Cason Wallace torching Reed Sheppard

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It is also extremely embarrasing how much people are trying to find Twitter posts on Reeds performance.

.. especially praising Cason Wallace, who probably feels the same way about Kentucky as the majority of past players (cover your ears some of you):

Mostly indifferent.

All because of a pair of shorts or whatever. Oof.
I couldn’t care less about what he wears. He’s just not that good defensively. Sorry, I wish he were. I’m rootin’ for him.
 

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“Yet, the ugliest wart so far for the Rockets has been Reed Sheppard's minutes on defense, as he came off the bench and was immediately targeted multiple times by some of the Thunder's quicker players.”


I couldn’t care less about what he wears. He’s just not that good defensively. Sorry, I wish he were. I’m rootin’ for him.

You seem FAR too excited to see Reed struggle for me to believe this. Theres an agenda here. Which is fine, just dont try and say youre rooting for him.
 

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“Yet, the ugliest wart so far for the Rockets has been Reed Sheppard's minutes on defense, as he came off the bench and was immediately targeted multiple times by some of the Thunder's quicker players.”

I mean if G.C Bellchamber of spacecityscoop on Fansided says it, it’s gotta be gospel. That’s it he’s done. After the opening game against the world champs. No way he can replace that lock down defender Fred Vanfleet. His +/- for the game was 0. He didn’t cost them the game, but didn’t do anything of enough significance to help them win the game. That would be my takeaway from it.
 
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He looked pretty bad. Especially the late turnover near halfcourt trying to get it to Durant. But Wallace, Dort and Caruso are all elite defenders. It's about a tough a matchup you could possibly have in his first game as a rotation guy.

I imagine Houston will be looking at veteran PGs around the trade deadline regardless. They're in title mode with Durant.
 

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Im pretty sure Amen was just cramping. But im also a little concerned why he didnt come back in. May be game 1, but its a huge game against your biggest competition in the West, and you have a chance to win opening night and hand a 65-win OKC team a loss.

If this is an injury, theyre gonna have to do something for sure at PG. Thats just not a role suited for year 2 Reed.
 

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You seem FAR too excited to see Reed struggle for me to believe this. Theres an agenda here. Which is fine, just dont try and say youre rooting for him.
I like the kid but I’m not oblivious to the fact concerning his limitations. Trying to prove a point to fan boys shouldn't be mistaken for being excited to see him struggle or having some sort of agenda against him. In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn’t matter. He is what he is .
 

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I mean if G.C Bellchamber of spacecityscoop on Fansided says it, it’s gotta be gospel.
It’s really not that difficult to discern. StatMuse even gives him a bad rating.





 

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It’s really not that difficult to discern. StatMuse even gives him a bad rating.





Yeah. I’m not arguing anymore about a kid who was not drafted for his defensive prowess. Maybe you should read your post title again. You claimed Wallace was torching him. You showed one clip to confirm this “torching”. Wallace had 14 pts in over 40 minutes of playing time. Not all of which were while being guarded by Reed. You have an agenda. It’s ok. I wasn’t happy about the Arkansas thing either. I doubt he lives up to his draft pick. A lot of guys haven’t. I’m also not gonna bash him over one game.
 
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Yeah. I’m not arguing anymore about a kid who was not drafted for his defensive prowess. Maybe you should read your post title again. You claimed Wallace was torching him. You showed one clip to confirm this “torching”. Wallace had 14 pts in over 40 minutes of playing time. Not all of which were while being guarded by Reed. You have an agenda. It’s ok. I wasn’t happy about the Arkansas thing either. I doubt he lives up to his draft pick. A lot of guys haven’t. I’m also not gonna bash him over one game.
I couldn’t care less about the Arkansas thing. I don’t even live in Kentucky so why would I have an agenda? Don’t care enough about it. I simply made an observation that the kid can’t guard. I even brought the receipts but for some reason, you can’t accept that reality.
 

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I couldn’t care less about the Arkansas thing. I don’t even live in Kentucky so why would I have an agenda? Don’t care enough about it. I simply made an observation that the kid can’t guard. I even brought the receipts but for some reason, you can’t accept that reality.
The “receipts” you brought showed 4 other guys on his team with a worse defensive rating for the game than he had. Does anybody think he’s a lock down defender? No. Was Cason Wallace torching him? No. That was my only point.
 
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What trade assets does Houston have to bring in a quality vet?
Not going to pick up a starter off waivers.

