Can anyone explain Texas to me ?

007LeroyBond

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What the hell is up with that team ? Goodness..they were looking really good for most of the Non-Conference..they even played UK tough in Rupp Arena..and then...what happened ? Lol I see they're struggling with lowly Texas Tech. tonight at halftime.
 

mcwildcats04

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Originally posted by 007LeroyBond:
What the hell is up with that team ? Goodness..they were looking really good for most of the Non-Conference..they even played UK tough in Rupp Arena..and then...what happened ? Lol I see they're struggling with lowly Texas Tech. tonight at halftime.
#TheRickBarnesEffect
 

bluinbville

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Rick Barnes happened. What bugs me is that people are saying that Texas should get off the bubble by beating Tech. Why should a Power 5 school get any credit for beating a conference bottom feeder in the conference tournament? I loved Bilas' idea of designating the at large bid pool at the end of the regular season 1-68. As the automatic bids begin to take a slot, the bottom team would be crossed off the list. The only way to earn a bid after that would be to win their conference tournament. I would much rather see an Iona get a bid rather than Texas who has had chance after chance to win games against top 50 teams.
 

kentuckyrld

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As everyone has pretty much figured out, Texas started with a very talented group of players and by the time the end of the season got here, Coach Barnes has reduced them to an unrecognizable group of players with absolutely no sense of direction. He has to be one of the worst coaches in NCAA history.
 

RacerX.ksr

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It's actually Mexico. Everything is large there. No beans in their chili. They suck at doing Presidents. I drove across it one week.
 

007LeroyBond

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Originally posted by bluinbville:
Rick Barnes happened. What bugs me is that people are saying that Texas should get off the bubble by beating Tech. Why should a Power 5 school get any credit for beating a conference bottom feeder in the conference tournament? I loved Bilas' idea of designating the at large bid pool at the end of the regular season 1-68. As the automatic bids begin to take a slot, the bottom team would be crossed off the list. The only way to earn a bid after that would be to win their conference tournament. I would much rather see an Iona get a bid rather than Texas who has had chance after chance to win games against top 50 teams.
I couldn't agree more. They are 19-12..freaking 19-12..how are they even near the bubble ?! Yeah, they beat Baylor..but their Conference record..even if they win tonight is 9-10..My God. They'll probably lose again in the Big 12 Tournament..no no..there's no probably to it..they WILL lose again..which will give them 11 Conference losses..and a losing record in conference overall..and 13 losses overall. But Texas A&M here in the SEC is 11-7 in Conference and are 20-10..probably 21-10 and 12-7 in the Conference after tommorrow..but they're on the outside looking in ? I know Texas A&M didn't beat a Baylor type rank team this year..they did SWEEP LSU though. What a joke.
 

kyjeff1

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Top 5 talent with a high school level coach.
Texas doesn't care about basketball and some brilliant mind in the B12 conference decided to give that joker a coach of the year award….. twice so the AD at UT can't really fire the guy.
The biggest issue I have with it is these talented kids continue to sign on to play for this guy. It's crazy to me.
 

Waterview Catfan

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Thanks preacherfan, didn't recall his final four. One in 17 years at a place like Texas isn't exactly setting the world on fire, for sure.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by 007LeroyBond:
Originally posted by bluinbville:
Rick Barnes happened. What bugs me is that people are saying that Texas should get off the bubble by beating Tech. Why should a Power 5 school get any credit for beating a conference bottom feeder in the conference tournament? I loved Bilas' idea of designating the at large bid pool at the end of the regular season 1-68. As the automatic bids begin to take a slot, the bottom team would be crossed off the list. The only way to earn a bid after that would be to win their conference tournament. I would much rather see an Iona get a bid rather than Texas who has had chance after chance to win games against top 50 teams.
I couldn't agree more. They are 19-12..freaking 19-12..how are they even near the bubble ?! Yeah, they beat Baylor..but their Conference record..even if they win tonight is 9-10..My God. They'll probably lose again in the Big 12 Tournament..no no..there's no probably to it..they WILL lose again..which will give them 11 Conference losses..and a losing record in conference overall..and 13 losses overall. But Texas A&M here in the SEC is 11-7 in Conference and are 20-10..probably 21-10 and 12-7 in the Conference after tommorrow..but they're on the outside looking in ? I know Texas A&M didn't beat a Baylor type rank team this year..they did SWEEP LSU though. What a joke.
It's pretty simple for TX A&M. Beat Auburn and beat LSU again...and they should be in.

I'll also add that this Texas team beat Iowa OOC, UCONN (when they were ranked), WVU by almost 30, and Baylor. Is that very impressive? Not really, but beating Iowa and UCONN OOC is like beating UK and UVA in comparison to A&M's best OOC wins. Plus, like it or not, WVU and Baylor are two top 20 wins for Texas in conference play. Plus, I am not even sure Texas is in 100% with a win tonight. I think they should be, as they are clearly one of the top whatever at large teams...and I'd much rather see them in a play in game than some cupcuke midmajor.

