Not me. Don't give 2 ***** about it when cc was done
***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***
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It’s been hilarious reading Threads. People just expect State Farm Arena to change their existing schedule to accommodate the Dream. There is a concert the night of Game 3 and the Hawks have a home game the night of Game 4. And people have the nerve to be pissed that the Hawks haven’t volunteered to change their game that has been scheduled and sold out for months. The sense of entitlement is off the charts with these idiots.
I hope the negativity affects their play and the Dream lose.
That's why I'm throwing lots of money on them to win the series. Gotta cover all bases to make sure this sh** doesn't happen, so we don't have to deal with that f***ing fanbase for the rest of eternity.
They don’t have a fan base.
Unfortunately, Angel Reese has enough of a fanbase for them.
They are praying, in the strongest sense of the word, that the Dream win the title so that they can take to the streets and flaunt it in the faces of any Caitlin Clark fan they come across.
It's that bad on social media right now.........
I've been out of touch the last few days regarding the W, and focusing on "The Business Of Basketball." Is it really that bad? Are barricades going up? Are folks stocking up on food? Lines at gas stations (regardless of the prices)?
That’s completely on brand for Reese. Couldn’t get past the Sweet 16 at Maryland so she transferred to LSU to get a ring with Kim Mulkey. Couldn’t even get to the playoffs with Chicago so she leveraged a trade to an established contender in Atlanta.
Meanwhile, Clark led Iowa to the only two championship game appearances in program history and has led Indiana to three straight playoff berths after they had failed seven years in a row.
I wouldn't exactly say Clark led Indiana to the 2nd of the 3.
I love how much the Reese fawning lasted after the FIBA world cup. Now we're back to her being the the villain in Clark's origin story.
That’s open to debate. But it’s worth noting that the Fever were 8-5 in the 13 games she played and 16-15 in the 31 games she missed. If they only win 6 or 7 of the 13 games she played, they might not have made the playoffs at all.
And that doesn’t even factor in the energy she and her fan base injected into the entire Fever organization. They were one of the bottom teams in the league in attendance prior to her arrival and suddenly started selling out. You can’t dismiss that home court advantage in some of their 16 wins with her on the bench.
I'll give way more credit to KM and AB and the hodge podge of point guards the Fever went through than "energy injected by the fanbase"
Nah, we tried to move past it. Her fans wouldn't let it go.
Where are you reading Reese fan opinions?
The Dream had won ONE playoff game in the 7 seasons before Reese arrived.
What exactly were they contending for?
They tied with Las Vegas for the second best regular season record in the league in 2025. Does that not count for anything?
The Fever had KM and AB and a serviceable point guard in 2023. They averaged 4000 fans per home game and won 13 games. The next season, with the same head coach and a virtually identical roster except Clark, Indiana won 20 games and reached the playoffs for the first time in 8 years. Clark changed the trajectory of the franchise. She and her fan base completely reenergized it and that momentum carried over into 2025.
And, again, without the 8 wins they tallied with Clark in the lineup, they probably don’t even make the playoffs in 2025.
I still think this is giving Clark way too much credit considering she wasn’t on the floor while KM was going so hard she was getting rhabdo.
Clark was part of the team. She was important, but saying she was the leader that year while sitting 30 games and everyone else putting in the work is a stretch.
In 2022 they were 5-31.
In 2023 they added Boston and were 13-27.
in 2024 they added Clark and were 20-20.
They then lost to the Fever without Clark. We can all bash on her as much as we want and she's a super unlikeable player but she's been exactly what that team needed to get to the next level. She's an excellent rebounder and defender. They already had an excellent guard court and were a physical team before her but this helped put them over the top.
This comment is fair - your others are primarily just oppositional defiance.
I also think the comments about Reese not leading Chicago to a playoff is a little unfair. She shows up that year, not even their highest draft pick, and is their only all star. Chicago trades away Mabrey and their best scorer is Chennedy Carter, a woman basically blackballed from the league. Year 2, they have no one and Reese is their only all star. Year 3, she's out of Chicago and Chicago has 0 all stars.
Meanwhile, Clark lands in a great spot with the 2023 1st overall pick and Kelsey Mitchell. Not saying Clark didn't make a big impact on the Fever, but I don't think anyone was walking into Chicago and making a big impact. They flat out stunk.
The Sky were a playoff team in 2023. The Fever finished 5 games behind them that season(1/8 of a season worth of wins is a large gap). The Fever flat out stunk worse when Clark joined. Since then the Fever’s winning percentage has doubled. While Reese was on the Sky their winning percentage went down both years. And the Dream finished with the same record this season as they did last season without her.
Reese is a good player when she plays to her strengths, but she does not raise the performance floor of her team.
In 2023 they were a sub .500 team and their top scorers were Kaleah Copper (all star), Courtney Williams, and Marina Mabrey. The top 2 scorers were gone by the start of the season and by the end of 2024 all three of them were gone.
Let's not act like they were the same team.
Excellent piece. Unfortunately, it will have zero impact on either the media, (who have their own agenda) or the "fans" who have already made up their minds that Clark is somehow responsible for what ills the league.
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Plain and simple. The players didn't want Clark in the league to begin with. Add to that, some in the media, who lack courage and fairness in their coverage so as not to create division among their viewers. And when the records began to fall at the hands of Clark, they really couldn't take it anymore, and things got physical. They didn't like the idea of someone new coming into the faux "Professional League" it claims to be, thereby exposing what they did as simply good, and maybe even mediocre. Through it all, Clark has been the "salmon swimming upstream", facing all the bulls*t the players and the league have thrown at her, with aid and assistance from select media outlets. Each time, she has emerged with class, dignity, and giving praise and credit toward her peers, many whom would not have done so to her.
That doesn't explain the Dream having the same exact regular season record last year as this year. My point is, she isn't a floor raiser like Clark is. She's a nice piece to the puzzle but not a keystone for a team. And she found a team that was already in really good shape to take her to the championship series. Clark's team was in bad shape when she joined, and three years later they're not in good shape because of some really bad contracts the team gave out.
So your point is that since she replaced the role previously held by Britney Griner (a 10x all star, and wnba champion) Reese is not a floor raiser?
Surprised there wasn’t a drop off there, instead she came in and was league DPOTY on a team that had the top 3 leaders in steals.
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As long as Cox, the Ticket Sales manager for Dallas remains as GM, expect more bad decisions resulting in more bad contracts. Go back to selling tix.
When was she selling tickets for Dallas?
And why do you think that is some blemish on her resume?
SIAP: Boston underwent arthroscopic surgery on her right knee yesterday. Lateral meniscus repair.
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