Cal claims moral superiority? Really? Really?

Devilinside

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First thing I read this morning was about Cal criticizing what he says is K's recruiting pitch, and claiming he would never stoop to using it. Well, I guess Cal is known for his honesty and his commitment to academics. Far from Cal to engage in hypocrisy or lying to players. I need to go gargle some Listerine.
 

DukeDenver

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Problem here is Calipari is interpreting a recruit's paraphrasing of K. No doubt he is telling the truth, but the context and message isn't clear. I think it's a good sign that K threatens Cal enough to warrant such a response. Meanwhile, K chuckles at stories like this and keeps winning.
 

chov1125

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Cal is the definition of a used car salesman. If he really stood by his philosophy he wouldn't feel the need to rip Coach K's. To me, it just makes Cal look insecure. It has been no secret that Cal tells recruits exactly what they want to hear about getting them to the NBA as quick as possible. It is the exact reason why players choose UK so often. It is also no secret that K promises recruits more than basketball, preparation for life beyond the bouncing ball. Is it a coincidence that the rumors have been that Bolden likes UK but mom likes Duke, no not really when you think about it. Take a look at Marshall's banquet speech and you will see exactly what I mean. As a person about to enter my 30's I have my opinions as to what pitch I would choose or what pitch I would want my kids to choose, but it is nothing more than an opinion. It is not as if K had anything to do with the specific recruit disclosing details about each pitch. Cal comes off as rattled to me, but that is of no surprise.
 

gottagonow

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This makes me lose what little if any respect I had for Cal. Cal is saying come to UK and I'll get you to the NBA and you will have all the rewards of fame and fortune that comes from the NBA. He is saying the exact same thing he accusing K of saying, only wording it differently. The kid hears that the rewards of the NBA will make you set for life. Also it seems to me that attending Duke would have much more impact on life that attending UK.
 

HuffyJB

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Cal is very insecure. And Show is right, K could not care any less. He has dealt with many actual worthy adversaries over the course of his career, like Dean Smith and Jim Calhoun, he is not losing sleep over Cal.
 
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skysdad

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This is vintage Calapari and proof he will never have Coach K's integrity or class. The crazy thing about it UK fans the same way about Cal we all do until he took the UK job. They spin it and spin it don't they. Never have been able to figure that out. OFC
 

Willcampbell

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If this is really a pitch for Bolden, he shouldn't have bothered. Everyone knows Bolden doesn't want to have anything to do with the state of NC, because he wants to use the women's bathroom.
OFC
 
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gottagonow

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This is vintage Calapari and proof he will never have Coach K's integrity or class. The crazy thing about it UK fans the same way about Cal we all do until he took the UK job. They spin it and spin it don't they. Never have been able to figure that out. OFC
Yep, it was for the UK fans that Cal is a dirty POS and when they heard he was the new UK coach he is Mr. Wonderful.
 
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skysdad

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Yep, it was for the UK fans that Cal is a dirty POS and when they heard he was the new UK coach he is Mr. Wonderful.


UK nation argument on that would be if Duke hired Calapari the fan base would be just like UK's fan base in support of Cal. Negative there because Duke would never hire John Calapari. OFC
 

lkc1021

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First thing I read this morning was about Cal criticizing what he says is K's recruiting pitch, and claiming he would never stoop to using it. Well, I guess Cal is known for his honesty and his commitment to academics. Far from Cal to engage in hypocrisy or lying to players. I need to go gargle some Listerine.

There is no mention of Coach K in this article.
 

BOOGIEMAN1914

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it can be taken however you choose to see it....Cal stance is straight to league...pretty straight forward.....K stance is that duke and the experience is greater than basketball...whether you stay 1 year or 4 years, you enter a lifelong fraternity of sorts....something that cant be taken away...Cal just tried to slimey that up...lol
 
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denniden

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Recruiting is a dirty business. Cut throat even. Duke and UK are currently the top two programs on the recruiting field. Coaches will pull out all the stops to get the advantage. Nothing that has been said or done on either side is illegal. Two very different approaches though. Let Calipari be Calipari. He has always been like this. I don't think ti is insecurity at all with him, I think it is all well planned out and him trying to gain a competitive edge over his toughest recruiting competition. Coach K and Duke.
 

LongTimeDukeFan

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Not coming to Caliperi's defense, but the reporter could easily be taking an angle to purposely create some sort of conflict or tension. Wouldn't be surprised if the media is trying to make Duke / UK the big rivals.

Just a thought.
 

Willcampbell

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Not coming to Caliperi's defense, but the reporter could easily be taking an angle to purposely create some sort of conflict or tension. Wouldn't be surprised if the media is trying to make Duke / UK the big rivals.

Just a thought.
Yeah. I think the whole affair is a non-story. But the media loves non-stories. That's what they do,
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wall2rondo

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Not coming to Caliperi's defense, but the reporter could easily be taking an angle to purposely create some sort of conflict or tension. Wouldn't be surprised if the media is trying to make Duke / UK the big rivals.

Just a thought.
Exactly !!!!! Who else is talking college basketball this time of year with any headlines. Calipari and K are recruiting top classes year in and year out. This is why they are who they are.

Media and assistant coaches cause 90% of this stuff
 

jnastasi

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Just Cal being Cal. The national attention momentarily shifted away from him so he's just trying to get back in the spotlight. I actually laughed when I read the article. Capel on the other hand had a very eloquent response.

K - 5
Cal - 1
...enough said
 
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dadecodevil

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Cal wouldnt "stoop" to promising that because he cant, and the proof is in the pudding. K could not sell that on a recruit if he couldnt show them all of the sucess stories! Cal needs to start winning championships before he can even mention K by name!
 

LongTimeDukeFan

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This seems to be an issue of "effect" and "side effect".

Krzyzewski -- I am building a championship team -- you can be a part of it -- get great coaching and be coachable -- go to a great school -- be seen by a lot of people -- have a good shot at NBA.
Calipari -- I know you want to go to the NBA -- I want that for you -- come here -- get great coaching -- be seen by a lot of people -- might win a NCAA championship as well.

That is an over-the-top dramatization, but that is how I view it.

Again -- I think the media is going to work hard to make drama happen between Duke and UK, that is until UNC gets back to where it use to be.

IMHO

LTDF
 
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OldasdirtDevil

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K is head and shoulders above Cal.



OFC
 

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ODD, is there anyway you could put together a gif of the Chapelle show skit about Rick James, when he asks what the 5 fingers say to the face, and have coach K slap Cal with the 5 championship rings on his finger?
 

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Meh. It's gamesmanship, and Cal is poking the GOAT. No biggie, and we all know that you take certain things out of context and they sound way, way different. I'm not talking about what Cal said, either; I mean the stuff he was criticizing in the original quotes. Of course someone's former college coach isn't playing the role of his daily mentor years down the road, and being set for life doesn't mean you never have to work another day ever again. And on the other side, about Cal's pitch, talking about getting a guy to the NBA first and foremost and bluntly is direct and honest, but out of context it can be twisted to mean you don't care about grades or team-building, etc.

K and Cal have proven themselves in pretty much every way. We know this about K, and have for some time. Cal's kids apply themselves academically while at UK and become good citizens. They have different approaches and each has its merits. We understandably prefer K by a long shot, and have a far better, more objective case for his being the GOAT. UK fans will understandably defend Cal, and point toward consistent excellence despite so many OADs and momentum, etc, to make their case for who is the greatest right now. No biggie.
 

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See, now I would've expected Cal's recruiting pitch to revolve around some of his legendary innovations in basketball strategy, e.g., dribbling as you drive.