Chris Mack
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This team looks like ten guys who got together in the park and decided to play b-ball
Mack's a good coach. I like him, but he's not a great coach--at least not yet.
And he lost this team. They looked more like dead men walking the last month or so than ten guys with heart and a common purpose.
You HOPE most of it was roster related. You start finding out now...
And he lost this team. They looked more like dead men walking the last month or so than ten guys with heart and a common purpose.
You HOPE most of it was roster related. You start finding out now...
Have you ever heard of youtube? Go look at his teams at Xavier athletic long guys who can dribble put it on the floor and take it to the rim.And shoot from 5 spots, He had more talent to work with at X than this overall team. All the above which was devoid of this squad our shooting was inconsistent.
Agree. Believe me, I’m disappointed with today’s outcome but those who wish to attack Mack - give me a break! Mack is damn good and we’re lucky to have him. When he gets some studs in here things will be different, it won’t be long!
Maybe,but maybe there were chemistry issues that plagued the team late half of the season. It's hard to overcome something like that late in the season.
Stupid people are judging Mack on the end of season when he had to take a hodge podge devoid of certain talent against teams like Duke,NC,Va,Syr,Fl.st with a certain level of talent that we did not have.
For a team and coach that prides itself on playing tough defense, giving up 86 points on 50% shooting to an offensively challenged Minnesota team is especially ugly.
Not Mack’s best day.
Not Mack’s best day.
I am not sure he lost the team, but he definitely couldn't find the right buttons to push. There are a couple of guys that didn't buy in defensively especially when they weren't effective offensively. They just happened to be the best offensive players. They both will look at the NBA which they should, but they have a really long way to go to play defense at that level.
Mack and his staff did a good job. Next year expectations change and by year three should be rolling.
Mack and his staff did a good job. Next year expectations change and by year three should be rolling.
IMO the day Sutton went into his funk is when the season ended. Don’t know what happened to him but he was a distant shell of himself the last third of the season. If he could have remained consistent the season could’ve been much different.
I agree with that. I also think King losing his confidence in his shot hurt the team too. To his credit, he continued to play hard, rebound well and play decent defense.
Coach Mack is a really good coach who will only coach better as he gets better talent. He was limited this year with what he could do as a coach. Next year WILL be better.
Mack did a great job. He returned one starter from an NIT team and had zero incoming recruits. That’s a bizarre sentence for an NCAA team.
That said, I question the style of the half court, pack line D come tourney time. I think it begs your players to get tight in elimination games at tourney time and boost confidence in the nervous opponent (see UVA). Teams that are more active and up tempo, rather than settle in and wait seem to get the juices flowing better in the hyper nervous environment. Other teams get confident in their outside shot vs. being worried about ball pressure. I don’t think that style plays well at tourney time... But again Mack did awesome this year.
That said, I question the style of the half court, pack line D come tourney time. I think it begs your players to get tight in elimination games at tourney time and boost confidence in the nervous opponent (see UVA). Teams that are more active and up tempo, rather than settle in and wait seem to get the juices flowing better in the hyper nervous environment. Other teams get confident in their outside shot vs. being worried about ball pressure. I don’t think that style plays well at tourney time... But again Mack did awesome this year.
Stupid, selfish play and lazy defense. Perry and Cunningham driving into bodies w/ no intention to pass. Out of position and watching 3's get cast.
The only guy driving and passing was MacMahon and he should have been the one spotting for the shot after Perry or Cunningham drove.
Perry has 0 IQ for the game. Williams should have been in to pull Minn bigs out of the lane. Akoy was needed to bring a little enthusiasm to the team. They played like they wanted to go home.
The only guy driving and passing was MacMahon and he should have been the one spotting for the shot after Perry or Cunningham drove.
Perry has 0 IQ for the game. Williams should have been in to pull Minn bigs out of the lane. Akoy was needed to bring a little enthusiasm to the team. They played like they wanted to go home.
Freshman year he looked like he was going to be a serious scorer before it was over.
This team had more ability than I thought it did coming into the year. We saw it with our own eyes. But it says something about players who play the way this group did down the stretch.
And it says something about a coach who couldn't (or wouldn't) do anything about it...
And it says something about a coach who couldn't (or wouldn't) do anything about it...
They were never the same after the Duke collapse. If the freshman coming in are as good as advertised and with the people who should be returning I would think sweet 16 would be a realistic goal.
I’m concerned that I don’t really see where he makes in game adjustments. In fact at halftime, they asked him if he was going to adjust to their 3 pt shooting and he said no. Going to stay with our game plan.
I really don't think he had the players to make adjustments. I also think the personality of this team changed after the Duke loss.
Examples are he never tried Enoch and Williams at the same time. Or he never had Sutton, Nwora and King on the floor.
It was a weird mix of players skills which made adjustment pretty tough. The ideal lineup would have gone bigger with Sutton, King and Nwora the 2nd half strictly from a defensive perspective.
The glaring holes in the team were a legit 2G and SF. He really had no options. Ideally King fills Sutton spot and Sutton slides into 2G. Size wise Fore and Ryan M are point guards but neither had those skills, Bigger guards that were skilled shot right over them with confidence.
That is why I think they badly need a grad transfer PG next year splitting time with Perry. Then get a legit PG in the 2020 class. That would allow DJ to be a 2G and Williamson to play the 3.
The glaring holes in the team were a legit 2G and SF. He really had no options. Ideally King fills Sutton spot and Sutton slides into 2G. Size wise Fore and Ryan M are point guards but neither had those skills, Bigger guards that were skilled shot right over them with confidence.
