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So fair to say Smackdown has zero Vince influence in it.

Tonight's show was awesome. Talking Smack was great. And the Miz threw up a great promo on Daniel Bryan (Shocking, I know)

But yeah, despite the obvious talent deficiencies, Smackdown is the better show now.
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That promo was super uncomfortable. Bryan started it but Miz destroyed him after that. You could tell Miz struck a nerve big time even before Bryan got up and walked off set.

Yeah, SD is the better show. Honestly, with Balor's injury, if you took KO off of Raw as well, it would be unwatchable.
 
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I forgot to mention that last week I sat next to Traci Brooks, former TNA Knockout and wife of Frankie Kazarian and spoke with her throughout the event. It was very cool. It was mostly about parenting stuff as she was with her little son (cool to see the family aspect of people watching their husband or dad wrestle as a heel) but got to talk about the Briscoes, wrestling during the Chris Benoit tragedy, smarks trying to get themselves over, TNA and a bunch of crap.

Which reminds me...how did TNA suck despite having so much talent? I never watched TNA but they had Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Bobby Roode, Austin Aries, Eric Young and many others. How do you piss that away?
 
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I forgot to mention that last week I sat next to Traci Brooks, former TNA Knockout and wife of Frankie Kazarian and spoke with her throughout the event. It was very cool. It was mostly about parenting stuff as she was with her little son (cool to see the family aspect of people watching their husband or dad wrestle as a heel) but got to talk about the Briscoes, wrestling during the Chris Benoit tragedy, smarks trying to get themselves over, TNA and a bunch of crap.

Which reminds me...how did TNA suck despite having so much talent? I never watched TNA but they had Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Bobby Roode, Austin Aries, Eric Young and many others. How do you piss that away?
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Traci Brooks got some big ol' boobies!

As for TNA it was a couple different things. First they got away from what got them "popular" (six sided ring, x division, ring action), they also pulled a WCW and weren't able to pay their talent. Once J.J. stepped away and Carter took over it went to hell in a hand basket.
 
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Which reminds me...how did TNA suck despite having so much talent? I never watched TNA but they had Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Bobby Roode, Austin Aries, Eric Young and many others. How do you piss that away?
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Take it away, Mike Tenay.



Basically, Corey Davis's boy Jeff Jarrett just couldn't stop hiring Vince Russo since they were buddies. TNA in 2004-06 where it looked like it was one big break away from becoming legit competition for WWE (and they got those breaks when they hired Christian and Kurt Angle) didn't have Vince Russo anywhere near it. I think Scott D'Amore of Team Canada fame did the booking. But right before Angle's non-compete clause from WWE ended, they replaced D'Amore with Russo. Things did not go well.

And then Hogan and Bischoff...shew.
 
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YourPublicEnemy said:
What would be your fantasy tournament pairing to determine an overall champ? Both brands included and NXT as well. Let's say 16 person?

Finn Balor
Seth Rollins
Shinsuke Nakamura
AJ Styles
John Cena
Samoa Joe
Dean Ambrose
Roman Reigns
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Randy Orton
Brock Lesnar
Cesaro
Austin Aries or Bobby Roode
Big E (just to have another big guy)
Bray Wyatt
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Good list...based on how Big Cass does in the 4 way bout next week I might swap him with Big E but at that point it's splitting hairs.
 
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What would be your fantasy tournament pairing to determine an overall champ? Both brands included and NXT as well. Let's say 16 person?

Finn Balor
Seth Rollins
Shinsuke Nakamura
AJ Styles
John Cena
Samoa Joe
Dean Ambrose
Roman Reigns
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Randy Orton
Brock Lesnar
Cesaro
Austin Aries or Bobby Roode
Big E (just to have another big guy)
Bray Wyatt
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Finn Balor
Seth Rollins
Shinsuke Nakamura
AJ Styles
Bobby Roode
Samoa Joe
Dean Ambrose
Roman Reigns
Kevin Owens
Big Cass
Cesaro
Austin Aries
Big E
Bray Wyatt
Chris Jerhico
Neville

I pulled Orton, Cena, and Brock.

Orton and Cena, time has passed.
Brock...I'm just bored with him and his show up when I want to ***.
 
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Just getting to watch Smackdown - was that a Carmella/Nikki Bella double turn or did I just imagine that?
 
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Finn Balor
Seth Rollins
Shinsuke Nakamura
AJ Styles
Bobby Roode
Samoa Joe
Dean Ambrose
Roman Reigns
Kevin Owens
Big Cass
Cesaro
Austin Aries
Big E
Bray Wyatt
Chris Jerhico
Neville

I pulled Orton, Cena, and Brock.

