Cats Ilustrated. The first domino has fallen

[noncomposmentis]

You're wrong, but it doesn't surprise me so many think that. We were intended to be better than other nations in that regard.

This notion is terrible and incorrect, both ethically and legally. We were and are an immigrant nation. That is not the way the constitution is framed or intended. If this were correct then anyone could murder them with impunity. "Right to life" wouldn't apply.

The wording does not say "Citizens".

There are two Due Process of Law Clauses in the United States Constitution. The first is found in the Fifth Amendment:

No PERSON shall be . . . deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

The second Due Process of Law Clause is found in Section One of the Fourteenth Amendment:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall . . . deprive any PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

There has to be due process to even correctly determine if people are here legally or not. The word "Citizen" is used in other contexts, so it's not like they didn't know the difference.

All I'm gonna say on it though. No need to derail the thread.

Yes and no. There’s some nuance to this that neither side (surprise!) wants to acknowledge.

 

[9N9]

Sorry, but I'm failing to understand the significance of this.

 

[9N9]

Is the site getting shut down?

 

[9N9]

What does this have to do with dominoes and why should we care? At all?

 

[deezbiguns]

What does this have to do with dominoes and why should we care? At all?

He’s saying it’s the first domino to this message board disappearing for good

 

[9N9]

He’s saying it’s the first domino to this message board disappearing for good

Thanks. Can’t believe this needed to he explained.

 

[Pygmy Sasquatch]

Thanks. Can’t believe this needed to he explained.

At seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in, he said "Fellas, it's been good to know ya"

 

[9N9]

At seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in, he said "Fellas, it's been good to know ya"

Superior, they said, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early

 

[Skyguyb27]

Why exactly would they want to shutdown the message boards? Seems to be all their little adds and pop ups would make them a lot of cash.

 

[ukwildcatwildfan]

The constitution and its rights apply to the citizens of America, illegals are not citizens of this country and have no rights under it, just like you have no rights in any other country in the world. Go move somewhere, enter illegally and see how it goes.

Don't debate me, debate the Constitution:

5th Amendment -- No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

It's fine if you want to change it, there's a process for that, but you can't just make stuff up!

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Don't debate me, debate the Constitution:

5th Amendment -- No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

It's fine if you want to change it, there's a process for that, but you can't just make stuff up!

I had a long reply here, but this thread is off topic and I won’t change your mind anyway. Back to our regularly scheduled program.

 

[Digger-Cat]

Superior, they said, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early

Sundown, you better take care, if I find you been…. oops, wrong one

 

[kywildcat1021979]

Speaking of NIL I saw where Shaq was taking the volunteer role as Sac St's GM because his boy is going to school there. I wouldn't mind to see one of our former player do something similar too this. I think we need it in the worst of ways with the ever changing landscape of college basketball.

 

[treyforuk]

Is it the one that has a giant orgasm with every swing?

Well,she is married to Andre.....the Giant.

 

[Digger-Cat]

Well,she is married to Andre.....the Giant.

Hopefully they don't live in an apartment building.

 

[UK’98UK’00]

You're wrong, but it doesn't surprise me so many think that. We were intended to be better than other nations in that regard.

This notion is terrible and incorrect, both ethically and legally. We were and are an immigrant nation. That is not the way the constitution is framed or intended. If this were correct then anyone could murder them with impunity. "Right to life" wouldn't apply.

The wording does not say "Citizens".

There are two Due Process of Law Clauses in the United States Constitution. The first is found in the Fifth Amendment:

No PERSON shall be . . . deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

The second Due Process of Law Clause is found in Section One of the Fourteenth Amendment:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall . . . deprive any PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

There has to be due process to even correctly determine if people are here legally or not. The word "Citizen" is used in other contexts, so it's not like they didn't know the difference.

All I'm gonna say on it though. No need to derail the thread.

So I’m sure you know “person” did not apply to all people in the US at the time.

 

[UK’98UK’00]

Thanks. Can’t believe this needed to he explained.

Why can’t you believe it? You think everyone is aware of what’s possibly happening with the message board? Can’t believe this has to be explained.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Welp if it's the end it's been real ya'll lol.

I've loved this board and coming here to discuss UK basketball with everyone. Sure there's other options out there, but I'd be bummed if it went.

 

[ukwildcatwildfan]

So I’m sure you know “person” did not apply to all people in the US at the time.

“Person” did apply to all “people.” It didn’t apply to property, including at the time slaves, which I’m assuming is the “exception” you’re referring to. Thankfully we’ve evolved since then. Unless there are still classes of humans you consider something less than “people”?

 

[WildcatNC]

So I’m sure you know “person” did not apply to all people in the US at the time.

Of course. It was amended later. Some want it back that way it seems.

 

[9N9]

Why can’t you believe it? You think everyone is aware of what’s possibly happening with the message board? Can’t believe this has to be explained.

There’s literally a thread above this one about Rivals being bought by ON3 out and rumors flying that this message board will be shut down.

 

[Ash Williams]

“Person” did apply to all “people.” It didn’t apply to property, including at the time slaves, which I’m assuming is the “exception” you’re referring to. Thankfully we’ve evolved since then. Unless there are still classes of humans you consider something less than “people”?

This is the argument from the same people who also argue that the second amendment ONLY refers to old fashioned muskets.

 

[wardlow]

When are the rest of the dominoes falling?

 

[CastleRubric]

what are we thinking it'll take for Domino 2?

About two weeks or somethin?

 

[ThwKentuckyKid]

Reading through this thread it might be best to go ahead and shut it down.

 

[Bluegrassking]

The constitution and its rights apply to the citizens of America, illegals are not citizens of this country and have no rights under it, just like you have no rights in any other country in the world. Go move somewhere, enter illegally and see how it goes.

The United States Constitution ALWAYS applies to the Federal government,

it is premised upon it and derives its authority from it in concert with the will if the people.

 

[Game Se7en]

Why can’t you believe it? You think everyone is aware of what’s possibly happening with the message board? Can’t believe this has to be explained.

One thing nobody will miss if this message board is shut down is snarky attitudes, lol.........

 

[UK’98UK’00]

“Person” did apply to all “people.” It didn’t apply to property, including at the time slaves, which I’m assuming is the “exception” you’re referring to. Thankfully we’ve evolved since then. Unless there are still classes of humans you consider something less than “people”?

Of course I don’t, unless I can include Duke and Indiana fans.

 

[UK’98UK’00]

There’s literally a thread above this one about Rivals being bought by ON3 out and rumors flying that this message board will be shut down.

Oh literally, as opposed to figuratively? Season isn’t in, recruiting mostly over, topics and threads less interesting. Forgive me if I haven’t read them all-literally.

 

[UK’98UK’00]

One thing nobody will miss if this message board is shut down is snarky attitudes, lol.........

Certainly true.

 

[9N9]

Oh literally, as opposed to figuratively? Season isn’t in, recruiting mostly over, topics and threads less interesting. Forgive me if I haven’t read them all-literally.

It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man by argument. Have a good day!

 

[DraftCat]

I did make a discord if you'd like to join https://discord.com/channels/1368339499402137680/1368339541760540783