Buyout Can Be Negotiated

CatsCats78

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Idk about Stoops, but no way Id negotiate for less. Especially knowing I wasn't getting another HC gig anytime soon. 12 mill or I'm staying.
 
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Nuke99m.

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Zero reason or motivation for Stoops to take less than the full amount.

Other than to get the heck out of dodge. If he doesn't want to deal with the crap of the fans and the media next year maybe he would take less to leave. Quality of life and all.
 

JHB4UK

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Other than to get the heck out of dodge. If he doesn't want to deal with the crap of the fans and the media next year maybe he would take less to leave. Quality of life and all.
For $4 million per/total of $12 million I think anyone can deal with any amount of negative treatment from a fanbase

zero reason why if terminated Stoops would agree to take less than what Barnhart guaranteed he would receive. zero, UK is on the hook, deal with it.
 
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StubbornPenny

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Other than to get the heck out of dodge. If he doesn't want to deal with the crap of the fans and the media next year maybe he would take less to leave. Quality of life and all.

Is getting the heck out of dodge worth giving up millions of dollars? Doubtful. Force their hand, get your whole sum, and live like a king. He has all the leverage.
 

ulismyman

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I will continue to have faith in mankind and hope he looks in mirror and says....these fans have been thru enough....i'm out and giveme 3 million and i step away
 

gamalielkid

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A realistic buyout will be about 50% and that would probably happen if it does happen at all. Why? First, $6 million is enough money to live a very, very good rest of your life on. Second, Mark Stoops, I believe is a very proud man, and I think he will not want to have to be here in the midst of all the negativity for him and his family. I don't think Stoops will or wants to throw in the towel - so he might get it turned around. However, it sure doesn't appear he has "it" when it comes to be a head coach. No disgrace in that either - not everyone is cut out to run an entire program.

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Yahtzee43

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Part of me thinks that Stoops may be trying to sabotage the season to get this whole thing started sooner rather than later. I know that sounds crazy and conspiratorial and everything, but it almost seems like the coaching job could not be worse even if they tried. Seriously.

It almost seems like he has given up.
 

JHB4UK

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A realistic buyout will be about 50% and that would probably happen if it does happen at all. Why? First, $6 million is enough money to live a very, very good rest of your life on. Second, Mark Stoops, I believe is a very proud man, and I think he will not want to have to be here in the midst of all the negativity for him and his family.
LOL

$12 million is a lot of dollar bills to stuff in your kids & wifes ears to ward off negativity. What world do you live in where anyone in any line of work would throw $6 million dollars down the toilet - for what? To get out of town & away from meanies in the fanbase? Get real, even the most fanatic Chris From Richmond type doesnt have the nuts to go up face to face & tell the coach he sucks... much less be a sub human & harass the coaches kids & wife. Worst Stoops gets is from his callin radio show, and that baby can be HEAVILY edited & screened.

never forget during the end of the Tubby era his 60 minute call in show featured 4 phone calls....all from former players.
 

gamalielkid

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LOL

$12 million is a lot of dollar bills to stuff in your kids & wifes ears to ward off negativity. What world do you live in where anyone in any line of work would throw $6 million dollars down the toilet - for what? To get out of town & away from meanies in the fanbase? Get real, even the most fanatic Chris From Richmond type doesnt have the nuts to go up face to face & tell the coach he sucks... much less be a sub human & harass the coaches kids & wife. Worst Stoops gets is from his callin radio show, and that baby can be HEAVILY edited & screened.

never forget during the end of the Tubby era his 60 minute call in show featured 4 phone calls....all from former players.

AND................. Tubby walked away!

Go Big Blue!
 

