Calvin Ridley

[Hoyt Shepherd Sr.]

Bets $1,500 on NFL games last fall that will now cost him over $50,000,000 +. There's dumb and then there's dumber.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...calvin-ridley-least-2022-season-betting-games

 

[Tjlskers526]

Bets $1,500 on NFL games last fall that will now cost him over $50,000,000 +. There's dumb and then there's dumber.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...calvin-ridley-least-2022-season-betting-games

Where do you get $50MM+?

 

[king_kong_]

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

Somehow my Raiders didn’t trade for him first.

 

[king_kong_]

the NFL: come to the Super Bowl in Las Vegas, hosted by the home town Raiders & sponsored by MGM, Caesar's, DraftKings, FanDuel & more!

also the NFL: instant 1-year suspension for betting a meager sum ON your own team as part of an 8-team parlay while you're on IR.

classic

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

the NFL: come to the Super Bowl in Las Vegas, hosted by the home town Raiders & sponsored by MGM, Caesar's, DraftKings, FanDuel & more!

also the NFL: instant 1-year suspension for betting a meager sum ON your own team as part of an 8-team parlay while you're on IR.

classic

While I agree, I will simply say when you give a person a rope, they want to be a cowboy.
Sadly, some people aren’t smart enough to do things in moderation so they have to have prohibition.

Also, somewhat related to smart, there is a reason they have to stamp the paper on the packets in shoe boxes with “do not eat”.

 

[99_BoothBalloons]

the NFL: come to the Super Bowl in Las Vegas, hosted by the home town Raiders & sponsored by MGM, Caesar's, DraftKings, FanDuel & more!

also the NFL: instant 1-year suspension for betting a meager sum ON your own team as part of an 8-team parlay while you're on IR.

classic

The NFL would be in a weird spot if they were to police what types of bets players are allowed to make. Totally understandable to ban it altogether.

The guy can bet on literally any sport besides the NFL yet he decides to derail his career because he couldn’t resist betting on his team as part of an 8-team parlay? The only thing stupid about this situation is Calvin Ridley’s ability to assess risk and reward.

 

[nudan92]

The NFL and MLB have been drilling sports gambling into the heads of Americans 24/7 for the past few years now. Major League baseball even has their TV announcers announcing prop bets during actual broadcasts of games. It's highly hypocritical for these leagues to be suspending, fining or banning any of these players. MLB once banned Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle who were already retired just for attending a meet and greet at a casino.

 

[king_kong_]

The NFL and MLB have been drilling sports gambling into the heads of Americans 24/7 for the past few years now. Major League baseball even has their TV announcers announcing prop bets during actual broadcasts of games. It's highly hypocritical for these leagues to be suspending, fining or banning any of these players. MLB once banned Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle who were already retired just for attending a meet and greet at a casino.

PGA Tour, too.

should be noted gambling on your sport isn't illegal for all pro athletes. fighters are all but encouraged to bet on themselves in their bouts, and free to flaunt their winnings after.

 

[Hoyt Shepherd Sr.]

Where do you get $50MM+?

the dude would have been playing on his 5th year option, most likely negotiating an extension for bigger money than his recent $40 million contract.

 

[huskat]

the NFL: come to the Super Bowl in Las Vegas, hosted by the home town Raiders & sponsored by MGM, Caesar's, DraftKings, FanDuel & more!

also the NFL: instant 1-year suspension for betting a meager sum ON your own team as part of an 8-team parlay while you're on IR.

classic

I guess you are one that thinks Pete Rose should be reinstated, also?

 

[jteten]

The NFL and MLB have been drilling sports gambling into the heads of Americans 24/7 for the past few years now. Major League baseball even has their TV announcers announcing prop bets during actual broadcasts of games. It's highly hypocritical for these leagues to be suspending, fining or banning any of these players. MLB once banned Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle who were already retired just for attending a meet and greet at a casino.

Promoting your league via gambling shouldn’t green light players to gamble on their own sport. Odd defense of an absolutely horrible decision by Ridley. No gray area or moral ambiguity here.

