Buying A Handgun

[KyCatFan_rivals45723]

I've been wanting to get me a handgun. I'm not worried about anything fancy. As long as it shoots all the time and shoots straight I am good. I just want something for home defense and maybe a little target shooting.

I wouldn't mind getting one of the Hi Point 9mm handguns. They tend to be hated in reviews because of their weight and their look, but all the videos I have seen say they shoot reliably as long as you don't get a bad mag. Plus they come with a lifetime warranty. I figure spending under $200 for your first handgun that will pretty much only be used for emergencies is a great deal.

As of now, I'm not a gun collector and not really worried about buying something expensive. Would a .22 handgun be worth buying? I know they don't have the stopping power of larger caliber guns, but they are easier to shoot and you can put multiple shots in a small area with little recoil. Plus the ammo is the cheapest to fire and it won't make you deaf shooting in a room.

So what are your opinions on this subject?

 

[-LEK-]

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Get a ruger...competitive price and durable

 

[WildcatFan1982]

 

[Free_Salato_Blue]

I've been wanting to get me a handgun. I'm not worried about anything fancy. As long as it shoots all the time and shoots straight I am good. I just want something for home defense and maybe a little target shooting.

I wouldn't mind getting one of the Hi Point 9mm handguns. They tend to be hated in reviews because of their weight and their look, but all the videos I have seen say they shoot reliably as long as you don't get a bad mag. Plus they come with a lifetime warranty. I figure spending under $200 for your first handgun that will pretty much only be used for emergencies is a great deal.

As of now, I'm not a gun collector and not really worried about buying something expensive. Would a .22 handgun be worth buying? I know they don't have the stopping power of larger caliber guns, but they are easier to shoot and you can put multiple shots in a small area with little recoil. Plus the ammo is the cheapest to fire and it won't make you deaf shooting in a room.

So what are your opinions on this subject?

Hi-Points are great for when the magazine is empty you can pistol whip the crap out of someone.
Depends on how much you want to spend and if you want to conceal it, just plink around, etc.

$200 price point is slim picking.
Picked up a SCCY when Rural King had them for sale during the holidays for $199.99
Made in USA, life time warranty.

Might find military surplus Makarov's in that range.
Sometimes you can get a good deal at a local auction.

 

[slick rick.ksr]

For home defense get a tactical shotgun in a 12 gauge with 00 buckshot
The sound of a shell being jacked when you pump is intimidating and it's easier for someone to use than a handgun. A Mossberg is reliable and not that expensive. A $200 handgun is not much of a gun, especially if your life depended on it. A .22 is not an appropriate caliber for self defense. The minimum would be a .380. That's my carry gun because of its size. If someone tries to break into my home they'll contend with the twelve gauge. With 00 buck this is equivalent to nine .32 caliber rounds which will stop anyone.

 

[PhattyJ4UK_rivals309166]

Anbody telling you to get this or get that isnt that into guns

Go to the range...shoot some different ones(a big shop should let you do this for free, minus ammo, if told you are looking to purchase...see which feels best and is most comfortable... buy that one

 

[dgtatu01]

For home defense get a tactical shotgun in a 12 gauge with 00 buckshot
The sound of a shell being jacked when you pump is intimidating and it's easier for someone to use than a handgun. A Mossberg is reliable and not that expensive. A $200 handgun is not much of a gun, especially if your life depended on it. A .22 is not an appropriate caliber for self defense. The minimum would be a .380. That's my carry gun because of its size. If someone tries to break into my home they'll contend with the twelve gauge. With 00 buck this is equivalent to nine .32 caliber rounds which will stop anyone.

I keep a Mossberg pistol grip pump action 12 gauge shotgun for anyone that comes into my home. Most intruders will turn away at the sound of a pump.

 

[KyCatFan_rivals45723]

I'm not saying $200 would be the limit, but I don't want to spend like $500 for something that may never get shot except a little target shooting. I was just throwing that out there because of the HI Point prices I've come across. I would hope just chambering a round in whatever gun I get might be enough to scare off most people and it won't have to be shot.

 

[BlueRaider22]

For home defense get a tactical shotgun in a 12 gauge with 00 buckshot
The sound of a shell being jacked when you pump is intimidating and it's easier for someone to use than a handgun. A Mossberg is reliable and not that expensive. A $200 handgun is not much of a gun, especially if your life depended on it. A .22 is not an appropriate caliber for self defense. The minimum would be a .380. That's my carry gun because of its size. If someone tries to break into my home they'll contend with the twelve gauge. With 00 buck this is equivalent to nine .32 caliber rounds which will stop anyone.

