Calipari Coaching Tree

Kats23

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I think when he was at UMASS his system was very unknown so he was able to take a couple guys with some talent and win with it. By the time he went to Memphis he took on grey area studs and used his system to thrive. When he went to Kentucky, he was even at a better advantage with our resources. So how do you teach “get superior athletes and let them take your defender 1 on 1 and let him distribute to score. That doesn’t translate to other coaches like Pitino’s where his system works no matter what you have. It just works better when you have better athletes.
 

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Wildcats1st

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I saw some tweets about this and thought it would be an interesting discussion here. Not looking to pile with Cal because he clearly had some magic from mid 90s through late 2010s but it’s insane to me that his coaching tree is so barren.

Josh Pastner is his most successful assistant in terms of HC success and I would not categorize him as a Cal guy given he was on staff for one year.

After that you have Payne, Barbee, Antigua, Flint, Kellogg… no offense to those guys but I don’t even think you could categorize them as even mediocre head coaches.

So how does one of the most successful coaches in this era not have any coaching tree to speak of? I don’t think “he only won because of talent” is it, although that’s part of it. To me it probably points to his something in his personality or DNA and not giving up control on anything with his programs, stunting the growth of his assistants.

Would love to hear some thoughts/theories on this because I think it’s a pretty glaring anomaly that says something (what I don’t know) about Cal, for better or worse.
Cal is a terrible coach and his inability to develop coaches is a testament to his fixed mindset.
 

bthaunert

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Another coach who has had lots of success but has a pretty terrible coaching tree is Bill Self. I think BCG might be his most successful believe it or not.

Jay Wright is another one. I don’t believe he’s ever had an assistant hold a major DI job. Granted, he was only a head coach for 20 years.
 

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Interesting coaching tree. Dead end at Cal.



Oh that's freaking cool!
I was going to ask if something like this could be created but here it is!

See?
Even "another Cal thread" can lead to something unexpectedly awesome [laughing] 🌲

Thanks for posting that , Condor
 
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Wildcat Sheli

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Then former players who became D1 coaches. Pope, Pelphrey, Ford....who else are we missing?
(Things were looking so promising for Walter McCarty until 2019).
Though not a college player under Pitino, as a teenager in 1977 Cal participated in a Five Star Camp and met Pitino….

Sean Woods has coached at several universities.

Steve Masiello was head coach at Manhattan, and is currently an associate head coach under Pitino at St. John’s.

Scott Padgett was head coach at Samford, and is currently an assistant at Mississippi State.
 
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Trinity45

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I saw some tweets about this and thought it would be an interesting discussion here. Not looking to pile with Cal because he clearly had some magic from mid 90s through late 2010s but it’s insane to me that his coaching tree is so barren.

Josh Pastner is his most successful assistant in terms of HC success and I would not categorize him as a Cal guy given he was on staff for one year.

After that you have Payne, Barbee, Antigua, Flint, Kellogg… no offense to those guys but I don’t even think you could categorize them as even mediocre head coaches.

So how does one of the most successful coaches in this era not have any coaching tree to speak of? I don’t think “he only won because of talent” is it, although that’s part of it. To me it probably points to his something in his personality or DNA and not giving up control on anything with his programs, stunting the growth of his assistants.

Would love to hear some thoughts/theories on this because I think it’s a pretty glaring anomaly that says something (what I don’t know) about Cal, for better or worse.
Cal is not a real coach, so his assistants learn basically nothing basketball wise from him
 
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Wunky

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Take it easy on Brad. He goes out there and gets that Frankenstein fade cut everytime he goes to the barber and that takes guts

Is there a bigger goober out there than Brad Calipari? The fade… the turtlenecks… the bling. He is like a white Drake but with no money, women, or talent (not that Drake has any talent either). Brad does have a better jumper tho… barely.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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There was a fool on this message board a few years ago who tried to downplay Pitino's coaching tree. It was actually kind of humorous to watch his imbecilic logic in real time.
 

Aike

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My feeling on this was that Cal was more like a CEO. Your typical CEO isn’t trying to groom more CEOs. He/She is trying to fill whatever gaps needed to successfully run a company,

In Cal’s heyday, he did a nice job of hiring (and seemingly trusting) people who complemented his other abilities. Robic would be a great example. Rod Strickland would be another.

These guys might not be great head coaching material, but they fit well into the roles that Cal needed, and he leaned on them to do what they did well.
 

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Calipari is such an awful coach it’s not even funny. Look at how a lot of teams operate during a timeout. All of the coaches will huddle and discuss what they wanna do and then go deliver the message to the players. Could u imagine a scenario with cal and his assistants huddling and everyone getting their turn to give their input? He has to be the worst coach of all time about letting his assistants help him throughout a game. I can’t tell u how many times over the years I’ve seen chin or Antigua try to yell and tell a player something during live action or a dead ball and cal immediately turn around and shut that coach up. Why on earth would anyone wanna work for him? Oh yea it’s bc they get to just sit back and collect a paycheck.
 

Skyguyb27

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In all my years I have never heard a coach speak about extending his legacy by making another great head coach. However, smart people that are in CEO positions and management, the successful ones, tend to surround themselves with other smart people. I think there is a drastic difference in Pope’s stable of assistants vs Cal. Right now Arkansas is seeing why you don’t just hire your friends and family.
 

Skyguyb27

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Calipari is such an awful coach it’s not even funny. Look at how a lot of teams operate during a timeout. All of the coaches will huddle and discuss what they wanna do and then go deliver the message to the players. Could u imagine a scenario with cal and his assistants huddling and everyone getting their turn to give their input? He has to be the worst coach of all time about letting his assistants help him throughout a game. I can’t tell u how many times over the years I’ve seen chin or Antigua try to yell and tell a player something during live action or a dead ball and cal immediately turn around and shut that coach up. Why on earth would anyone wanna work for him? Oh yea it’s bc they get to just sit back and collect a paycheck, GO GET SOME STEAK DINNERS WIN OR LOSE, AND STAY DRUNK CHASING TAIL.
Fixed it for you. :)
 

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Brad Calipari is the most important Cal branch for UK. He's the reason why Cal left. If Cal hadn't insisted he was going to hire him and being told by Mitch that in most circumstances a head coach can hire who they want but not Brad, not now, and probably not ever. It would have been torches and pitchforks at both Cal and Mitch's doors. Cal got too cute for his own good and started fishing for offers with the proviso that he hires who he wants, Arkansas took the bait, Cal amazingly thought he had leverage with an Arkansas deal in hand but he'd voided his own deal with UK by negotiating with them.
 
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Brad Calipari is the most important Cal branch for UK. He's the reason why Cal left. If Cal hadn't insisted he was going to hire him and being told by Mitch that in most circumstances a head coach can hire who they want but not Brad, not now, and probably not ever. It would have been torches and pitchforks at both Cal and Mitch's doors. Cal got too cute for his own good and started fishing for offers with the proviso that he hires who he wants, Arkansas took the bait, Cal amazingly thought he had leverage with an Arkansas deal in hand but he'd voided his own deal with UK by negotiating with them.
Is this reported fact? Insane if so
 

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Joe B. Hall has more good coaches in his "tree" currently, Lenard Hamilton spent 10 years under Hall at UK, than Cal.