart, And in game coaching/adjustments.
 
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Our team is working hard and deserves some success the last half of the season. Go Cats!

It won't come easy Saturday. Here is a scary statistic: The SEC West teams are 7-0 against the SEC East so far this year with an average winning margin of 23.4 points.
 
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MSU's kicker is very suspect. He cost MSU the game against South Alabama, and missed the opening FG against both Auburn and BYU.

MSU was so worried about kicking FGs against BYU that they went for it on 4th down rather than kick twice, in a very tight game.
 
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I wish I had more faith in our quarterback play, but I think it's a 50-50 game...I gave us a slight edge before the VU game, but Johnson's performance concerns me.
 
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Halfway through the SEC slate, Kentucky is VERY alive in the eastern division race. How crazy is that? Not only are the Cats just one game back and tied for 2nd place with Tennessee, but the road to Atlanta doesn't look all that impossible to navigate. How crazy is THAT???? While UK has as good a shot as they've ever had of winning the division (that probably isn't saying much), the path leaves no room for error. One loss will likely end the dream. First up, Mississippi State. MSU has knocked the Cats off seven years in a row. That's hard to believe, especially when you consider the Dogs had just 15 wins all-time against UK prior to the streak. Dan Mullen brings another physical team to Lexington. He also has another bulldozer at QB. How UK handles Mullen's dual threat signal caller will be key. As for Kentucky, a dreadful eight quarter stretch that had fans talking about Mark Stoops being fired has given way to a 3-1 run featuring two league wins and a fairly competitive performance at Alabama. Can the Cats keep things going against struggling Mississippi State? No question, this is a HUGE game for Kentucky!

Line: Kentucky +3

Series: Mississippi State leads 22-21

Television/Game Time: SEC Network (7:30 eastern)

Kentucky offense vs. Mississippi State defense: Advantage Mississippi State
Think about the damage this offense could do with a solid quarterback. Not elite. Not even very good. Just solid. The Cats have playmakers all over the place. Boom Williams ranks 7th in the league in rushing. Benny Snell is averaging over 5 yards per carry (on pace for a 700 yard season). UK has one of the best TE's in college football and a very good group of WR's. The OL is playing better than I thought they would. Unfortunately, QB continues to be a severe problem. Stephen Johnson struggled mightily against Vanderbilt, throwing 6-7 balls that SHOULD have been picked. VU's defense is no joke though. And neither is MSU's. The Dogs aren't necessarily dominant, but they're as aggressive as any defense UK has played. They'll blitz a LOT! They'll give Johnson a LOT of looks. They'll pressure the LOS with 6-7 more often than anyone UK has played so far. In short, they're not going to make things comfortable for Johnson. So how does Eddie Gran attack MSU's defense? I would think we'll see more WR screens than usual. With the press coverage UK will see, maybe more fades and deep routes. Certainly, Gran will have to emphasize quick throws with the passing game and a lot of inside stuff with the run game. Because MSU is so aggressive, Boom, Benny and Jo Jo might have opportunities to break some for big gains. I don't think UK is likely to sustain long drives against State, but Kentucky is going to get some 1-on-1 opportunities outside. And I think they'll hit a couple of long runs as well.

Kentucky defense vs. Mississippi State offense: Slight advantage Kentucky
First thought with this matchup....QB Nick Fitzgerald is going to be a handful. The 6'5, 230 pounder leads MSU in rushing (with plenty of room to spare). Fitzgerald has rushed for 431 yards, double the number of RB Brandon Holloway (Holloway is likely to miss this weekend's game). No other RB on the roster is averaging even 30 yards per game. The Dogs passing game has been better than UK's but not by much (89th nationally). Fitzgerald has completed 55% of his passes. His two main targets are Fred Ross and Donald Gray. UK's secondary should matchup well with both. The key to this game EVERY YEAR seems to be Dan Mullen's ability to out-scheme UK's DC. For whatever reason, MSU runs downhill against UK at will. I think that stops this season. UK's defense has seen substantial improvement over the last 14 quarters. Kentucky has allowed just four touchdowns over the last 36 opponent drives. That stat is absolutely unbelievable for ANY defense. Why the improvement? The front seven has gone from putrid to good. Denzil Ware and Jordan Jones each rank in the top five in the SEC in sacks. In general, UK's young linebackers have played better football. I've been impressed with lineman Courtney Miggins and Naque Pringle as well. MSU's o-line, which will be down a starter this weekend, is physical but not dominant. As long as Kentucky doesn't allow MSU to run the ball down their throat (and MSU shouldn't), I like them in this matchup. UK has corners that can cover Ross and Gray. UK has linebackers that can deal with Fitzgerald. I admit, I feel a little awkward feeling confidence with UK's defense, but four TD's in 36 possessions says something about their talent and potential.

