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That's funny; We couldn't at least have an anti-SP thread as our inaugural B-Ball message.
 

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If you wanted a chance for this to be positive, you might had said Rutgers alumnus, Cam Spencer. Otherwise honestly it is interesting but as the first thread it feels like trolling, intended or not.
 
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If you wanted a chance for this to be positive, you might had said Rutgers alumnus, Cam Spencer. Otherwise honestly it is interesting but as the first thread it feels like trolling, intended or not.
I really don't need to spell **** out for people, everyone on this board (or everyone that will be on it) knows who Cam is. They'll have their thoughts whether I call him Rutgers grad or not. To me, the kid spent as much time at RU as Dylan and Ace, and was just as good of a player on a better team. I'm happy for him, despite wishing he had stayed that second year.
 

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I'm happy for him and mad at him at the same time. I didn't like what he did or how he did it. I did like how he played basketball.
There are certain " fans" on these boards that relish the negativity towards RU. It's obvious and honestly if you " love " RU you'd never go out of your way to post the crap they post.They get their rocks off attacking the school and not to make anything better.
 
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There are certain " fans" on these boards that relish the negativity towards RU. It's obvious and honestly if you " love " RU you'd never go out of your way to post the crap they post.They get their rocks off attacking the school and not to make anything better.
The bulk of them are not actually Rutgers fans.. they are anti-Rutgers fans.. maybe because they couldn't get in, or they resent their taxes allegedly going to Rutgers sports.. a competitor to their favorite teams.. I think that's the bulk of them.. NJ residents who are fans of SHU, Nova, UCONN etc in basketball and wherever is a frontrunner in football in their youth.. Notre Dame, Penn State.. we even have Syracuse fans resenting Rutgers,
 
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Cam deal renegotiated:

$10.5 million, 4 years, 3 years guaranteed.

Not bad for a slow guy who can't create his own shot.

I insisted Cam left Rutgers primarily to improve his chance at an NBA career, with money as distant second priority.

 
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Cam deal renegotiated:

$10.5 million, 4 years, 3 years guaranteed.

Not bad for a slow guy who can't create his own shot.

I insisted Cam left Rutgers primarily to improve his chance at an NBA career, with money as distant second priority.


Cam's brother did not like how he was used at Rutgers. Pike did teach him defensive fundamentals that rounded out his repertoire.

The fact he next as he did, the day after representing the team at a fundraising function, to go to Gtown tells a different story, Koko. He may have ultimately chosen UConn for that reason but it was not why he left.
 

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Cam's brother did not like how he was used at Rutgers. Pike did teach him defensive fundamentals that rounded out his repertoire.

The fact he next as he did, the day after representing the team at a fundraising function, to go to Gtown tells a different story, Koko. He may have ultimately chosen UConn for that reason but it was not why he left.
Cam made the right decision evidenced by the indisputable historical fact Cam won a NCAA national basketball championship and signed a multiyear guaranteed NBA contract. Neither would happen if he stayed at Rutgers.

Why did Cam leave Rutgers? Cam wanted a NCAA championship and the NBA. He got both.
 

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And the end justifies the means.
He chose to leave with the intention of going to Georgetown, which would have been no better for either his NCAA chances or his NBA prospects than Rutgers. UConn was a later opportunity.

And just to bring us back to the facts, something you usually are very good at, his multi year contract was not earned via UConn. It was earned due to his performance in the NBA ecosystem. Which he also could have done from Rutgers.

You are saying something that feels real, but is not. Truthiness, not truth.
 
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And the end justifies the means.
He chose to leave with the intention of going to Georgetown, which would have been no better for either his NCAA chances or his NBA prospects than Rutgers. UConn was a later opportunity.

And just to bring us back to the facts, something you usually are very good at, his multi year contract was not earned via UConn. It was earned due to his performance in the NBA ecosystem. Which he also could have done from Rutgers.

You are saying something that feels real, but is not. Truthiness, not truth.

same time, hard to argue that being a star on a national champion didn’t raise his profile more than being a star on a bubble team. Don’t like what he did, but at the same time, it’s a career/business decision for them and we lose that in our fandom.
 

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Sad for Rutgers, Cam made right choice to leave for $$$ and national championship. He was able to shine more with better players and coaches around him at UConn. I cannot remember Pike ever running Cam off a screen for an open 3 pointer. Good for him that he worked to get an NBA contract. As I think about it, he would have been a great complimentary piece off the bench for the Knicks, like a TJ McConnell for Indiana but way better shooter.
 

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Cam made the right decision evidenced by the indisputable historical fact Cam won a NCAA national basketball championship and signed a multiyear guaranteed NBA contract. Neither would happen if he stayed at Rutgers.

