Caravan frosh b-ball on today's Trib front page

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Is it really true that the Mt. Carmel Caravan varsity basketball team is 5-20? How could a school with all that athletic talent have that kind of record? They were pretty good last year, what happened? Injuries? Recruiting losses? Did they start running the option?
 
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I would like to see a story about the impact of transgender coaches. I think a transgender coach would offer a unique perspective for today's student athlete.
 
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Is it really true that the Mt. Carmel Caravan varsity basketball team is 5-20? How could a school with all that athletic talent have that kind of record? They were pretty good last year, what happened? Injuries? Recruiting losses? Did they start running the option?
I'm not the best to chime in on this since I've never really followed high school hoops, but I heard of their shortcomings as well, I was told they lost all 5 starters from last years successful team, plus top reserve. No real size at all. New coach, first year coaching varsity and put in a new system. Give them a couple years, they're lower levels are doing really well, they'll rebuild to being a "good" team.
 
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Basketball only take a couple of very talented players to turn a team around. What happened to hockey? They were always pretty good at that. Wrestling is still a winter sport and they are darn good at that.
 

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Basketball only take a couple of very talented players to turn a team around. What happened to hockey? They were always pretty good at that. Wrestling is still a winter sport and they are darn good at that.
There are a lot of outstanding hockey players who attend MC but don't play for MC. They play full time for their AAA travel teams...common trend now at every school
 

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There are a lot of outstanding hockey players who attend MC but don't play for MC. They play full time for their AAA travel teams...common trend now at every school

That's supposed to be the story at LA and the reason they do not field a CCL team.
 

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That's supposed to be the story at LA and the reason they do not field a CCL team.
It's a sad thing. When you watch a high school hockey game now it's almost like watching a B team game. Don't get me wrong there are talented players, and there are some talented players that split time between AAA and high school, but most don't. There is a MC student I know that is one of the top ranked players in the state but he plays full time for his travel team. It's comparable to kids playing full time travel baseball over there neighborhood youth leagues when they are 9 years old. It's sad.
 

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There are a lot of outstanding hockey players who attend MC but don't play for MC. They play full time for their AAA travel teams...common trend now at every school

This might be the case in football in years top come I think Brown and Griffith are the tip of the iceberg.
 
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It's a sad thing. When you watch a high school hockey game now it's almost like watching a B team game. Don't get me wrong there are talented players, and there are some talented players that split time between AAA and high school, but most don't. There is a MC student I know that is one of the top ranked players in the state but he plays full time for his travel team. It's comparable to kids playing full time travel baseball over there neighborhood youth leagues when they are 9 years old. It's sad.
I don't think you can compare high school kids playing travel hockey to some 9 year old kid playing travel baseball. By the time the kids reach the later years of high school sports, a ton of the crap has been weeded out, even in travel sports. What you said about the 9 year old may have been true 15 years ago or so, but there is a lot of crap in youth travel sports at younger ages with the explosion of the number of teams out there.

Kids in HS are obviously doing this because they feel the level of play is far better. And that is evidenced in your post outlining the fact a HS hockey game looks like a B team game. Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, it won't change anytime soon.

I say this tongue-in-cheek. But, no athlete at MC or any private school is playing with kids from their "neighborhood" anyway. Right??
 

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It's a sad thing. When you watch a high school hockey game now it's almost like watching a B team game. Don't get me wrong there are talented players, and there are some talented players that split time between AAA and high school, but most don't. There is a MC student I know that is one of the top ranked players in the state but he plays full time for his travel team. It's comparable to kids playing full time travel baseball over there neighborhood youth leagues when they are 9 years old. It's sad.

I can see more IMG type schools forming and with all concern on head injuries you'll have less kids playing and with specialization in certain sports, I can definitely see in 20 some years traditional high school football being like hockey is now.