That’s the point I’ve been making all along. These Reed groupies keep denying the obvious. He’s lost defensively.
he also can't dribble or drive the ball. he gets scared and pulls up 30 feet from the basket and looks for a bail out.
 
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He kind of asked for it from the Kentucky fanbase. He’s rich he has a good life. But the way we love our players for life….. he knew what he was doing. I don’t hate the guy but I don’t look at him like I look at a lot of the players I love. He kind of put himself in the S Wheeler category when it comes to UK players for me. Not that it matters.
Speak for yourself. Only a small fraction of the fanbase wants him to fail. That doesn’t make them superfans, it makes them biligerent clowns.
 

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Oh no! They have social media accounts. They must be experts!

If your argument is that UK fans are “butthurt” about Reed, you can’t then attack the credibility of random NBA fans on twitter who have no connection whatsoever to UK. Why do they have to be experts? They are simply impartial observers who can see the obvious.

I’m no Reed hater. I think he’s a great kid from a great family, and a very heady player who has overachieved to this point in his basketball career. I also think he can’t guard a fence post. Both things can be true. Reed’s a big boy… he doesn’t need you or anybody else to defend his honor.
 

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If your argument is that UK fans are “butthurt” about Reed, you can’t then attack the credibility of random NBA fans on twitter who have no connection whatsoever to UK. Why do they have to be experts? They are simply impartial observers who can see the obvious.

I’m no Reed hater. I think he’s a great kid from a great family, and a very heady player who has overachieved to this point in his basketball career. I also think he can’t guard a fence post. Both things can be true. Reed’s a big boy… he doesn’t need you or anybody else to defend his honor.
Too funny. In your eyes, he can be attacked but it cant be pointed out that its petty for UK fans to wallow in any current defenciencies he might have and way too premature for others to do so. I’ve seen all I need to see so boom!


a baseball player named mattingly is shaking hands with a referee .
 
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Speak for yourself. Only a small fraction of the fanbase wants him to fail. That doesn’t make them superfans, it makes them biligerent clowns.
I don’t want him to fail. I didn’t like that he wore the shirt tho. We don’t have to worship him. Hes the one that did the clown **** if you ask me. I’ll speak for myself but there’s more than a small fraction with that opinion.
 
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I don’t want him to fail. I didn’t like that he wore the shirt tho. We don’t have to worship him. Hes the one that did the clown **** if you ask me. I’ll speak for myself but there’s more than a small fraction with that opinion.
Who worships him? Wtf? Take care since you need outrageous accusations that arent even true to try and make your case. Not interested.
 
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You seem FAR too excited to see Reed struggle for me to believe this. Theres an agenda here. Which is fine, just dont try and say youre rooting for him.

There’s UK fans that literally will tune in to hope they see him fail. “I’m a blueblood and I’m gonna defend this here dynasty, 18 year olds be danged!”


a man in a suit and tie is waving his hand in a crowd of people
 
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Who worships him? Wtf? Take care since you need outrageous accusations that arent even true to try and make your case. Not interested.
I’m not saying you do. But we can dislike what he did without wanting him to fail. It’s not that serious honestly whichever side you fall on.
 

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I also wish him no ill will but also no good will. He is no different that Isaiah Jackson in my eyes. Won nothing here and bolted after a few months. Then decided to throw in our face that Cal is the reason he even came here by wearing that god awful razorback shirt
 

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ngl. i’m rooting against reed and any former player that was openly pro Calipari over Kentucky at this point. They made their choice. **** em.
Right. People act like we are supposed to support that ****. I’m a UK fan. I don’t hope he fails but it is funny seeing him get roasted. By Houston fans at that. I didn’t know he was playing until the thread was made. I don’t keep up with the NBA like that and most definitely players I don’t support. **** em like you said 😂

Not butthurt to say you didn’t like what he did. The ones sticking up for him seem butthurt to me.
 

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It is also extremely embarrasing how much people are trying to find Twitter posts on Reeds performance.

.. especially praising Cason Wallace, who probably feels the same way about Kentucky as the majority of past players (cover your ears some of you):

Mostly indifferent.

All because of a pair of shorts or whatever. Oof.

Kentucky is unique in that many many players choose to live in Lexington even after they’ve been pros. The media basketball personalizes aren’t lying when they say Lexington and UK are different. Most players are not indifferent to UK, most players cherish their time here and want to be a part of it long later. After many years interacting with the players and being in Lexington/ traveling with the teams I can tell you for a fact that they are absolutely not indifferent.

