Buh's Replacement
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Don't think he's doing much on this until after spring practice, I'm sure he has some candidates in mind.
Chuck Smith did a damn good job coaching up the Lbers when he was here under RB...don't know about the recruiting angle
Yes he did,wouldn't mind seeing him return,recruiting might be a question
HS head coach has coached special teams. Not sure if he's good at it but he's coached it.
Not sure if Stoops actually said it or if others were speculating but the thought that's been mentioned is Stoops wants a coach with LB/STs experience as well as Georgia recruiting prowess. Wonder if he'll now target Georgia HSs with Clinkscales?
You make the statement but give no reason? What is it? Go back and look at the list of guys who excelled under his tutelage and they are numerous. Like we said, we don't know about his recruiting or ST skills , but he turned out some damn good lbers and was one himself so he knows the position.
Have you bothered to look at the talent level of the LBs UK recruited during his time here------and more important, have you looked at the number that turned out very well, several of them playing in the NFL.
Seems like UK could only recruit one good LB per year this century during his reign, here is the list per year. 2003 5.2 Johnny Williams, 2004 5.5 Woodyard, 2005 5.2 Sam Maxwell, 2006 5.9 M Johnson, 2007 5.1 R Sneed, 2008 5.3 Tre, 2009 5.5 Ridge Wilson who self destructed, 2010 5.6 Jabari Johnson and 5.6 A Williamson, the only year we had two decent commits.
Most of those LBs turned out very well, most were low two stars, and several had NFL careers. There was NOT a lot of talent being recruited during Brooks years, and no wonder with the "recruiting center" and the recruiting budget less than for four Basketball players. Tee (and Joker) was the only one that did very well------and, as Tee said, he lied to recruits about our facilities.
And in fact Smith was not NEARLY as bad a recruiter as most of Brooks staff.
Isn't it kind of ironic that our best player development over the past 10 years position wise is supposed to be a weak point this year (in terms of youth)?
Good catch, missed him because he was listed as a DE as a commit------so Smith had to teach him more. I shouldn't have missed him, a favorite and another big success, was with the Broncos for a while, and only a 5.3 commit.
This is a VERY CRITICAL hire! I hope that he will pick someone who has got a strong Georgia connection in recruiting! (Georgia produces top LB's) who has a strong resume! There is absolutely no reason to not step up and pay this person accordingly! We must pay for quality! We have finally started, so we keep it up and hope for results! The next 2 years are the most critical time in UK football history! There are no more excuses! The time is NOW!
It isn't going to be Chuck Smith. It isn't going to be Mark Nelson. Stoops isn't dredging up the past here. He is turning the page. That much is clear. Taking Stoops at his word, he will wait until after spring practice is over, then look for a new linebacker coach who can also handle special teams. Pevato and Gran were exceptions, but Stoops has tended to hire young coaches. Young coaches are a key part of his recruiting push. The profile of a coach who will be available in May would be at the age extremes, very young or old. Maybe an out of work NFL type, or maybe a young stretch from a secondary college conference. You aren't going to get an established guy in his prime in May unless you overpay, which is what Coach Durkin did to get Coach Buh. This won't be an overpay hire unless Stoops has 1 specific guy in mind to chase, like Durkin chased Buh.
Derek Abney helped that a lot! !!!
Shouldn't the only criteria be the best man for the job?
And eliminating family members with no experience.
Board tradition.
Who should be our new assistant coach? The only one who's name I know. (Usually a former coach)
Who should be our new assistant coach? The only one who's name I know. (Usually a former coach)
Of course not. It will be the best AVAILABLE man for the job, as defined by Coach Stoops. May is just about the worst time of the year to hire an assistant football coach. And who said Stoops won't hire the best available coach? Don't understand what you mean about family members.
Wouldn't mind a NFL guy. Strong lber coach with some special teams experience. ST is more about discipline than X and o.
Oh darn, and I was hoping Saban was available.
City Colleges are about the only ones that can hire their unqualified relatives.
Steve Ortmayer is one of the best football minds in the land. Joker screwed up by letting him go when Rich left him a cupboard full of talented assistants. Not only is he a great ST coach, he's probably one of the 3-5 best talent evaluators in football regardless of what level.
Pretty sure he still lives in Lex. We have seen and talked to he and his wife on several occasions at games and practices.
Abney did help but look at the numbers ...
Brooks and Co. had Abney his Sr. year and his production nearly went to zilch that year after Nelson left.
Don't forget what Nelson did with the punter while here. Not a shabby job there either.
Liked Ort, but after the ST meltdown vs. Vandy I'm not sure that's what we need...
He is there, you probably missed it because I called him Tre, and that is awfully short for such a big player.
Back at that time the listing of recruiting rankings for players was much lower than today and camps were in their infancy.
Apples and oranges on rankings compared to today.
Even still if a kid doesn't go to camps today he ls an under the radar talent who has not been evaluated.
Apples and oranges on rankings compared to today.
Even still if a kid doesn't go to camps today he ls an under the radar talent who has not been evaluated.
Ortmayer is 70. For several reasons including age, not a replacement candidate for Buh. BTW, Chuck Smith is 58. I know someone would ask.