Special Teams: Advantage Kentucky
Another nice development has been UK's ability to look functional in the kicking game. UK ranks 26th nationally returning kicks (State is 104th). UK ranks 8th returning punts (granted, it's a small sample size, but 8th is 8th). MSU is 108th. Both teams have solid K's, but I'm getting to the point where I'll take Austin MacGinnis over almost anyone. For his career, MacGinnis has drilled 14-21 kicks from 40+ yards. Inside 40 yards, he's 25-29. Those are pretty damned impressive numbers.

Mississippi State will win if...their defense takes advantage of Stephen Johnson mistakes. Johnson's pocket awareness is poor. He's struggled to take care of the football. MSU will pressure the hell out of him. Gran has to keep things simple for the young QB.

Kentucky will win if...Johnson avoids game changing turnovers and the defense contains Fitzgerald. I don't think UK needs a big game from Johnson, but they can't afford to give points away like they did against Alabama and Vanderbilt. Generally, I despise conservative, field position football, but I won't this weekend. I won't even complain if UK runs on 3rd and 7.

Prediction...Kentucky 20 Mississippi State 17...With two weeks to prepare, I think Eddie Gran will have Johnson ready to go. I also think UK is going to run the football on damn near every play. Hopefully, that opens up some deep stuff for Johnson/Badet/Baker and the seams for Conrad. I also think the UK defense gets the job done against an offense that doesn't have a boatload of weapons.

Previous Picks
(5-1 S/U, 3-3 ATS)
Kentucky 31 Southern Mississippi 27
Florida 23 Kentucky10
Kentucky 48 New Mexico State 13
Kentucky 31 South Carolina 26
Alabama 55 Kentucky 7
Kentucky 23 Vanderbilt 13

GBB!!!


I love the cautious optimism. I think the Cats have a real chance at this game and to make a bowl, but it is up to them!! Go Big Blue
 

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Thanks UKErik! It is good to see one of your "regular" game breakdowns. I tend to agree with your assessment. The defense is improving with each play, and I am optimistic about Coaches Gran and Hinshaw getting Johnson ready for this game. And I look for Boom, Jo Jo and Benny to have good games. Go Cats!!
 

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Erik, I get nervous when you pick the Cats b/c they've burnt you (and many of the rest of us) a lot over the last few years...hope you're right.
 

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I heavily disagree with the MSU defense having the advantage. I've watched almost all MSU games this year. And one thing they absolutely 100% cannot handle. Is a physical running back. I've watched 4th string former fullbacks destroy the MSU defense this year. Boom is quick, but he's also underrated in the fact he's very strong, Benny Snell (and I think JOJO plays huge role this game as well), are just way too physical for this MSU run defense. All 3 backs I truly believe will run over MSU, which should or at least could open up the passing game and play action passing. Run 2-3 screen passes once we got them on their toes could be very effective as well. The QB they have is a freshman (at least I think he is?), very strong and hard to bring down, but not very hard to contain he doesn't have blazing speed by any stretch of the imagination he runs about as fast as barker does, maybe towles, I dont by any means consider him a dual threat QB because he's not fast at all. But the guy can throw just very young and mistake prone but will end up being a player. I like this matchup. But maybe MSU plays with a ton of heart after the most recent loss. And when games come down to heart, I don't like our chances many times I've questioned the heart of Mark Stoops' teams.

The Vandy game we almost completely blew it due to lack of heart IMO. Many will say we won, which shows heart, but those people choose to forget Vandy dropped a wide open TD pass for a likely win which didn't come from our team having heart. You can't credit UK for other teams blowing it and vandy was going to go for 2 had they scored since they had all momentum on the road, us leaving that TE wide open shows ZERO heart, we gave the game away, Vandy just didn't take advantage. I feel like the heart area of the game when you gotta gut things out, I truly believe is one of the spots Stoops fails miserably at most besides clock management and in game coaching/halftime/in game adjustments. Those are 2 areas he's been less than stellar at. Heart, And in game coaching/adjustments.
Lol!! No heart!? What about the heart shown by a team that had everyone outside their locker room, save a few, against them after the first 2 games, only to come back and go 3-1 over the next 4?
What about the heart our defense is using to get better after being called the worst in the history of the game and the constant bashing from its own fans?
What about the heart they have to trust in one another and continue to play hard and improve.
KENTUCKY dominated that game other than 1 freaking drive that ended IN ZERO points. And on that drive, they were conceding yards, which I hate, but they were to try to make a team with zero time outs use the clock. You use one dropped pass to say we don't have heart. What about the rest of the game? Did they not show heart by building a lead that allowed for a dropped pass to give them the win? Did they not show heart by not allowing a single touchdown on defense the entire game?

Apparently, you don't understand what heart is.
 