Why did Cam leave Rutgers? Cam wanted a NCAA championship and the NBA. He got both.
Why did Cam leave LOM afyer 3 years there ?? > he probably felt transferring to Rutgers would be better for his basketball career goals.
His play at Rutgers gave UConn a reason to want him and playing for them probably had Cam feel he'd have a better chance to be drafted by an NBA team than if he stayed at RU.
Spencer did what was best for him and in the process helped the 3 college programs he played for
When he played for Loyola from 2019 to 2022, HE EARNED All-Patriot League First Team honors as a junior and leading the league in scoring (18.9 points per game) and steals (2.3 per game) also averaged 4.8 rebounds and 3.2 assists
Then it was on to RU for the 2022-2023 season, where he started all 34 games averaging 13.2 points , 3.8 rebounds and 3.1 assists a game and was reportedly a great teammate ( I thunk some here posted that )
He then transferred to UConn playing a role in their 2023-2024 NCAA Championship run.
At UConn, he averaged 14.3 points, 4.9 rebounds, and 3.6 assists per game
Now in the NBA , so he made all the right moves .
 

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Honestly, a redshirt year followed by a Dylan, Ace, Cam year might also have been awesome for him.
 

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Amazing that NBA guys can get one way contracts for that “small” of an amount because the giant contracts get all the pub.
After a quick check that is in the area of the league minimum for his cohort.
 

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Why is there the need to point any of this out? Especially if it is presented as a negative for RU?
 

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Sad for Rutgers, Cam made right choice to leave for $$$ and national championship. He was able to shine more with better players and coaches around him at UConn. I cannot remember Pike ever running Cam off a screen for an open 3 pointer. Good for him that he worked to get an NBA contract. As I think about it, he would have been a great complimentary piece off the bench for the Knicks, like a TJ McConnell for Indiana but way better shooter.
[I edit - the screens were designed to free up Spencer, but not always for 3 point shots: Many teams defend the high screen at the 3-point line with drop coverage - leaving the dribbler open for 3 p teams NEVRE did that against Spencer - for obvious reasons. What the clip does show just how may screens were run for Spencer in general - like almost every play .. but it does not show how aggressive teams defended the screens only at the 3-pojnt line that prevented 3's]

Then you need to work on improving your memory or you will have cognitive problems for years. RU ran tons of screens for Spencer - including off-ball screens. The off-ball screens, especially doubke screens, were for open 3-poingters

Standard revisionist history designed to support the anti-Pike agenda from way too many on this Board.

See this 25 minute highlight clip:

I chatted the highlights and stopped at the 7 minute mark of the clip there were so many screens set for Spencer. There were 2 primary types of screens set for Spencer:

1) High on-ball screens at the top of the key/3-point line, usually Omoruyi with Spencer as the dribbler, a screen and roll designed to make the defenders make a choice, leading either to a mid-range or mid-range post jumper by Spencer or a pass to Omoruyi for the dunk - or occasionally a pass to the wing for Hyatt or Mag 3-pointer.

2) Off-ball screens with Spencer coming from the baseline, and curling into the mid-range. A forward or guard,, like Mag or McConnel, or sometimes Rieber, would set those screens often.
 

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I do know from as reliable a source as there is other than the Spencers, that his brother did not like how he was used. That said, the myth that Pike didn't run an offense remains a myth.
 
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It is ok to criticize Pike's offensive game plan when we see other conference opponents like Iowa, Purdue and Michigan consistently run offensive sets to maximize the skill sets of their players. I want to Rutgers to succeed as an alum and fan but it has been very discouraging to see Pike run the horns set, occasional screen and then let some guy pull up for 16 foot jumper.
 

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I do know from as reliable a source as there is other than the Spencers, that his brother did not like how he was used. That said, the myth that Pike didn't run an offense remains a myth.
People don't seem to know the difference between not running an offense and running an ineffective offense.
 
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[I edit - the screens were designed to free up Spencer, but not always for 3 point shots: Many teams defend the high screen at the 3-point line with drop coverage - leaving the dribbler open for 3 p teams NEVRE did that against Spencer - for obvious reasons. What the clip does show just how may screens were run for Spencer in general - like almost every play .. but it does not show how aggressive teams defended the screens only at the 3-pojnt line that prevented 3's]

Then you need to work on improving your memory or you will have cognitive problems for years. RU ran tons of screens for Spencer - including off-ball screens. The off-ball screens, especially doubke screens, were for open 3-poingters

Standard revisionist history designed to support the anti-Pike agenda from way too many on this Board.

See this 25 minute highlight clip:

I chatted the highlights and stopped at the 7 minute mark of the clip there were so many screens set for Spencer. There were 2 primary types of screens set for Spencer:

1) High on-ball screens at the top of the key/3-point line, usually Omoruyi with Spencer as the dribbler, a screen and roll designed to make the defenders make a choice, leading either to a mid-range or mid-range post jumper by Spencer or a pass to Omoruyi for the dunk - or occasionally a pass to the wing for Hyatt or Mag 3-pointer.

2) Off-ball screens with Spencer coming from the baseline, and curling into the mid-range. A forward or guard,, like Mag or McConnel, or sometimes Rieber, would set those screens often.

Great post.
 
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It’s a horrible contract by NBA standards but it’s a great salary for the average person.
 
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