Buh?

MADHAT1

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If Ash took over, hope it stays that way.
Let McNulty take all of the O responsibility in practice and gameday.
Buh teach the D how Ash wants them to play during practice while Ash calls the D gametime.

I don't care what Buh makes doing that, as long as what he does helps Rutgers win.
 

RUbacker

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So I have seen several mentions that Ash took over calling the D at some point in the 2nd quarter? Is this verified? And if so what does it mean for Buh going forward?
Wasn’t verified. Some forum jackass ( I won’t mention his name ) said he ran over and ripped the clipboard out of his hands lol. Can’t make this stuff up!
 

BOGDANOVICH

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I don't know who was calling the plays but it seemed the UMass scheme of playing fast and speeding up the tempo caught the defense off guard - leading to at least 1 TO because we were trying to substitute.

If only that secret information had leaked out somewhere....
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/ru-running-more-spread-o.171318/#post-3964360
How could it have caught the defense off guard when everybody and his brother knew that UMass and Bell would run an uptempo offense?
 
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CrazyfoRU

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OK here's what my group saw. A little background, we sit 15 rows behind the defensive sitting area so we're close and have a great view just over the players. We are a group of 6 who all played football some in college, one at Rutgers and some are now coaches. Are we experts on the game, no. Do we have a lot of knowledge between us I'd like to think so. Pregame we identify each coach. Once a play is complete all eyes go to the coaching staff to see interaction. We don't chit chat about world politics between plays or who's going to get little Johnny dip n dots. Rather discuss football.

After the third TD. A heated exchange happened between Ash and Buh. Myself and another in the group saw this.(we thought you guys would see it on TV and thought there would be a big discussion here but there wasn't) I don't know anything about a play card. Next defensive series, now I didn't see this but others in our group did. When the D was looking to the sideline at Buh for the call he pointed to Ash who proceeded to make the call. At this point our D became much more aggressive. After this the D continued to look at Ash for the call. Buh was still in communication with upstairs but at this point was not motioning toward the D any longer. So if he was yelling to them you would have seen the body language. You could see it from Ash. There's no other way to communicate to them as we don't have a guy miked up and he's not doing it through telepathy. Ash commanded every defensive huddle at this point. Buh took a back seat during these. So take this information how you want, it's just what we observed. All observations led us to believe Ash had taken control of the D.

Interesting observations. On TV I was able to notice that when the D huddled on the field during timeouts Ash was out there and seemed to be doing most of the talking.
 

jakeknight

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Generally every head coach was ether an offensive or defensive coordinator seems reasonable to spend time on whatever side of the ball you have your background. Ash is going to get the heat he might as well do it the way he wants to do it.
 

CrazyfoRU

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The reason he hired a guy like Buh was that if he wanted to take over control of the defense, Buh doesn't have enough gravitas in the business to stand in his way. Buh just needs to be his practice coach.
 

rucoe89

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The upside in all of this is that Ash fully understands his situation now. He has to start delivering on a positive trajectory. It may not translate to wins but respectability in every game is a must, if not for his job here, but for his future.
 

RUDead

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Little Johnny is now old enough to get his own dip n dots. His dad chucks him a $10 spot and told go yourself, God gave you two good arms and legs.

Like I said these are just observations we made as we have a bird's eye view of this and many don't or don't look for it. We see it as the game within the game. We came to a conclusion, others can draw their own conclusions from the information I provided. Hell they can say maybe Buh was pointing to the water boy as he was thirsty and not Ash. But it didn't seem that way to us.

Another observation was the interaction between Ash and Okruch. Right before a third down play on D Ash went over and talked to Okruch. He must have wanted to set up for a potential fake punt. The punt return team started sending out the wrong personnel and was late getting on the field. This is the punt where we lined 9 off the ball. Ash went over and really laid into him. Ash was pretty pissed off this game. One thing is he kind of let's McNulty do his thing. But special teams and D. He was all over top of those.


Good. Pissed off Ash is better coach than quiet Ash.
 

willisneverrana43

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So I decided to bring my vast experience with Tivo into this discussion. Pausing, slo-mo, all that stuff, except watching the sidelines instead of the players.

From the start, Ash was actively involved with the defense. He had the big-*** card. Again, from the start, so there was never any need to supposedly rip it away from Buh. He already had it. It was attached to his hip and often in his hand. Buh, also from the get-go, had a smaller set of notes, ones that he could place in his back pocket. That was it. Ash moved up and down the sidelines, at times waiving and yelling to the D while they were lining up, card in hand. Mind you--this is the very first series. Buh was also roaming the sidelines, much less animated, but engaged with the D. On what I believe was the first timeout--again, during the first series--the defense came to the sidelines and Ash walked into the middle of the huddle, Buh right behind him, and began talking.

This was the same throughout the first 3 series--and the 4th.

Offense was different. Anytime you saw the sidelines, it was McNulty with the card, waiving, talking, yelling.

In short, my vast Tivo expertise tells me that Ash was intimately involved with the defense from the very start and nothing changed after three series.
 
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