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Lol!! No heart!? What about the heart shown by a team that had everyone outside their locker room, save a few, against them after the first 2 games, only to come back and go 3-1 over the next 4?
What about the heart our defense is using to get better after being called the worst in the history of the game and the constant bashing from its own fans?
What about the heart they have to trust in one another and continue to play hard and improve.
KENTUCKY dominated that game other than 1 freaking drive that ended IN ZERO points. And on that drive, they were conceding yards, which I hate, but they were to try to make a team with zero time outs use the clock. You use one dropped pass to say we don't have heart. What about the rest of the game? Did they not show heart by building a lead that allowed for a dropped pass to give them the win? Did they not show heart by not allowing a single touchdown on defense the entire game?

Apparently, you don't understand what heart is.
Merrimanm, I like you post. To what "no heart" post are you referring? I can't find it. Go Cats!!
 

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Great write up and wouldn't change a word. Also believe it's all on Johnson and how he reacts to pressure. Can't drop the ball and can't have panic throws. But if he stays calm and gets it to the skill guys we on short throws we can wear them out.
 

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Merrimanm, I like you post. To what "no heart" post are you referring? I can't find it. Go Cats!!
probably from some piece of crap you & are are wise enough to have on ignor

if UK scores at least 20 points we will win, think State's plodding nonexplosive offense is not going to go over 17. This game I look for us to mix up our tendencies....look for Johnson to get more of the run/pass option outside like he did so explosively against NMST. I also out of our Wildcat looks with Kemp & Snell on some 3rd & shorts for them for the first time to hand off to the receiver in motion for a jet sweep to get one of our playmakers on the outside.
 
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3kidsandme

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I honestly do not see this game being all that close. Uk is the more talented team at home. Im thinking a score like 24 13
 

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I trust the front 7 to limit the ground game and contain the QB. I just hope this is the game that the DB's live up to their preseason hype. Would be nice to pick off Miss St a couple times.
 
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vhcat70

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I think SJ just isn't used to the D ripping the ball out of his hands. I think it's happened enough times now that he's learned.
 

Mr Schwump

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Their QB throws just well enough and runs just well enough to give UK problems. And in Ross they have one of the SEC's better WRs. Their D is fast and physical. We'll see them stack the box and make Johnson beat them. Can he?

I'm in the minority and hope I'm wrong but...State 24-17.
 

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I think it will be a close game, but with Miss. State's team with their back against the wall in a must-win situation I think they pull out a close one, 24-17. They are still the more talented roster top-to-bottom and they have the better overall coaching staff. They also have the advantage in the trenches and at the most important position on the field which is key. It'll be close because I think our defense and running game will give us a chance in most games, but we're still just not a very good team at this point, too many errors in too many key moments..you're not going to beat SEC teams outside of SCAR and Vandy (and maybe Mizzou) with missed assignments and poor throws and decisions from the QB position. It will take our best game of the season to beat State. They will load the box and force Johnson to throw and that's a scary proposition at this point.
 

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probably from some piece of crap you & are are wise enough to have on ignor

if UK scores at least 20 points we will win, think State's plodding nonexplosive offense is not going to go over 17. This game I look for us to mix up our tendencies....look for Johnson to get more of the run/pass option outside like he did so explosively against NMST. I also out of our Wildcat looks with Kemp & Snell on some 3rd & shorts for them for the first time to hand off to the receiver in motion for a jet sweep to get one of our playmakers on the outside.
Thanks JHB4UK. I forgot about the "ignores". Go Cats!!
 

3kidsandme

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I think it will be a close game, but with Miss. State's team with their back against the wall in a must-win situation I think they pull out a close one, 24-17. They are still the more talented roster top-to-bottom and they have the better overall coaching staff. They also have the advantage in the trenches and at the most important position on the field which is key. It'll be close because I think our defense and running game will give us a chance in most games, but we're still just not a very good team at this point, too many errors in too many key moments..you're not going to beat SEC teams outside of SCAR and Vandy (and maybe Mizzou) with missed assignments and poor throws and decisions from the QB position. It will take our best game of the season to beat State. They will load the box and force Johnson to throw and that's a scary proposition at this point.
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I think it will be a close game, but with Miss. State's team with their back against the wall in a must-win situation I think they pull out a close one, 24-17. They are still the more talented roster top-to-bottom and they have the better overall coaching staff. They also have the advantage in the trenches and at the most important position on the field which is key. It'll be close because I think our defense and running game will give us a chance in most games, but we're still just not a very good team at this point, too many errors in too many key moments..you're not going to beat SEC teams outside of SCAR and Vandy (and maybe Mizzou) with missed assignments and poor throws and decisions from the QB position. It will take our best game of the season to beat State. They will load the box and force Johnson to throw and that's a scary proposition at this point.
State is not the more talented roster. UK has more talent at Rb Wr backer oline and the secondary. State probably has the edge at qb and dline. Uk played pretty awful and manhandled a very solid Vandy team who beat Uga at home. Uk will be the better team Saturday and if the turnover margin is close we win
 

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Every time I think of Mississippi State defense, I think of old Joe Lee Dunn and how he'd try about anything. May be the only time I've ever seen a DT drop into coverage! :joy:

I think we're going to win. Really hope CWS is packed and rocking. Proud of how the team did not cash in on the season.
 