 

[resdog851_rivals159165]

I bet you $1500 that you do!

 

[nwualum_rivals330058]

Just think about it. If you let players gamble, the integrity of every sporting league is completely gone. The league would be taken over by “shady” gamblers, and then would be completely tore down shortly there after. There’s a reason the rule exists. You may not like it but the alternative is much worse.

 

[zamzman]

That's petty change for a guy like Calvin but betting on NFL games demonstrates a deeply stupid individual.

Now perhaps the NFL had better look into that Miami owner who reportedly offered Flores $100K for each game he lost in an effort to tank the season.

 

[Can o' corn]

PGA Tour, too.

should be noted gambling on your sport isn't illegal for all pro athletes. fighters are all but encouraged to bet on themselves in their bouts, and free to flaunt their winnings after.

You've never seen a standard baseball contract.

 

[12bagger]

the NFL: come to the Super Bowl in Las Vegas, hosted by the home town Raiders & sponsored by MGM, Caesar's, DraftKings, FanDuel & more!

also the NFL: instant 1-year suspension for betting a meager sum ON your own team as part of an 8-team parlay while you're on IR.

classic

It’s not how much he bet it’s the action. When you sign a contract you agree to their rules it’s pretty simple

 

[steinek11]

Such a dummy. Just peel off a wad of cash, hand it to one of your lackeys and see how you end up. He could have won all of his bets and the winnings would've meant little to his bottom line.

Or, he sabotaged himself because he's too mentally fragile for the game. Easy out?

 

[huskat]

The number one rule in all professional sports is to ensure that the outcome isn't pre-determined and to ensure that your fans know the outcome isn't pre-determined. People can beat their wives, have babies from 12 moms, beat their kids, rape women, use drugs, use steroids...and there will be some path for them to return to the game because they didn't break rule #1.

If you break rule #1, then your sport is now professional wrestling, You simply don't pierce that veil, or come anywhere close to piercing that veil. You have no idea how often and hard that point is hammered home to anyone involved in professional athletics.

Ridley should have a lifetime ban, just like Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson.

 

[nudan92]

The number one rule in all professional sports is to ensure that the outcome isn't pre-determined and to ensure that your fans know the outcome isn't pre-determined. People can beat their wives, have babies from 12 moms, beat their kids, rape women, use drugs, use steroids...and there will be some path for them to return to the game because they didn't break rule #1.

If you break rule #1, then your sport is now professional wrestling, You simply don't pierce that veil, or come anywhere close to piercing that veil. You have no idea how often and hard that point is hammered home to anyone involved in professional athletics.

Ridley should have a lifetime ban, just like Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson.

How about the owners, coaches and players who tank games to get a higher draft number?

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

Regardless of the amount something tells me it is drilled into their heads at the rookie mandatory meetings not to do this. The suspension is well deserved.

 

[king_kong_]

 

[Dean Pope]

Ridley was so stupid. I heard name on his account with FanDuel was a variation of "The Real Calvin Ridley".

 

[Dean Pope]

If I recall correctly Ray Rice never played again.

 

[king_kong_]

Ridley should have a lifetime ban, just like Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson.

commit crimes that take years away from regular citizens? no problem in this fella's book. come on back and play!

but, bet ON your team while either not participating (Ridley), coaching (Rose) or being the best player by a hundred miles in a series (Shoeless Joe), you're banned for life

common sense apparently isn't so common after all

 

[king_kong_]

If I recall correctly Ray Rice never played again.

yea, because he had a million miles on his legs, not because he wasn't allowed to by the league

 

[Dean Pope]

yea, because he had a million miles on his legs, not because he wasn't allowed to by the league

Correct. Ray Rice was used up at that point, but he could have played the role of journeyman RB in the league for at least two more years if he hadn't committed that crime.

 

[huskat]

How about the owners, coaches and players who tank games to get a higher draft number?