That is why I think they badly need a grad transfer PG next year splitting time with Perry. Then get a legit PG in the 2020 class. That would allow DJ to be a 2G and Williamson to play the 3.
IMHO they are lacking an inside post presence both offensively and defensively.
This team needs a complete influx of different talent period. Just watching this NCAA tourney and looking at some of these teams and comparing our current talent too them it's truly a hell of a job Chris did with them. This team lacked those quick twitch explosive athletic guys who can put it on the floor and go get a basket. Guys like Johnson we got coming in are that type cant wait
However we have one of those guys that fit that and looked the part but he had some kind of mental block this year VJ.
However we have one of those guys that fit that and looked the part but he had some kind of mental block this year VJ.
The only glaring talent deficiency this team had/has IMO is someone backing up Cunningham. And that problem continues into next season.
Otherwise, there were guys on this team who had the ability to fill their roles. For various reasons, most of them simply didn't get it done the last six weeks of the season; and for a couple of them, that went on the ENTIRE season...
Otherwise, there were guys on this team who had the ability to fill their roles. For various reasons, most of them simply didn't get it done the last six weeks of the season; and for a couple of them, that went on the ENTIRE season...
Well, that’s a head scratcher. If you think our post play is adequate you’re nuttier than I originally thought.
This team rarely got easy buckets from the post and only Williams offered any semblance of being a rim protector. But in your eyes we’re a different team with a back up point guard? Wow, whatever.
Most teams in this country would gladly take two guys like Enoch and Williams and try to make centers out of them. Hell, many of our prior teams would have. Otis George was the backup center on a freaking Final Four team.
That Pitino was "nutty"...
Spin, spin, spin...blah, blah, blah...Most teams in this country would gladly take two guys like Enoch and Williams and try to make centers out of them. Hell, many of our prior teams would have. Otis George was the backup center on a freaking Final Four team.
That Pitino was "nutty"...
Steven Enoch, class of 2015 4-star, #58 nationally
Malik Williamson, class of 2017 4-star, #30 nationally
Aidan Igiehon, class of 2019 4-star, #51 nationally
Love this stuff...
This teams talent problem was not at the 5 or 4 offensively your rankings show offensive they were pretty good. The problem with 2 of the 3 is they were clueless on defense. The glaring talent issue at the beginning of the season was at the 1,2,3 spots. Run those rankings. All three of those players played terrific except against the elite teams or teams with bigger more athletic players those positions. It was glaring difference in those games.
The value with next year's class is at the 2 and 3 spots while adding depth the to 4 and 5 spots. If no one leaves the PG is a glaring hole. Perry/Johnson would have to figure it out. If both Nwora and Enoch leave then depth has been erased. Then they would have to find a grad transfers at PG and SF or PF.
Not sure all the problem is players. So far Mack is getting the honeymoon pass. Next couple of seasons will say whether he deserves it or not.
Pressure to perform at UL not the same as at Xavier. Xavier more laid back. UL anything but that.
Pressure to perform at UL not the same as at Xavier. Xavier more laid back. UL anything but that.
We got 17 points and 11 rebounds out of the 5 spot from Enoch and Williams. That's pretty good production fro your centers. As others have said, the lack of production from the 2 all year, and Suttons disappearance over the last 10 games were the Cards undoing. Those two positions should be much more productive with the influx of talent the freshmen will bring next year.
Enoch was solid offensively for sure vs Minny. His post D is not an = to his O.
Minny had a size advantage everywhere. The PG was 6-8 doing whatever he wanted. Their bad shooters were still shooting over guys shorter than them and both Minny bigs Murphy and Oturo played bully ball against their defender the entire game.
This UofL team had 0 post season experience and was stitched together literally over the summer.
As far as arm chair QBing things - I may have done a couple things differently in the season, and that probably would have lead the team to going to the NIT lol
I would have started Enoch. I get it, early in the year he wasn't overly motivated it seemed, but he did respond after losing his position and I always thought Malik was better served as an energy guy off the pine. If you establish Enoch early, he has the ability to put other bigs on their heels and forces the opponent to figure him out.
I also would not have played Sutton heavy minutes the entire year. I would have used King more. For all his problems, he did rebound the ball and probably warranted more PT.
End of the day they over-achieved. We will now move on to a more traditional recruiting class and see how Mack cultivates that group, and where the program goes. That is when we will begin to find out if we got the right guy or not.
Minny had a size advantage everywhere. The PG was 6-8 doing whatever he wanted. Their bad shooters were still shooting over guys shorter than them and both Minny bigs Murphy and Oturo played bully ball against their defender the entire game.
This UofL team had 0 post season experience and was stitched together literally over the summer.
As far as arm chair QBing things - I may have done a couple things differently in the season, and that probably would have lead the team to going to the NIT lol
I would have started Enoch. I get it, early in the year he wasn't overly motivated it seemed, but he did respond after losing his position and I always thought Malik was better served as an energy guy off the pine. If you establish Enoch early, he has the ability to put other bigs on their heels and forces the opponent to figure him out.
I also would not have played Sutton heavy minutes the entire year. I would have used King more. For all his problems, he did rebound the ball and probably warranted more PT.
End of the day they over-achieved. We will now move on to a more traditional recruiting class and see how Mack cultivates that group, and where the program goes. That is when we will begin to find out if we got the right guy or not.
Enoch got benched because Mack stated he couldn't afford too lose him . Enoch was picking up fouls within the first 5 mins of games
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