BMo643

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I've been telling my UK buddies for weeks that I can see Stoops negotiating a lower buyout to get out of Lexington earlier...here's the only issue: what can/will UK be willing to pay for the buyout? I mean if Stoops is owed $12 million right now, that amount is not going to get negotiated down to a level that UK would be willing to pay. So Stoops is here for the 2017 season. After the 2017 season he's owed $6.6...would UK be willing to pay $3-$5 million dollars to buy out his contract and then turn around and dish out another $2-$5 million hiring another coach? I dunno. Stoops would have to be so miserable that he takes far less than he's owed to just get out of town. So buyouts can be negotiated but I can't see a scenario where Stoops doesn't coach through the 2018 season unless he just flat out quits on the program.
 

gamalielkid

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I've been telling my UK buddies for weeks that I can see Stoops negotiating a lower buyout to get out of Lexington earlier...here's the only issue: what can/will UK be willing to pay for the buyout? I mean if Stoops is owed $12 million right now, that amount is not going to get negotiated down to a level that UK would be willing to pay. So Stoops is here for the 2017 season. After the 2017 season he's owed $6.6...would UK be willing to pay $3-$5 million dollars to buy out his contract and then turn around and dish out another $2-$5 million hiring another coach? I dunno. Stoops would have to be so miserable that he takes far less than he's owed to just get out of town. So buyouts can be negotiated but I can't see a scenario where Stoops doesn't coach through the 2018 season unless he just flat out quits on the program.

To me this is not as complicated as people are trying to make it. If UK wants to replace Stoops - it will happen - no matter what the $$$$$$. People who believe other wise truly don't understand the reality. No one is going to invest $200 Million and then let it all fall apart over a high buyout contract. Just check ALL of the high payout coaches contracts and see how many of them get anywhere near that amount in a settlement. Plus, as I and other have said. UK will lose at least $1 million in revenue for every home game Stoops coaches if he is perceived as a lame duck coach - then half that amount for the first of year of the next coach is also a reality.

Everyone needs to realize that money works two ways on this issue - let's make that perfectly clear. The decision to do a buyout will not be made either way only based on the money!

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Blue Decade

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Zero reason or motivation for Stoops to take less than the full amount.
Which is only 1 of the reasons why this is a ridiculous idea. And people who think this way haven't even begun to consider how this kind of thing would affect recruitment of another head coach. If I was a successful coach with marketability, a school that dumped a Stoops brother without paying him what he is owed would be the last place I would consider.
 

BigSexyCat

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Nobody is going to walk away from 12 million dollars. Nope, naughty, ain't going to happen. I think we all need to come to the realization that the football program is going to be DOA for this season and next. September 1, 2018 is nearly two years away. There's going to be a lot of bad football played between now and then. I think what fans should demand in the mean time is a separate entity to be in charge of the next football hire. Barnhart has made it clear he is incapable of attracting and assessing potential candidates.
 

gamalielkid

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Nobody is going to walk away from 12 million dollars. Nope, naughty, ain't going to happen. I think we all need to come to the realization that the football program is going to be DOA for this season and next. September 1, 2018 is nearly two years away. There's going to be a lot of bad football played between now and then. I think what fans should demand in the mean time is a separate entity to be in charge of the next football hire. Barnhart has made it clear he is incapable of attracting and assessing potential candidates.

I know it probably doesn't make a lot of difference to UK. But I can tell you I will walk away from UK football if they don't make a move to change coaches if the season continues like it has started. The fans rose up 4 years ago - this early in the season Joker had a lot more support on these boards than Stoops does right now too!

Go Big Blue!
 

Blue Decade

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Nobody is going to walk away from 12 million dollars. Nope, naughty, ain't going to happen. I think we all need to come to the realization that the football program is going to be DOA for this season and next. September 1, 2018 is nearly two years away. There's going to be a lot of bad football played between now and then. I think what fans should demand in the mean time is a separate entity to be in charge of the next football hire. Barnhart has made it clear he is incapable of attracting and assessing potential candidates.
This program is not necessarily DOA in 2017. In multiple threads, I have already explained how the return of 19 incumbent starters can result in improvements in our 2016 team's weaknesses. But we have so many posters who freak out and call for mass firings after every loss that it will be hard for our dabs to think rationally about strengths and limitations of our 2017 roster while still wallowing in anger over losing on the road to Florida.
 

catsall

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This program is not necessarily DOA in 2017. In multiple threads, I have already explained how the return of 19 incumbent starters can result in improvements in our 2016 team's weaknesses. But we have so many posters who freak out and call for mass firings after every loss that it will be hard for our dabs to think rationally about strengths and limitations of our 2017 roster while still wallowing in anger over losing on the road to Florida.

This staff has not shown anything in the years they have been here. Bury your head in the sand and we will get what we deserve.