Agreed. I'd likely go pump shotgun as well. It doesn't sound like you have the drive or $ to go to the range much. If you don't practice a fair amount with a pistol it "can" be slow and fairly inaccurate. I've seen novices at the range fumble with reloads and form.....then be slow to target. Sure, you can practice in your home with an unloaded firearm but it's not completely the same.

Plus think about a home defense situation. You're awakened in the night by a noise. You grab your weapon as quickly as possible. It's dark an you can't see well. You listen and really think there's an intruder. Now you're scared to death and shaking. So you get behind the bed and watch the door. If he comes in you are now shaking, ~4-5yds away, in the dark, and aiming at a moving target. Now, you may be able to place a nice 5 shot grouping on target at the range with range conditions but that's hardly what you have here. Trained military and police can miss at 5 yds quite a bit under stressful conditions. And this is without other distractions/obligations like dogs, family, multiple intruders, or intruders fighting back.

A shotgun can help with that. Not to mention like Stevo said, just the rack can deter people. And often a cheap Mossberg 500 will be more reliable than an ultra cheap striker-fired pistol.

Now, certainly this is not to deter you completely from a pistol altogether. Certainly having any weapon is better than none at all. Rather have a 22 than none at all. Rather have a 380 than a 22 etc. If I'm looking at a cheaper pistol, I'd think more along the lines of a revolver. You can get a good Taurus, Ruger, S&W for good prices. I would go and fire a few before I bought though. Most feel and fire differently.

 

[krazykats]

Aren't Taurus getting a bad name in the .380 dept? Seems I've heard that recently.

Just got a S&W .380 from Academy for $319 which is fair.

 

[Johns721]

Bud's and some other places around sell a Turkish made clone of the CZ compact - the SAR B6P - for around $270 or less. Very reliable, accurate, and easy to shoot, 13 round 9mm. Obviously, you want to shoot one first to make sure it suits your grip, etc. but for the price it is an excellent little gun and much better build quality and ergonomics than a Hi Point.

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2014/10/3/eaa-sar-b6p-compact/

 

[UK_ Alum_02]

Field and Stream has a Sig P290 for $299 for Black Friday.

 

[We-Todd-Did]

For home defense get a tactical shotgun in a 12 gauge with 00 buckshot
The sound of a shell being jacked when you pump is intimidating and it's easier for someone to use than a handgun.

I agree with intimidating and was reminded of one of the funniest videos of all time.

 

[theoledog]

Anbody telling you to get this or get that isnt that into guns

Go to the range...shoot some different ones(a big shop should let you do this for free, minus ammo, if told you are looking to purchase...see which feels best and is most comfortable... buy that one

I like this advice... Guns are like golf clubs i.e., it's a personal thing... That's why there are so damn many of them.
You have the gun/brand to consider - The platform -The caliber......

 

[Chuckinden]

That's the gun I keep in my car.

 

[catsfanbgky]

Yeap, own a few handguns. Bought the Ruger .380 here at Sherwood Guns for $199. Every now and again they run a special. You can buy the .380 or 9MM Ruger for $199-$219. I carry it in my pocket, perfect size.

Not a weapons expert at all (I have only fired it twice and have owned it for over a year), but mf's be crazy now days.

 

[numberonedad]

Just get a Smith and Wesson Shield 9MM. I own over 100 handguns and this is the one i carry. Its light, accurate and dependable. Hi points are JUNK, not dependable and cumbersome

 

[Nubb16]

For home defense just get a big *** shotgun like a mossberg that way you never miss. I have a 12 gauge mossberg and a 380 bersa for home protection. Bersa was cheap and so was the shotgun. Nothing fancy but I'm
Confident in them.

 

[-LEK-]

Aren't Taurus getting a bad name in the .380 dept? Seems I've heard that recently.

Just got a S&W .380 from Academy for $319 which is fair.

Thats what I read on forums and people in person. It may not be a fair assessment, but I wanted something small for Conceal Carry. Something that would be in my pocket and no one would notice. I was deciding between the Taurus and the Ruger. I have a .38 Taurus revolver, and love it. But the ruger is a great pocket gun.

