Cal vs. Officials

MNantz

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Yeah but also look at what everyone on espn was saying after the duke Tenn game.

Said it wasn’t even real basketball and that Tennessee got away with everything.

Same administration, just not coach K on the sidelines.

How you get the favor of those making the decisions is beyond my understanding.
You can bet you *** if Rat Face had been on the sidelines Dook would still be shooting free throws!!
 

TortElvisII

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Something I have a bit of a problem with is the ref who called Providence also called K-State.

If he had developed a problem on Friday night he was able to carry it on this Sunday. He was the one that awarded two free throws on the pass.

K-State won the game by making hard shots. Those calls didn't help though.
 

CincinnatiWildcat

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even when another official would make a call in Kentucky’s favor and ask him why he didn’t make the call.
I don't think this part of officiating gets enough attention in general but It always bugs me when the ref with the worst angle and whose assignment is certainly somewhere else on the floor makes a call. Make it simple based on position you are reffing xyz things and cannot make calls that are not xyz. Ie if you are not the ref assigned to the ball handler you can't call an on ball foul. I think this would help set up more direct accountability for each specific referee and not let them hide behind the entire crew making mistakes.
 
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Wildcats1st

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You guys are reading too much into this when it’s real simple. Cal takes his anger out in ways that are demeaning. He’s been yelling and belittling the refs since 2015. Once you do that and pass the point of no return it’s over. You can’t get it back. That’s where cal is. Wait until next year when he doesn’t get the calls with his prize class. Cal is a liability. The officials aren’t going to let him win. He will have to have the greatest team of all time talent to even put himself in that position and that isn’t happening. You don’t see successful coaches treat officials the way cal does. Sure a coach will dispute things and get heated but cal fixates and has no filter. I’m surprised he isn’t thrown out 3-4 times per year.
 
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K-State won the game by making hard shots. Those calls didn't help though.
This x100. They made crazy circus 3s, we couldn’t hot the broad side of a barn. That was the big difference.

….oh and free throws. Cal‘s devil mare care attitude about free throws bites his team in the *** once again. Turns out the 08 title game was a harbinger.
 
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You guys are reading too much into this when it’s real simple. Cal takes his anger out in ways that are demeaning. He’s been yelling and belittling the refs since 2015. Once you do that and pass the point of no return it’s over. You can’t get it back. That’s where cal is. Wait until next year when he doesn’t get the calls with his prize class. Cal is a liability. The officials aren’t going to let him win. He will have to have the greatest team of all time talent to even put himself in that position and that isn’t happening. You don’t see successful coaches treat officials the way cal does. Sure a coach will dispute things and get heated but cal fixates and has no filter. I’m surprised he isn’t thrown out 3-4 times per year.
Yeah there have been plenty on here who have said that exact thing after 2015. Even more after 2017. I don’t understand where the pro-Cal gang gets off thinking next year will be any better.
 
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notFromhere

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Drummond’s comments made it make sense. He’s not corrupt, he and Cal simply hate each other and it’s personal. As if his lack of coaching skills weren’t enough to put us in a bind, throw in the fact that he seeks out feuds with officials and literally berates them the entire game like a psycho and you have what we’ve been witnessing the past 8 years.

If a coach has a bias, it's a bias.

If an official has a bias, it's corruption.

Just the facts. Officials are supposed to be as neutral as the court. If they aren't neutral, they shouldn't be officiating. That's all there is to it.

Cal making it worse.... I feel like... yeah... maybe I've heard something like that before. Maybe.

Lo(F)L. It's what he does. He pushes and pushes and, when he's pushed too far, pushes some more. Shooters retreat into a shell of their former selves, confident drivers are hesitant to take it into the lane, and people that come in ready to run the floor suddenly can't space themselves properly. It's narcissistic and .... something
 
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notFromhere

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If you're getting the sht hacked out of you, getting pushed on screens, and hipped or kneed when driving, it will get in your head really quick and throw you off your game, unless you're used to playing against it constantly. If it's in YOUR COACH'S HEAD, it's 10 times worse.

It's the same way in football when you're on the DL. If the OL you're up against can hold, tackle, and put their hands up in your face mask all game without a call, guaranteed it affects the outcome.
 

NoDef

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Like Cal or not there was a pivotal amount of calls in the K-State game. The non-call on an obvious foul on Wallace and two shot free throws for a guy on K-State while passing the ball was pivotal. We probably win the game with the correct calls in those two spots.

With that being said Cal needs to get out of the 80's and evolve both offensively and defensively.

His roster makeup also sucks. Need to recruit more shooters and less athletes that nobody has to guard.
 

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A few years ago the head of refs in pac 12 was saying he would give a 5k bonus to any ref that would T up Sean Miller. He got in trouble I about guarantee you the refs hold the rooferee against us. But they should watch our games he called. He had to be on the take!!
 

notFromhere

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Yeah but also look at what everyone on espn was saying after the duke Tenn game.

Said it wasn’t even real basketball and that Tennessee got away with everything.

Same administration, just not coach K on the sidelines.

How you get the favor of those making the decisions is beyond my understanding.

Dinner on your tab or preferential treatment when theyre in town. Autographed memorabilia. Have em on campus to officiate some pickup games. Send em a note once in a while. It's the same way Rick always had the media in his pocket no matter what he did or said for many years

You can't let it get personal in a bad way no matter how horrible the ref is at his job
 

Chuckinden

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I've posted here years ago that Cal doesn't know how to interact with officials.

I officiated in HS for over 20 yrs and it's only natural for any human being in any capacity to have adverse feelings against certain coaches who seem to berate you because they just want to make you look bad.

There is a right and wrong way to argue a mistake an official has made and Cal doesn't know the right way.
 
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Being a police officer makes it okay not to do his job I guess.
This is all you need to know about the competence of this clown as a referee. From his own mouth.

"To get to the top level and be the best, referees have to be a little cocky," Pollard said. "Yes, we have to know the rules inside and out, but it’s more important to have an edge and natural instincts than memorizing the rule book."

The basketball arena is never big enough for two clowns.
 

Catman100

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If you don't think the topic of screwing Calipari doesn't come up in the the off season referee B-BQ's, I don't know what to tell you.
 
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