If they are tanking games by having a bad roster, that is out in the open and everyone can see it; so no probems there. If they are tanking behind the scenes and paying coaches under the table to lose, they should be banned from the game forever.

 

[huskat]

commit crimes that take years away from regular citizens? no problem in this fella's book. come on back and play!

but, bet ON your team while either not participating (Ridley), coaching (Rose) or being the best player by a hundred miles in a series (Shoeless Joe), you're banned for life

common sense apparently isn't so common after all

I never said I agreed with the crime/suspension policies of professional sports. I just stated the fact that the business owners have said by their policies that many crimes against people are more forgivable than gambling within your sport. That is how damaging internal gambling is to a sport, and the leagues, owners, and players know it.

Please spare me the "they bet ON their team" garbage. No doubt, 100%, Pete Rose made managerial decisions within a game that he otherwise would not have because he had money on the game. In addition to being a cheat, Shoeless Joe is a double-crosser that is lucky he didn't get killed. The White Sox somehow win that series, he dies by a mafia hit. Both great players, and both made unforgivable decisions within their sport.

 

[king_kong_]

I never said I agreed with the crime/suspension policies of professional sports. I just stated the fact that the business owners have said by their policies that many crimes against people are more forgivable than gambling within your sport. That is how damaging internal gambling is to a sport, and the leagues, owners, and players know it.

Please spare me the "they bet ON their team" garbage. No doubt, 100%, Pete Rose made managerial decisions within a game that he otherwise would not have because he had money on the game. In addition to being a cheat, Shoeless Joe is a double-crosser that is lucky he didn't get killed. The White Sox somehow win that series, he dies by a mafia hit. Both great players, and both made unforgivable decisions within their sport.

I forgive them both and celebrate them as tragic heroes not recognized in their own time

if everyone bet on themselves every day, we’d live in utopia

 

[Yantzeee]

commit crimes that take years away from regular citizens? no problem in this fella's book. come on back and play!

but, bet ON your team while either not participating (Ridley), coaching (Rose) or being the best player by a hundred miles in a series (Shoeless Joe), you're banned for life

common sense apparently isn't so common after all

If I work for apple in accounting and I short their stock, yeah I’m going to be fired and end up in prison

if I don’t work for apple and short their securities, I’m likely going to be in zero legal trouble

Yes. People go to prison for insider trading. betting on your own sport is insider trading

Also What Ray Rice, Hardy, and Zeke did had zero impact to the sport aka their job. It was awful. It was wrong and law enforcement should have been involved.

but vice versa- what Ridley and Gordon’s did, did question their integrity for the game.
Also Gordon wasn’t suspended 6 years for weed. Not even close


context is everything. And yes common sense isn’t common for everyone. You proved this with an idiotic use of logic. Nice try

 

[steinek11]

yea, because he had a million miles on his legs, not because he wasn't allowed to by the league

He could still play. No team wanted to be associated with that degenerate. It's one thing to defend your own wife beaters. It's another thing to bring in someone else's

 

[resdog851_rivals159165]

The guy who tweeted the list of major transgressions didn't even list the biggest one. Ray Lewis literally held two guys while his crew stabbed them to death(!) at the NFL's most visible and popular event the Super Bowl. He then hid the evidence that he was ever there and lied to police for a while before finally snitching on the stabbers that he had been protecting. I don't think he missed a game. He is now a Hall of Famer. He appears on ESPN with the woke crowd like it never happened and he has never shown any shame at all about this. He is a million times worse than Ray Rice. Two dudes are dead because of him.

 

[huskat]

The guy who tweeted the list of major transgressions didn't even list the biggest one. Ray Lewis literally held two guys while his crew stabbed them to death(!) at the NFL's most visible and popular event the Super Bowl. He then hid the evidence that he was ever there and lied to police for a while before finally snitching on the stabbers that he had been protecting. I don't think he missed a game. He is now a Hall of Famer. He appears on ESPN with the woke crowd like it never happened and he has never shown any shame at all about this. He is a million times worse than Ray Rice. Two dudes are dead because of him.