I bet that S&W is pretty nice. Thought about that one too, but the $199 price point for the quality was worth it for me. And it is known in the industry as a great small gun.

 

[DSmith21]

AA-12 full auto 12 gauge shotgun. Fires 300 rounds per minute and has almost no recoil. Makes home intruders into hamburger. I highly recommend if you are moving to the south side of Chicago.

 

[krazykats]

Thats what I read on forums and people in person. It may not be a fair assessment, but I wanted something small for Conceal Carry. Something that would be in my pocket and no one would notice. I was deciding between the Taurus and the Ruger. I have a .38 Taurus revolver, and love it. But the ruger is a great pocket gun.

I bet that S&W is pretty nice. Thought about that one too, but the $199 price point for the quality was worth it for me. And it is known in the industry as a great small gun.

I forget now but I think I was told the safety on the Taurus wasn't what it should be.

Something to the line of you could shake it and it would go off.......which by default means if you are running and it's on your hip it could rattle and go off too.

I'm a smartass so I did tell my buddy he was an ultra p*$$y if he was running with a gun.

 

[mashburned]

AA-12 full auto 12 gauge shotgun. Fires 300 rounds per minute and has almost no recoil. Makes home intruders into hamburger. I highly recommend if you are moving to the south side of Chicago.

That thing sucked in call of duty.

 

[Supreme Lord Z]

The idea of loosing shotgun blasts inside your home with your family sleeping is idiotic. 00 buck right through the wall into your kids' bedrooms. You guys are nuts.

 

[jwheat]

Anyone have a good AK they are wanting to part with?

 

[Supreme Lord Z]

I defend my home with a flamethrower. I have a grenade launcher soldiered onto it. Strategic points in your home such as interior hallways and bathrooms make excellent hiding spots for claymore mines with hair trigger trip wires. You can't be too safe, nowdays.

 

[KopiKat]

I've been wanting to get me a handgun. I'm not worried about anything fancy. As long as it shoots all the time and shoots straight I am good. I just want something for home defense and maybe a little target shooting.

I wouldn't mind getting one of the Hi Point 9mm handguns. They tend to be hated in reviews because of their weight and their look, but all the videos I have seen say they shoot reliably as long as you don't get a bad mag. Plus they come with a lifetime warranty. I figure spending under $200 for your first handgun that will pretty much only be used for emergencies is a great deal.

As of now, I'm not a gun collector and not really worried about buying something expensive. Would a .22 handgun be worth buying? I know they don't have the stopping power of larger caliber guns, but they are easier to shoot and you can put multiple shots in a small area with little recoil. Plus the ammo is the cheapest to fire and it won't make you deaf shooting in a room.

So what are your opinions on this subject?

1. you will want more than one gun
2. Hi Point firearms are the most miserable pieces of junk available through the commercial firearms industry.
3. don't look back https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...s_id/18442/Kahr+Arms+CW9093+CW9+7+1+9mm+3.6\"

 

[P19978]

My personal carry as well.

 

[Pope John Wall II]

If you want home defense you can't really go wrong with a shotgun. Chances are if you ever need to use it in this situation you will be so freaked the f*** out you'll only really be able to point in the right direction and pull the trigger. Shotguns are great for making the most of those scenarios.\

Concealed carry it really depends on how big of a dude you are. I'm skinny as hell and wouldn't want to be carrying a full-sized 1911, for example.


I carry one of those because it's small enough to be completely unnoticeable and yet at .380 it's enough to stop somebody if need arises.

 

[Pope John Wall II]

Anyone have a good AK they are wanting to part with?

You might want to wait until Trump's presidency; WASR's are expected to stop being so inflated in price since there will be no fear of gungrabbing and their plant will export more to US once their military contracts slow down.

We also may get genuine Saigas again from Izhmash factory if the trade embargo on Russian arms is lifted, which may or may not happen since the NRA and other gun lobbying groups would campaign hard against it, while Trump would be for it.

 

[KyFaninNC]

Ruger 380 have any feeding issues?

 

[-LEK-]

Ruger 380 have any feeding issues?

I havent had any. One post said 10k rounds without a glitch, but who knows. I am around 500 or so and nothing, but its my pocket gun.

