Brenden Jaimes
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Not surprising. It is on full display each and every Saturday that they walk on to the field.
Culture problems still exist.
Have had them for 3 years under Frost. Very obvious on the offensive side of the ball. Defense doesn't seem to have similar issues.
Who's been here on that side of the ball all 3 of those years?
Gebbia
Spielman
Space Cowboy
Greg Bell
McCaffrey
Robinson
Have had them for 3 years under Frost. Very obvious on the offensive side of the ball. Defense doesn't seem to have similar issues.
Who's been here on that side of the ball all 3 of those years?
Spielman
Space Cowboy
Greg Bell
McCaffrey
Robinson
I think you've underscored the problem. Underclassmen who have been told they are wonderful. They come in and Frost let's them have their way and the get pissed and leave when they don't get it. You know MR's kids weren't all bad people and none leaders. Just saying.
I don't think he was as derogatory as the press is making his statements out to be.. he basically said last season didn't turn out the way they all wanted it to, even though he and some older guys tried.
The Spun: You mentioned culture problems. Is that something still lingering, or do you feel like Nebraska turned the corner this past season?
BJ: In my opinion, we didn’t turn any corners really. It was another frustrating season with things not clicking, and a lot of that started in the offseason. Older guys like me, Adrian and Matt tried to get those things right, but it just never clicked for some of those guys. As frustrating as it was, we had to go out there and continue practicing on Monday and get ready for a game each week. We did the best we could with the guys we had, but it just wasn’t enough
BJ: In my opinion, we didn’t turn any corners really. It was another frustrating season with things not clicking, and a lot of that started in the offseason. Older guys like me, Adrian and Matt tried to get those things right, but it just never clicked for some of those guys. As frustrating as it was, we had to go out there and continue practicing on Monday and get ready for a game each week. We did the best we could with the guys we had, but it just wasn’t enough
That’s not a shot, just saying what we already know. The offensive side has issues and it shows on Saturdays. And I don’t think anyone on this board thinks we’ve turned the corner on offense after 3 years.
Offense has had a ton of turnover and new faces...not surprised by the comment. Jaimes also bailed on his teammates the last game as if he was a top 5 pick in the draft.
I don't have a problem with it. He's probably right. This is a rebuild and Frost has never done that before. The situation he walked into at UCF is different from Nebraska. He's definitely learning on the job. I hope he's taking the right courses.
I think you're getting close.
Captains on offense last year:
Martinez
Warner
Farniok
Really? Matt the guy that usually got at least a penalty a game they guy that missed blocked and assignments, maybe BJ should take some responsibility himself instead of claiming him Matt and Adrian tried imo that’s not being a very good leader
I think you could say Frost has created the culture. When he made the decision to alienate the upperclassman and talk up his shiny new toys it was the start of the problem. When your shiny new toys come with lots of headaches , but you will continue to do everything to bend over for them and the rules it causes problems. As soon as he starts looking at the team as a whole instead of just his offense things might turn around.
I think you could say Frost has created the culture. When he made the decision to alienate the upperclassman and talk up his shiny new toys it was the start of the problem. When your shiny new toys come with lots of headaches , but you will continue to do everything to bend over for them and the rules it causes problems. As soon as he starts looking at the team as a whole instead of just his offense things might turn around.
The constant revolving door hasn’t helped on offense. Year one we had experienced guys on the offensive side of the ball and they showed leadership in the second half of the season. Since then we haven’t had enough upper classmen to set the standard. Instead we’ve made walk-ons and guys who are probably great dudes but not very good at football be captains. AMart will have to be the vocal guy this year. He’s got the experience to do it, no excuses.
Don’t take the bait. My life has been better the last few days just watching his feeble attempts to get a rise out of posters. Makes me chuckle.
Just for the record, we had the best offensive showing of the 2020 season when we replaced Jaimes with a true freshman.
As an old OL coach, I watched him closely for the past 4 years. He's a good player, but he's not at the level athletically of the OLs that Frost has brought in (Corcoran, Piper, Jurgens, Banks, Benhart). These 5 may be our starters in 2021 and honestly, there isn't a one of them who isn't a significant upgrade over what we had in 2018 (Jaimes, Foster, Farmer, Wilson, Farinok,).
We're obviously no where near having a scoring explosion, but if we can have a season where we're positive for turnovers, we can win 9-10 next year. Our opponents scored 29.38 ppg on 386.5 TYPG. We scored 23.13 ppg on 391.5 TYPG. If we could have just scored at the same proportion of yards to points as our opponents, we likely could have won Northwestern, Iowa, and Minnesota. We fumbled 22 times and lost 9 while our opponents fumbled 13 times and lost 2 (and it's not just the fumbles we lost, but also the 22 offensive plays that went bust because of fumbles). We also lost interceptions 9-5. So the total turnovers was a minus 11, in 8 games. That's minus 1.38 per game, imagine if it was a positive 1.38, essentially adding 2.75 margin to our side. It's the difference between winning and losing. Tack on 15 more penalty yards per game than our opponents and you can see why we ended up like we did.