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Deeeefense

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State's team with their back against the wall in a must-win situation I think they pull out a close one, 24-17.

Honestly I can't see more than two wins left on their schedule and that's if they manage to beat us which I doubt. I think they are cooked, they know they are cooked and you won't see any type of heroic back-to-the-wall effort. Of course I could be wrong but that's what I see.
 
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KyCatFan1

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I'm still not sold on our improvement. It is better than the start of the season but the teams we are playing lately (besides Bama) have been pretty mediocre. Miss St is possibly a little better than Vandy but not much if they are. We could win this one and still be a bad team. At least we are beating the teams now that we are supposed to beat so that is a positive.

This is a must win game if the Stoops era is going to continue beyond this year. Unless the quarterback play is improved (passing and ball security), I don't think we will win this one. That will likely start us down the usual late season collapse, but I hope they prove me wrong.
 

JHannibalSmith

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I think Johnson bounces back with a solid game, 15 out of 23, 2 tds, no pics, 183 yards in the air.

If SJ can produce a stat line similar to your prediction I feel very confident about our chances Saturday. In fact, if he can consistently put up average numbers without turning over the football I think 7 wins is a real possibility. Like Erik said, we have several playmakers all over the field. Just have to find a way to get the ball in their hands.

However, if SJ has another Vandy type performance we will be in trouble. Teams are gonna stack the box & make him beat them. He HAS to develop some kind of consistency making the easy throws to keep defenses honest. Seems like simply completing a pass has been a milestone or moral victory the last couple weeks. Very frustrating to struggle so mightily in the passing game at this level. Hopefully, his wrist injury was the issue & he can provide some steady play from here on out. If not, we'll be lucky to win 2 more games. But, I think he rebounds with a solid effort & we pull out a 24-20 win.
 
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3kidsandme

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If SJ can produce a stat line similar to your prediction I feel very confident about our chances Saturday. In fact, if he can consistently put up average numbers without turning over the football I think 7 wins is a real possibility. Like Erik said, we have several playmakers all over the field. Just have to find a way to get the ball in their hands.

However, if SJ has another Vandy type performance we will be in trouble. Teams are gonna stack the box & make him beat them. He HAS to develop some kind of consistency making the easy throws to keep defenses honest. Seems like simply completing a pass has been a milestone or moral victory the last couple weeks. Very frustrating to struggle so mightily in the passing game at this level. Hopefully, his wrist injury was the issue & he can provide some steady play from here on out. If not, we'll be lucky to win 2 more games. But, I think he rebounds with a solid effort & we pull out a 24-20 win.
Everybody keeps saying teams will stack the box does anybody really think that was not vandy and usc strategy? Its not that easy to stop snell and boom when one is elite fast and the other carries defenders 4 and 5 yards after contact. You mix in the qb run game and it makes things that much more difficult to stop our ground game. We will run for 200 plus stacked box and all. Key is turnovers
 

JHannibalSmith

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Everybody keeps saying teams will stack the box does anybody really think that was not vandy and usc strategy? Its not that easy to stop snell and boom when one is elite fast and the other carries defenders 4 and 5 yards after contact. You mix in the qb run game and it makes things that much more difficult to stop our ground game. We will run for 200 plus stacked box and all. Key is turnovers

I agree about the TOs but IMO you HAVE to have some semblance of a passing game. We'll have to beat somebody better than Vandy or South Carolina before I believe we can win with a one dimensional, predictable offense. Boom & Snell are great but they're a little easier to defend when there's no threat of a pass. And, we scored 17 & 20 in those two wins. Luckily, we were going against 2 of the worst offenses in FBS & 37 points was enough to win those games. The defense played well but 17 & 20 isn't gonna get it done most weeks. JMO, I could be wrong. It's just tough when the defense brings more guys than you can block AND they have a pretty good idea where the ball is going.
 

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Everybody keeps saying teams will stack the box does anybody really think that was not vandy and usc strategy? Its not that easy to stop snell and boom when one is elite fast and the other carries defenders 4 and 5 yards after contact. You mix in the qb run game and it makes things that much more difficult to stop our ground game. We will run for 200 plus stacked box and all. Key is turnovers

at this point, I'm almost like "PLEASE stack the box on us." We've got RBs to rotate and a closer in Snell. Johnson needs all the 1-on-1's he can get, plus he can roll outside and run if a safety is tied up on an assignment inside. Also, our OL has shown they can be productive run blockers. Bring on 8 in the box!