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Dont see Cal or Stanford taking in BYU no matter what.
Worst case is ISU/Kansas move to the PAC, or perhaps ISU/Kansas/OSU/Texas Tech.
Best case is 4 PAC schools move to the BIG 12. i.e. Arizona, ASU, Colorado, Utah.
Worst case is ISU/Kansas move to the PAC, or perhaps ISU/Kansas/OSU/Texas Tech.
Best case is 4 PAC schools move to the BIG 12. i.e. Arizona, ASU, Colorado, Utah.
Another possibility is that major merger of the BIG 12 and PAC 12 remnants. 22 teams though seems really unlikely.
Bet Clemson, FSU and North Carolina are getting antsy about now too.
Bet Clemson, FSU and North Carolina are getting antsy about now too.
Certain Teams from the Pac 12 and Big 12 could also decide to form their own conference. Clemson and Fsu signed their life away for the foreseeable future.
I am sure Byu would prefer the pac 12 but no guarantee it happens. Utah would be opposed as would some other Pac 12 members. Byu was rejected by the power 5 for years until the Big 12 finally said yes.
As it always seems to do, at some point ND will enter into the conversation. At some point it's going to be real tough for ND to schedule meaningful games. With conferences getting tougher and tougher, why would anyone in their right minds, want to risk a game against ND? If you're in the Big X and trying to get into a play off spot, do you still want to schedule ND as an OOC or do you look towards directional school?
Games against Notre Dame are big money makers and big Tv draws. Most aren't turning that down.
You can research it, go back in time, do whatever you need to do, I told everyone that this had a good chance of happening. What I did not anticipate was UCLA going with them.
so this alliance is now faltering. This was the Pac 12 commissioners ploy to bag the other conferences please do not rape my conference. I do believe when the dust settles, one of the conferences dies, us or them. Right now I would be all over getting Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona state.
so this alliance is now faltering. This was the Pac 12 commissioners ploy to bag the other conferences please do not rape my conference. I do believe when the dust settles, one of the conferences dies, us or them. Right now I would be all over getting Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona state.
The alliance never existed on paper it was nothing more than a gentleman's agreement and those things never last.
That is a very good point. A extremely good point. I was hoping that the big 12 would be a part of a scheduling alliance after everyone was admitted.
I wonder if the ACC had an idea about this and scrapped their conferences and did the 3 rival games a year and alternate the rest? Not gonna lie, that’s pretty cool in the conference.
As this could go south for West Virginia fast I’m trying not to laugh if the Big10 would make a statement that the alliance is still on unless anyone wants out.
The biggest problem Wvu has to worry about if Ucla and Usc leave is the leftovers of the Big 12 and Pac 12 might form an entirely new conference like what happened when the Big 8 and SWC folded in the mid 90's. I doubt the left overs of the Pac would want to join the Big 12 just like the Big 12 leftovers aren't in much of a hurry to join a watered down Pac 12. A hybrid of the 2 conferences would probably be more appealing to tv execs paying out the money then what the current left over conferences look like. Until their is a tv agreement in place tying us together anything is possible. In terms of the Acc they took a great deal of flac when they signed the GOR for the time period they did. At the moment though its holding their conference together and if GOR were easy to get out of Texas and Oklahoma would have been gone by now.
Rumors out there from major media writers that Notre Dame may be in the Big Ten mix and people like you were stating they couldn’t go anywhere either. Clemson, FSU can double their ACC payout and still pay the ACC $30 Million a year for years in a $100 million plus contract-it’s just not going to be the issue you want to pretend it is.
BIG 12 schools that are incoming have just made serious financial commitments to exit their old conference and to join the BIG 12. The BIG 12 appears to have an upper hand at the moment regarding anyone else leaving— no one could depart until after 2025 whereas the PAC schools are free and clear in 2024- no penalties, plus remaining BIG 12 schools ratings have been superior. It’s all going to be about money.
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WVU could also find itself in a stronger conference if several PAC programs moved over to the BIG 12. If the B10 doesnt add more right now then Washington, Oregon and two others would make up another nice 16 team league.
wont be surprised to see the Big Ten pluck up more PAC schools such as CU and Arizona to make a contiguous league with AAU programs, or even Stanford and Notre Dame.
wont be surprised to see the Big Ten pluck up more PAC schools such as CU and Arizona to make a contiguous league with AAU programs, or even Stanford and Notre Dame.
Nobody seems to want to say the obvious out loud...this puts WVU in a dangerous position yet again. A combination of select schools from the PAC and new Big12 would likely not include a school from a small state without a media market or even an academic reputation,
The usual anti WVU trolls don't want to say the obvious out loud. If the PAC breaks up, it puts WVU in a much better position going forward. Rumors out tonight have Washington and Oregon also applying to the Big Ten.
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North Carolina isn't getting antsy. They can go to the BIG or the SEC any time they want.
The other two? Yea.
"I doubt the left overs of the Pac would want to join the Big 12..."
The left overs of the Pac aren't going to have a lot of options.
They're in no position to be choosy.
You must have reading comprehension issues there Mitch. I'll say it again for you in different words. Select schools getting together...that would hardly include an outlier in the Appalachian Mountains. Figure bigger markets from new Big 12 such as TCU , Houston, Oklahoma State, etc . Top six or eight with remaining ten or eight if ten left with PAC. Think footprint. WVU offers nothing.
BIG12 suggested as landing spot for Arizona.
This is why ACC will not discuss any “look in” or “look back” in the contract. ESPN’s baby is sliding down the bench…..
Colorado would love to come back. Nebraska??? I doubt in now. AZ schools should be easy picks.
Clemson, FSU, UNC, and UVA will say bye bye to ACC. Portions of Big 12 will go PAC and the other portion will be ACC. Give up the Ghost Big 12.
Allen once again lying about me? Big Surprise. I never swore anything, let alone that USC and UCLA would never go to the Big Ten--in fact I've discussed just that while trolls like Allen attacked me for discussing anything realignment. Looks as though trolling is all he/she/it has.
Yeah. You think it’s a hand you’re shaking, only to suddenly realize it’s something altogether different.
How are Clemson or FSU any more or less antsy--they are the two biggest football brands for the ACC, and even if the BIg Ten won't accept them for lack of AAU, the SEC definitely would--or they think so anyways.
Notre dame has been rumored to be joining a conference for years and their still independent. If Fsu and Clemson could leave the acc they would have already left. If the Gor is to steep for Texas and Oklahoma with 3 years remaining it would definitely be to steep for Fsu and Clemson with 14 years remaining. There is nothing stopping members from the Big 12 forming a new conference with left over Pac 12 teams. If Washington and Oregon left for the Big 10 and the remaining Pac 12 and Big 12 teams decided to form a conference the teams that are planning to join are probably sol.
I wouldn't say they would love to come back. Nebraska isn't leaving the big 10 .