 

[slick rick.ksr]

I keep a Mossberg pistol grip pump action 12 gauge shotgun for anyone that comes into my home. Most intruders will turn away at the sound of a pump.

Exactly
40 years ago someone trod the door at my Grandpas
When he told them to leave and jacked a shell they took off running
Unless you are committed to practicing with a handgun it is not the weapon of choice

 

[jwheat]

You might want to wait until Trump's presidency; WASR's are expected to stop being so inflated in price since there will be no fear of gungrabbing and their plant will export more to US once their military contracts slow down.

We also may get genuine Saigas again from Izhmash factory if the trade embargo on Russian arms is lifted, which may or may not happen since the NRA and other gun lobbying groups would campaign hard against it, while Trump would be for it.

If I want d a wasr I would just waste my money on a cheap sk

 

[Pope John Wall II]

If I want d a wasr I would just waste my money on a cheap sk

WASR's are the best price:quality ratio AK there is, or at least they were when they were sub-$550. Just get a VEPR if you're too elitist for a WASR

 

[jwheat]

I had an ol boy lined up to get me a real deal from Russia with a burst fire selector switch installed. To make a long story short He went to jail for something not related to the guns so I won't be getting that.

 

[TransyCat09]

Shotgun vs rifle is really more a matter of preference than effectiveness. A shotgun is (usually) easier to operate and could potentially be easier to hit your target (the spread people think they will get at close range is usually not close to reality). A shotgun will also (usually) be: louder, heavier, produce a bigger muzzle flash - not great in darkness with sense heightened, bigger recoil potentially affecting your ability to fire a second or third shot, etc. A medium to large caliber rifle will have similar drawbacks, with the advantage being greater rate of fire. A pistol can be problematic because of the way waking up at 3AM and having your adreline pumping affects your ability to stabilize a handgun.

Honestly, a smaller pistol caliber carbine is probably the most effective home defense weapon. They have low recoil, can be fired rapidly, are lightweight, ammo is cheaper, and are accessible to women and children if necessary. People will scoff at a 10/22 (like someone in this thread), but it will do the job of defending your family against a run of the mill intruder, period. Even if the first round doesn't immeaditely kill them, most intruders aren't Rambo. If they get shot by anything they aren't going to stick around. It's also true that even if one doesn't incapacitate them, you're more likely to get multiple shots on target with a smaller caliber carbine than a handgun or shotgun (assuming novice shooter). If you're not convinced a .22 will work, something like a kel-tec sub 2000 in 9mm would be very effective for plinking and home defense.

JMO

 

[Free_Salato_Blue]

Bud's and some other places around sell a Turkish made clone of the CZ compact - the SAR B6P - for around $270 or less. Very reliable, accurate, and easy to shoot, 13 round 9mm. Obviously, you want to shoot one first to make sure it suits your grip, etc. but for the price it is an excellent little gun and much better build quality and ergonomics than a Hi Point.

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2014/10/3/eaa-sar-b6p-compact/

I've been looking at those in fullsize for a plinker or tackle box gun. I should got one when it was $229.00.

OR Canik runs in the $350 range.

 

[KyCatFan_rivals45723]

Honestly, a smaller pistol caliber carbine is probably the most effective home defense weapon. They have low recoil, can be fired rapidly, are lightweight, ammo is cheaper, and are accessible to women and children if necessary. People will scoff at a 10/22 (like someone in this thread), but it will do the job of defending your family against a run of the mill intruder, period. Even if the first round doesn't immeaditely kill them, most intruders aren't Rambo. If they get shot by anything they aren't going to stick around. It's also true that even if one doesn't incapacitate them, you're more likely to get multiple shots on target with a smaller caliber carbine than a handgun or shotgun (assuming novice shooter). If you're not convinced a .22 will work, something like a kel-tec sub 2000 in 9mm would be very effective for plinking and home defense.

JMO

How about this .22, the MK22?

Here's a 9mm carbine by Hi Point (I know some people don't like the brand).

I believe both can be had for $250-$300.

 

[TransyCat09]

Haven't fired either so wouldn't feel comfortable saying. I generally don't like hi point, but that's subjective. Did some quick reading on the MK22 and it appears there may be some reliability issues (jamming, failing to fire, etc). Again, no personal experience so take that with a 10lb bag of salt.

The Kel-Tec SUB-2000 gen2 is ~$500ish and is the top of the class in pistol caliber carbines imo.