On another note, I see Miami is struggling with VA Tech tonight. That is another team that MUST win, and probably would help to look impressive doing so...so far failing on the latter and barely succeeding in the former.
 
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Barnes I'm sure has the Xs and Os knowledge that most, if not all, D-1 coaches has. What separates the wheat from the chaff though is the ability to not only explain where players are supposed to be on the court, or how to play a zone or man to man defenses, but how to mesh with teammates, give their all in the games, stay motivated, be positive, just in general get the most out of their talents. Cal really has no peer in those areas.
 

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So glad Rick Barnes didn't end up here, heard he was viable option prior to BIlly G. I'll take the Billy G nonsense for two years for where we are now. Barnes would have been a little bit better than Billy G but with no ROI.
 

007LeroyBond

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Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by 007LeroyBond:
Originally posted by bluinbville:
Rick Barnes happened. What bugs me is that people are saying that Texas should get off the bubble by beating Tech. Why should a Power 5 school get any credit for beating a conference bottom feeder in the conference tournament? I loved Bilas' idea of designating the at large bid pool at the end of the regular season 1-68. As the automatic bids begin to take a slot, the bottom team would be crossed off the list. The only way to earn a bid after that would be to win their conference tournament. I would much rather see an Iona get a bid rather than Texas who has had chance after chance to win games against top 50 teams.
I couldn't agree more. They are 19-12..freaking 19-12..how are they even near the bubble ?! Yeah, they beat Baylor..but their Conference record..even if they win tonight is 9-10..My God. They'll probably lose again in the Big 12 Tournament..no no..there's no probably to it..they WILL lose again..which will give them 11 Conference losses..and a losing record in conference overall..and 13 losses overall. But Texas A&M here in the SEC is 11-7 in Conference and are 20-10..probably 21-10 and 12-7 in the Conference after tommorrow..but they're on the outside looking in ? I know Texas A&M didn't beat a Baylor type rank team this year..they did SWEEP LSU though. What a joke.
It's pretty simple for TX A&M. Beat Auburn and beat LSU again...and they should be in.

I'll also add that this Texas team beat Iowa OOC, UCONN (when they were ranked), WVU by almost 30, and Baylor. Is that very impressive? Not really, but beating Iowa and UCONN OOC is like beating UK and UVA in comparison to A&M's best OOC wins. Plus, like it or not, WVU and Baylor are two top 20 wins for Texas in conference play. Plus, I am not even sure Texas is in 100% with a win tonight. I think they should be, as they are clearly one of the top whatever at large teams...and I'd much rather see them in a play in game than some cupcuke midmajor.

On another note, I see Miami is struggling with VA Tech tonight. That is another team that MUST win, and probably would help to look impressive doing so...so far failing on the latter and barely succeeding in the former.
But whew..that 9-10 (As Texas is pulling away in their game vs. Texas Tech.) is pretty horrible. And yeah, Texas A&M did blow it their selves losing to Florida and Alabama (Alabama at home.) back to back..that's pretty awful. Back to Texas though..they are soooooo inconsistent and will finish with a losing record in the Big 12, which I believe is an overrated Conference. I do remember in one of the BCG years, UK finishing something like 18-13 but we did pretty good in the SEC with a 12-7 Conference record and we did get in..but we had wins over ranked Vanderbilt and Tennessee teams that season..and also putrid losses to Gardner-Webb and San Diego at home. I mean, I guess I can see Texas getting in..but 9-10 and probably 9-11 or 10-11 at best in Conference..I'm with Bilas..if a team doesn't finish at least .500 in their Conference, they shouldn't get into the NCAA Tournament unless they win their Conference Tournament and get the automatic bid.
 

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Originally posted by capnmonkey:
Rick Barnes can win, he just needs players better than Kevin Durant.
 

HexxenHammer

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Texas is acting like an SEC team. They get hyped up and play their best game against us, then go belly-up for most of the season.
 

ORCAT

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I doubt many will agree with me here but I would probably think Rick Barnes' lack of coaching ability has something to do with it.
 

GLR5555

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Their clock is ticking and time will expire way too soon on this season.
 
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How he managed to get the talent he has is beyond me. Anyone else would be on a major hot seat.
 

jauk11

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Originally posted by ymmot31:
It's actually Mexico. Everything is large there. No beans in their chili. They suck at doing Presidents. I drove across it one week.
If you drove across it in one week you had to be speeding. Your ticket is in the mail.

Thanks for the confession, don't you feel better now?
 

