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SurgeOne

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No Bama, Michigan, Clemson, or Georgia. This is why Saban is crying so much. NIL has helped a few schools (Tennessee, Miami, ATM) but it hasn’t hurt the big dogs yet. Curious to see if it ever will.
Cmon Penn St fans- give at least $10 per month to a favorite sport or 3. You get what u pay for (or don’t pay for). Cheap bastards
 

PSUJam

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No Bama, Michigan, Clemson, or Georgia. This is why Saban is crying so much. NIL has helped a few schools (Tennessee, Miami, ATM) but it hasn’t hurt the big dogs yet. Curious to see if it ever will.
Michigan and Georgia are 13 and 14 in the article. Clemson and tOSU are "honorable" mentions. I think the big dogs are still using the brown paper bag technique and supplementing with NIL.
 

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Or become a Rose Sponsor at the Shore.



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Couple of issues with this "reception::"

1. "Lions Legacy Club" has been replaced by "Happy Valley United" although the reality is in name only;

2. guessing that the goal of the reception is to raise money which will be distributed to athletes. If so
a. is this for football only?
b. there is supposed to be a quid-pro-quo relationship between the sponsor/donor and the athlete. Not abundantly clear that one exists here. If that's the case:
i. how does the money get distributed? Coaches' decision? Probably not the greatest idea.
ii. there may be some unforeseen tax implications for the sponsors/donors.

But why am I worrying? Kraft has this fixed.
 

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PSUJam

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Couple of issues with this "reception::"

1. "Lions Legacy Club" has been replaced by "Happy Valley United" although the reality is in name only;

2. guessing that the goal of the reception is to raise money which will be distributed to athletes. If so
a. is this for football only?
b. there is supposed to be a quid-pro-quo relationship between the sponsor/donor and the athlete. Not abundantly clear that one exists here. If that's the case:
i. how does the money get distributed? Coaches' decision? Probably not the greatest idea.
ii. there may be some unforeseen tax implications for the sponsors/donors.

But why am I worrying? Kraft has this fixed.
I believe Lions Legacy Club is the football arm of Happy Vally United. Have to assume the money will be to support football only. Sport specific donations can be made on the HVU website. The rest is for lawyers to figure out, of which former player Stank is one.
 

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Michigan and Georgia are 13 and 14 in the article. Clemson and tOSU are "honorable" mentions. I think the big dogs are still using the brown paper bag technique and supplementing with NIL.

This also says ‘most ambitious’ - how do they quantify this?
 
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GrimReaper

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I believe Lions Legacy Club is the football arm of Happy Vally United. Have to assume the money will be to support football only. Sport specific donations can be made on the HVU website. The rest is for lawyers to figure out, of which former player Stank is one.
Not sure that Stankewicz is an attorney, but, on further reflection, probably doesn't matter. Appears that PSU has decided that it's just going to outright pay players.
 
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PSUJam

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Same difference.
Not really. When revenue sharing comes, and it is in the near future, NIL isn't going away. So the Universities will be paying the players and there will still be a huge push for fans to contribute to NIL.
 
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GrimReaper

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Not really. When revenue sharing comes, and it is in the near future, NIL isn't going away. So the Universities will be paying the players and there will still be a huge push for fans to contribute to NIL.
Except that NIL requires a quid pro quo i.e. the recipient has to provide something of value to the payor. So if a collective is simply pooling money and paying players based on instructions from a coach with nothing of commensurate value flowing back to the donor its the same as if donations to the athletic department were simply handed over to the players.
 

PSUJam

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Except that NIL requires a quid pro quo i.e. the recipient has to provide something of value to the payor. So if a collective is simply pooling money and paying players based on instructions from a coach with nothing of commensurate value flowing back to the donor its the same as if donations to the athletic department were simply handed over to the players.
If it's deemed legal then why not? The boosters know where their money is going.
 

Midnighter

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Why worry about NIL? All recruits care about is that you talk about ‘something’ and put people in the league….

😂

 
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Midnighter

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I saw this yesterday morning. Can't read it because of the paywall but the headline is frightening.



Read it. It’s purely hypothetical and speculative. Not to say it couldn’t happen, but seems like most Saudi investment in sports is in teams/franchises - not players (save C. Ronaldo). They could be a massive disruptor but I don’t see them being interested unless maybe Notre Dame or USC. They’re not gonna want to watch their investments in Tuscaloosa.
 
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PSU1969A

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Cmon Penn St fans- give at least $10 per month to a favorite sport or 3. You get what u pay for (or don’t pay for). Cheap bastards
NIL is purported to allow student-athletes to make money by allowing their names, likeness, etc. in endorsements, etc.

Hell! With tuition, room & board, fees, health insurance, Pell Grants, etc., they make more than I ever did in year working! And I paid for my own education at PSU.