Buie really struggling tonight
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Nance’s length and agility can be fun to watch. He is such a mismatch nightmare if he figures it out
So? They’re both freshmen. We should expect ebbs and flows with their performances as they get used to the B1G grind.
Unless you can pound the ball inside, you got no chance against a solid bigvten hoops team .We are too young this year. Wait till next year boys
There were times when the length of Nance and Beran were really giving Wisconsin trouble. Hopefully we'll see more of that in the coming years.
The lineup of Spencer-Turner-Kopp-Beran-Nance was +16 last night in a game we lost by 15 points. They played for just under 10 minutes, and probably would've played more if not for Spencer and Beran's foul trouble (1st and 2nd half respectively).
Beran and Nance played together in two other lineups last night, where they were outscored 9-0. Spencer-Buie-Kopp-Beran-Nance was 0-6 in 2 minutes while Spencer-Buie-Turner-Beran-Nance was 0-3 in 1 minute.
Buie was a staggering -27 last night in 23 minutes.
For some reason a few seasons back I decided I wanted to see how we looked at a lineup level so I started keeping track on a spreadsheet using the PBP data after games. It's a way to kill some time at work, I guess.
That's really cool! I'm curious, from your observations what's our ideal lineup from a plus/minus perspective? Any players have surprising numbers?
Beran and Nance would make a really nice combo if 1) they get much stronger at the rim and 2) they can both shoot 35%-40% from 3 at a moderate to high volume. Beran is actually shooting 40% this year but with just 45 attempts. We get those guys going against bigger, slower players and/or smaller guys in the post, and we may really have something next year. Plus teams wouldn't be able to key in on Kopp the same way.
I'm also hoping Berry will bring his scoring touch with him from high school next year. He has a nice 3 point shot and seems to be able to create off the dribble. Plus add 7-1 Nicholson to the mix (if he doesn't redshirt) and we can have some huge lineup combinations.
It's hard to suss out an ideal lineup since Collins plays a lot of combinations (72 lineups in 19 games), with an average of 14 different lineups per game and only 7 lineups have even played 5% or more of available minutes with the max being 11.3%.
That being said, our best lineup that has played at least 25 possessions together (which covers about 75% of all combinations) is Spencer-Buie-Kopp-Nance-Young, which is +21 in 64 offensive/59 defensive possessions over 38 minutes (5%). It is also our most efficient offensive lineup, scoring 1.31 points per possession.
2nd best would be Spencer-Turner-Kopp-Beran-Nance, though that is almost entirely due to last night's game. +17 in conference play but 16 of that was last night.
Buie-Turner-Kopp-Nance-Young is also good, at +8 over 25:37, as is Spencer-Buie-Turner-Nance-Young, at +10 in 18 minutes.
If there's a theme here from my data, it's that Nance is probably our most important player, and the fact that he's only played in 60% of minutes during the conference season in part due to his struggles mid-year has been a big factor in the number of games we've lost. Nance is -66 in conference play, and based on his minutes he should be -118, so that's +52 over expectation, which is by far the best on the team.
For the conference season, -16 in 56 minutes. There was really only one game where that lineup dominated, and it was the home game against MD where it was +11 in only 5 minutes. Then Beran got hurt before the next game against OSU and wasn't in the starting lineup, but Collins went back to it again against MSU who eviscerated it 16-2 in 6:32. It lasted one more game before the switch to the current starting lineup.
ESPN misled me following my late night Google search. How do I sue them, judge?
You mean the lineup that now has close to an average of 1.4 years of B1G play amongst them?
Color me skeptical. Bring on the Boo-Berry combo next year and then PBJ / Christie the year after. The future’s so bright that I’ll have to gouge my eyes out.
I wish, but I'm just a regular lawyer. Someone on this board is a federal judge though! I figured it out after going to their chambers for a warrant and seeing a ton of NU gear (which you never see at Dirksen) and I straight up asked his screen name, which he obliged. We are a small but mighty fan base.
Purplejustice Is a big-time judge and swings a mighty gavel
PS there is another poster on the board whose name is not quite as familiar to folks because he does not post terribly often, But I am fairly sure that his wife is a judge. Because I am not absolutely positive, I will not mention his name. willycat and ubercat would know for sure.Both of them have been to several Purple Parties And met a whole bunch of folks from the board.
There is, in fact, another poster friend of mine who I think you're referring to. His wife is not a judge, though. He IS (was) a federal judge. Currently retired from the bench. Not sure of his screen name. Hope that clears up everything.
Cleared up? Nope, more confused. Don’t know if you’re talking about the same guy because I thought his wife was a judge. Next time I see you you can straighten me out
PS I gave you a hint, the dude to whom I referred is an old and good friend of willycat.
You can say that again! In fact, you can say it over and over until everyone gets the hint
PPS Easier hint, A whole bunch of us had dinner together in Nashville the night before the bowl game, including you I think
So he is a judge and not her? So once again I made a mistake by listening to Coral Springs, who says that his wife is a judge.