This is making my point for me. All of these horrible things that are more forgivable are still less risky to the league and the owner's investment than internal gambling. The policies prove that.

 

[king_kong_]

This is making my point for me. All of these horrible things that are more forgivable are still less risky to the league and the owner's investment than internal gambling. The policies prove that.

The policies prove that the owners want to have their cake and eat it too, nothing more

they will never know if internal gambling is the death knell you claim it is unless they allow it

athletes gambling on themselves is something that’s been occurring in sports since literally day 1. no league has been brought to its knees because of it, and none ever will in the future

this is entirely about owners fearing change because they’ve made a mint with the way things are. That’s it, it’s that simple

old people hate change & love to use morals/ethics as a shield to stop it. It’s always ********

 

[king_kong_]

If I work for apple in accounting and I short their stock, yeah I’m going to be fired and end up in prison

if I don’t work for apple and short their securities, I’m likely going to be in zero legal trouble

Yes. People go to prison for insider trading. betting on your own sport is insider trading

Also What Ray Rice, Hardy, and Zeke did had zero impact to the sport aka their job. It was awful. It was wrong and law enforcement should have been involved.

but vice versa- what Ridley and Gordon’s did, did question their integrity for the game.
Also Gordon wasn’t suspended 6 years for weed. Not even close


context is everything. And yes common sense isn’t common for everyone. You proved this with an idiotic use of logic. Nice try

Get a DUI and see if your boss reasons it away with - “hey, it’s bad but has nothing to do with your job, so see you tomorrow.”

brilliant

 

[huskat]

The policies prove that the owners want to have their cake and eat it too, nothing more

they will never know if internal gambling is the death knell you claim it is unless they allow it

athletes gambling on themselves is something that’s been occurring in sports since literally day 1. no league has been brought to its knees because of it, and none ever will in the future

this is entirely about owners fearing change because they’ve made a mint with the way things are. That’s it, it’s that simple

old people hate change & love to use morals/ethics as a shield to stop it. It’s always ********

Got it. So you'd risk your billion-dollar investment to "try out gambling" and see what happens. Noted.

I never said that the owners flag gambling as a morals/ethics issue, so that argument isn't valid. It is the fear of becoming professional wrestling for real or the perception of their fans. Once fans lose faith that the outcomes are not pre-determined, sports leagues are done.

 

[king_kong_]

Got it. So you'd risk your billion-dollar investment to "try out gambling" and see what happens. Noted.

I never said that the owners flag gambling as a morals/ethics issue, so that argument isn't valid. It is the fear of becoming professional wrestling for real or the perception of their fans. Once fans lose faith that the outcomes are not pre-determined, sports leagues are done.

I understand your argument

it's just wrong

those things have proven to not matter, literally even .01%, throughout the history of pro sports leagues. the NFL/MLB/NBA are not special

the bald reality is this - without fans gambling, the NFL's viewership is cut in half instantly. players gambling ON THEMSELVES wouldn't change anything, no matter how hard you and 32 rich guys clutch their pearls and try to will the sky into falling.

WrestleMania is this week. 2 nights, biggest live sporting event on the planet every year, Vince McMahon will be actively printing a billion dollars.

their sport becoming pro wrestling is every owner's wet dream

 

[huskat]

I understand your argument

it's just wrong

those things have proven to not matter, literally even .01%, throughout the history of pro sports leagues. the NFL/MLB/NBA are not special

the bald reality is this - without fans gambling, the NFL's viewership is cut in half instantly. players gambling ON THEMSELVES wouldn't change anything, no matter how hard you and 32 rich guys clutch their pearls and try to will the sky into falling.

WrestleMania is this week. 2 nights, biggest live sporting event on the planet every year, Vince McMahon will be actively printing a billion dollars.

their sport becoming pro wrestling is every owner's wet dream

Just to be clear, your opinion is that gambling on games by players, coaches, owners, gas, etc. should be completely legal. Do I have that right?