Now are some of Calipari’s players indifferent? For sure. But even then many of them love their UK experience and being back.

Pope isn’t lying when he says even in the NBA they talked more of their Kentucky days. I’ve been told that exact statement by Tony Delk and Walter McCarty. Even for Calipari players, many of them aren’t indifferent, but yes some are. Cason Wallace might be one of those I suppose.

Kentucky really isn’t like anywhere else for basketball. It’s just different, and that’s at any level. I’d also add that Tyler Ulis is another that couldn’t wait to get back to Lexington by his own words. Over the years we’ll see a lot of Calipari players back as they always are. Some to live, some to work. Calipari is a lightening rod and decides the world by loyal servants and traitors, just his personality. Some of them will likely be cautious of that. Another reason I have mad respect for Pitino, he never asked his players to pick a side like Calipari seems to be doing. But Pitino actually cared about his players and their legacies here. I don’t believe Calipari does at all.
 
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Quite a high level game played by both teams. Especially for the opener.

I expect both to battle all season for the west title.
 
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There’s UK fans that literally will tune in to hope they see him fail. “I’m a blueblood and I’m gonna defend this here dynasty, 18 year olds be danged!”


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Nationwide, basketball buffs concur: Reed's got defensive issues. It's not about reveling in his setbacks; it's just a matter of breaking down the game. You need to ditch the cheerleader routine and take a trip around the block a few times to broaden your horizons.
 

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I’m not saying you do. But we can dislike what he did without wanting him to fail. It’s not that serious honestly whichever side you fall on.

Sure, I mean, i still find the whole thing so silly. But I can see how some people want to gripe about it. I just think it needs to end there.
 
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Reed wasn't some kid who grew up in NYC or LA, he was a Kentucky boy who's parents both played basketball at Kentucky. He should have knew better than to wear ANY attire of the team that Kentucky was playing on game day. I don't care if his former coach was coaching the other team. I don't believe his dad would've done that. I don't hope he fails in the NBA, I'm just indifferent to anything NBA. But him doing that sure changed my perception of him.
 
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There’s UK fans that literally will tune in to hope they see him fail. “I’m a blueblood and I’m gonna defend this here dynasty, 18 year olds be danged!”


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I seriously don’t think there’s a single person that is highly upset about the situation. But a lot of fans are probably gonna pick about it forever.

I can’t act like I wasn’t disappointed when he did that. Are passionate fans supposed to be sorry they care? That’s what makes Kentucky different.
 
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Cason had 14 points and Reed 9. Hardly a torching. As usual the agendas on this site are amazing. Get a life people.
 

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Reed wasn't some kid who grew up in NYC or LA, he was a Kentucky boy who's parents both played basketball at Kentucky. He should have knew better than to wear ANY attire of the team that Kentucky was playing on game day. I don't care if his former coach was coaching the other team. I don't believe his dad would've done that. I don't hope he fails in the NBA, I'm just indifferent to anything NBA. But him doing that sure changed my perception of him.

Isn't using his "legacy" to come play basketball here and help us win games (despite a coach hampering him), more important than wearing Arkansas gym shorts for an evening to support his coach?

It sure feels like he did his part for being a "Kentucky kid". Like, we got one of the best college basketball players to come here, when he could have went anywhere else, does his part, goes to the NBA (Where he 100% should have gone, there is no debating this topic).. and for ONE night he does something the fans don't approve of? That is some insane entitlement if you ask me. That's like a kid yelling at their parent for not washing their clothes correctly.
 

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Isn't using his "legacy" to come play basketball here and help us win games (despite a coach hampering him), more important than wearing Arkansas gym shorts for an evening to support his coach?

It sure feels like he did his part for being a "Kentucky kid". Like, we got one of the best college basketball players to come here, when he could have went anywhere else, does his part, goes to the NBA (Where he 100% should have gone, there is no debating this topic).. and for ONE night he does something the fans don't approve of? That is some insane entitlement if you ask me. That's like a kid yelling at their parent for not washing their clothes correctly.
Na don’t try to make it complicated it’s not like anything. He supported the rival team on game day. Get a shirt with Cal on it if that’s who he has to show support to. It’s not a big deal. Why does it have to be a big deal that a lot of folks didn’t like what he did. I did stupid things when I was 18. Folks judge me by that same stuff everyday. Life goes on. His choice to wear Arkansas gear on game day vs Arkansas.