Turnovers and penalties don't tell the whole story, but they probably were the difference in being 3-5 rather than 5-3 or 6-2. These are thing that COACHING can solve. The overall talent level of the team is increasing, if we can get a handle on turnovers and penalties, we can be a winner, especially with all of the experience coming back on defense.
For reference - in 1995 we won interceptions 20-6 (with 60% of the attempt of our opponents) and lost fumbles 9-8 (with twice as many running plays as our opponents). Plus 13.
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You're right about that. I think we put the best line out there that we could last 3 years, but the younger players are replacing some guys that are truly borderline D1 talent. as they come of age, we'll see better results. Great football teams live and die by the strength of their lines.
He never said it was bad he said “ we haven’t quite turned the corner yet.was frustrating season with things not clicking “
Learn how to comprehend, you have a hard time with comprehension I know..
Frost always says we are turning a corner. He is saying we didn’t. I thought to be a fan of Frost as a coach you need to get on twitter and say how much you love playing for him?
It’s hard to interpret what he’s saying. I think he could easily be talking about only a few guys which isn’t necessarily some grand indictment, but just matter of fact. When you’re losing every year, the frustration and criticism and in-fighting builds.
He could be talking just about WR’s where they struggled to get anyone on the field who was ready to play. It could be calling out younger guys for not working as hard as the vets (talent aside, simply effort-wise).
It could be more generic laying blame on everyone including Adrian/Matt despite them “trying.”
In the end, it is Frost’s team.
2021 is an important year to turn things around.
He could be talking just about WR’s where they struggled to get anyone on the field who was ready to play. It could be calling out younger guys for not working as hard as the vets (talent aside, simply effort-wise).
It could be more generic laying blame on everyone including Adrian/Matt despite them “trying.”
In the end, it is Frost’s team.
2021 is an important year to turn things around.
Imagine thinking we had an offense last year when Farniok and Warner are your Captains...if Jaimes claims he was a "leader" it shouldn't have been hard to be a Captain in 2020
For years now, we've had upperclassmen who really don't know what it is to win consistently. That may be TOs greatest legacy. There was a standard that was set in stone. We let it slip away. Now, to a large extent, it's every man for himself.
I can. He said they didn’t turn a corner. Culture isn’t good.
pretty much sums it up.Keep your head in the sand
I think there is some truth to this.. when Scott turned over the roster, there were not a lot of older guys to show the younger guys how things are done. This has been a problem for the development of a lot of guys that are now upperclassmen. In time, this would resolve itself, but who knows if Scott will be around that long. Can't keep the excuses going much longer.I think you could say Frost has created the culture. When he made the decision to alienate the upperclassman and talk up his shiny new toys it was the start of the problem. When your shiny new toys come with lots of headaches , but you will continue to do everything to bend over for them and the rules it causes problems. As soon as he starts looking at the team as a whole instead of just his offense things might turn around.
Great post. God forbid somebody uses numbers to make his case. College football is so much about "Mo" and it is hard to keep momentum with drive-killing penalties and turnovers. Whether that gets fixed remains to be seen.
When a coach takes over a struggling program it is up to the coach and his staff to show EVERYONE how it is done. I truly believe Jaimes and Adrian and a few others bought it. Add Kade to the list. But then I think he means guys like Fleming, Delancy, Gray, Francois, and others who didn’t transfer as guys that aren’t wanting to put the work in. So these guys who Frost says are going to change the program don’t really want to work as a contributing player it gets hard and you say things in public about the culture.
Frost Derangement Syndrome: A recently discovered mental disorder that causes sufferers to constantly pin blame on Nebraska's football coach for any and all perceived or implied problems with Nebraska football. Experts feel that this syndrome may lead to permanent mental and social disability leading to an inability to interact with other human beings in a logical and civil manner. Further study of the affected individuals and their depression will hopefully lead to effective treatments other than potent psychoactive drugs or shock treatments.
Frost derangement syndrome is actually defending frost no matter what he does.
So you wanted some of the losers that quit showing the younger guys "how it's done"? Veteran leadership was a problem but it isn't Frost's fault that the ice cream with sprinkles guys quit. There was an extreme lack of talent in some of those guys that stayed and the ones who left haven't done much. We will have veteran leaders going forward and many of them will likely be local guys. That matters.