LowCountryCat

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Originally posted by KentuckyRLD:
As everyone has pretty much figured out, Texas started with a very talented group of players and by the time the end of the season got here, Coach Barnes has reduced them to an unrecognizable group of players with absolutely no sense of direction. He has to be one of the worst coaches in NCAA history.
Rick Barnes is exactly what the media tries to portray Calipari as - nothing but a recruiter. He literally just rolls the balls out.
 

jwheat

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He isnt even good at rolling the ball out. Some posters were saying he was a good coach after they played us decent in Rupp. LOL
 

bluedog79

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I'd bet the refs will do what they can to get Texas to the b12 finals. That would get them in the tourney. REASON: texas is a huge tv market and its ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. Texas is money insurance in case the big draws like Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, or UNC lose early in the tourney. Atleast ya can pull money from texas fans for one or two games is the thought.
 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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I'll echo the chorus. Barnes and the general apathy towards basketball by UT. No worries. Texas will get in. Heck, they might even be an 8/9 seed LOL. In Duke's bracket of course. After all they play in the Big "12" even if they mostly lose. 8-10. Wow, what a tournament resume.
 

caneintally

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Barnes sucks but that isn't what happened this year . This year they were humming along , a top 5 team IMO , and then Taylor came back . With all the talent on that team , and there is a ton boy , they were better with Felix who was didn't need to look to score and all his teammates loved him . Taylor is a bit more abrasive and is a score first PG and when he came back it totally threw off the teams rhythm and with a coach like Barnes that was the death nil. Just a messed up year for Texas but if they get in they could easily make a final 4 run as they 3-4 pros on the team.
 

bluinbville

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Originally posted by caneintally:
Barnes sucks but that isn't what happened this year . This year they were humming along , a top 5 team IMO , and then Taylor came back . With all the talent on that team , and there is a ton boy , they were better with Felix who was didn't need to look to score and all his teammates loved him . Taylor is a bit more abrasive and is a score first PG and when he came back it totally threw off the teams rhythm and with a coach like Barnes that was the death nil. Just a messed up year for Texas but if they get in they could easily make a final 4 run as they 3-4 pros on the team.
I was in complete agreement until the last sentence. RB has been in Austin for 17 years and has managed one F4 with a favorable draw and game sites, played the S16 and E8 in Houston IIRC. Teams don't go from having a multiple personality disorder to cohesive in three days without a tweak. The king of the tweak does not reside in Austin. Texas has no balance on offense and an inability to space the floor.
 

jameslee32

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Sure, it's the 2nd biggest state in the Union by geography and is located between Oklahoma, Mexico, New Mexico, Arkansas and Louisiana. Famous dance: Texas two-step.
 

TigerPawsSC

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Originally posted by 007LeroyBond:
Originally posted by bluinbville:
Rick Barnes happened. What bugs me is that people are saying that Texas should get off the bubble by beating Tech. Why should a Power 5 school get any credit for beating a conference bottom feeder in the conference tournament? I loved Bilas' idea of designating the at large bid pool at the end of the regular season 1-68. As the automatic bids begin to take a slot, the bottom team would be crossed off the list. The only way to earn a bid after that would be to win their conference tournament. I would much rather see an Iona get a bid rather than Texas who has had chance after chance to win games against top 50 teams.
I couldn't agree more. They are 19-12..freaking 19-12..how are they even near the bubble ?! Yeah, they beat Baylor..but their Conference record..even if they win tonight is 9-10..My God. They'll probably lose again in the Big 12 Tournament..no no..there's no probably to it..they WILL lose again..which will give them 11 Conference losses..and a losing record in conference overall..and 13 losses overall. But Texas A&M here in the SEC is 11-7 in Conference and are 20-10..probably 21-10 and 12-7 in the Conference after tommorrow..but they're on the outside looking in ? I know Texas A&M didn't beat a Baylor type rank team this year..they did SWEEP LSU though. What a joke.
There's a reason Texas is 18 in Pomeroy's ratings and Aggie is outside the top50.
 

caneintally

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Originally posted by bluinbville:
Originally posted by caneintally:
Barnes sucks but that isn't what happened this year . This year they were humming along , a top 5 team IMO , and then Taylor came back . With all the talent on that team , and there is a ton boy , they were better with Felix who was didn't need to look to score and all his teammates loved him . Taylor is a bit more abrasive and is a score first PG and when he came back it totally threw off the teams rhythm and with a coach like Barnes that was the death nil. Just a messed up year for Texas but if they get in they could easily make a final 4 run as they 3-4 pros on the team.
I was in complete agreement until the last sentence. RB has been in Austin for 17 years and has managed one F4 with a favorable draw and game sites, played the S16 and E8 in Houston IIRC. Teams don't go from having a multiple personality disorder to cohesive in three days without a tweak. The king of the tweak does not reside in Austin. Texas has no balance on offense and an inability to space the floor.
Oh if they make that run i will be in spite of Barnes not because of him !
 

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Rick Barnes has officially removed his name from consideration for the NCAA Tornament.
 

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They do way underachieve as a team. Texas is not just a football state, which makes one wonder. When does Barnes get tarred and feathered?
 
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Say what you will about Barnes - I really haven't kept up with Texas enough over years to know the whole story - but this year they really had a team cohesiveness problem. Texas had a UK 2013esque year with an Archie Goodwin-esque player running the point. Then again, Texas had the bodies not to have that problem this year, and ultimately that means Barnes was a bad team manager.