Orton and Cena, time has passed.
Brock...I'm just bored with him and his show up when I want to ***.
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Seed them so we can see what those match ups would look like.

You too, Wesley.
 
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Putting a legit grade to a guy like Arn is the hardest thing to do.

How in the hell did no one ever see that a horsemen split with him having the strap would be great f'n business? Arn/Flair could have easily been one of Flair's best feuds......and the mic work leading up would be some of the best ever, really.

What a crock of quano!
 
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YourPublicEnemy said:
Seed them so we can see what those match ups would look like.

You too, Wesley.
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In order 1-16

Seth Rollins
AJ Styles
Finn Balor
Kevin Owens
Chris Jericho
Samoa Joe
Shinsuke Nakamura
Bray Wyatt
Bobby Roode
Scott Dawson
Dean Ambrose
Roman Reigns
Cesaro
Austin Aries
Big Cass
Big E

That's hard as hell to do! I won't argue any disagreements with my rankings. Cases could be made to move anyone up or down the list. I think the top four are pretty solid though.
 
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Here's my 1-16 rankings

AJ Styles
Seth Rollins
Shinsuke Nakamura
Brock Lesnar
John Cena
Finn Balor
Randy Orton
Samoa Joe
Roman Reigns
Dean Ambrose
Kevin Owens
Bray Wyatt
Sami Zayn
Cesaro
Bobby Roode
Big Cass
 
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Putting a legit grade to a guy like Arn is the hardest thing to do.

How in the hell did no one ever see that a horsemen split with him having the strap would be great f'n business? Arn/Flair could have easily been one of Flair's best feuds......and the mic work leading up would be some of the best ever, really.

What a crock of quano!
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Flair and Arn actually had a small feud in the summer of 1995 that culminated at Fall Brawl. The weird thing about that is that the match was great. The promo work was even better - check out both guys' interviews from Fall Brawl. But both guys HATED the feud. They just didn't like the concept of wrestling each other. And the feud itself turned into an angle where Flair turned on Sting to reform the Horsemen with Arn, Brian Pillman and eventually Chris Benoit.
 
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1 A.J. Styles
16.Sami Zayn

8. Kevin Owens
9. Samoa Joe

5. Finn Balor
12. Bray Wyatt

4. Brock Lesnar
13. Cesaro

6. Shinsuke Nakamura
11. Dean Ambrose

3. John Cena
14.Big Cass

7. Roman Reigns
10. Randy Orton

2 Seth Rollins
15 Bobby Roode
 
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Smackdown has been the better show since the split.

I like Ambrose, but I hope that they put the title on Styles.

Rollins will likely win the Universal title, wish they would go with Owens though.

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Get Bobby Roode on the main roster now. Amazing
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Along with Joe and Nakamura.
 
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Any show where Heath Slater tries to get Arn Anderson as his partner automatically gets a Thumbs Up from me!!!

Kevin Owens is already one of my favorite wrestlers but this Tweet just makes it for me.



I have a Best of Bryan Danielson DVD I got from High Spots, seriously 6 DVD's of wrestling awesomeness.
 
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Here's one that can be used over and over again.

 
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Hell has frozen over.

I agree with BCf.

I may have to start drinking again.

KO would be fresh. He's over. He can work. He has charisma. He's a tweener. Marks hate him. IWC loves him. Cass just isn't ready.

How awkward was the psychology in the Gargano-Perkins match given that Gargano hadn't "hurt" his knee against Revival when the match was filmed? Just strange.
 
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So is there any chance we get a Miz/Bryan match at Survivor Series WM?

Also since Heath Slater is paired with Rhyno there's 7 teams in the tag tournament so who is the 8th? Do they call up a team from NXT?
 
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Wesley91581 said:
So is there any chance we get a Miz/Bryan match at Survivor Series WM?

Also since Heath Slater is paired with Rhyno there's 7 teams in the tag tournament so who is the 8th? Do they call up a team from NXT?
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Broken Matt and Brother Nero??? [laughing]
 
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Looks like those acting lesson have actually paid off for the Miz. I do agree with him on one thing, and he did not really come out and say it. He takes what ever storyline good or bad the WWE throws his way, and makes it the best story possible. I mean some of the bs they give him, it is tough for him to just not say "I am not doing this ****." Would love a Miz / Bobby Roode feud.

I just do not like Sammy Zahn, I gave it a fair shot, but just can't bring myself to like him. Can't put my finger on why.
 
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Looks like those acting lesson have actually paid off for the Miz. I do agree with him on one thing, and he did not really come out and say it. He takes what ever storyline good or bad the WWE throws his way, and makes it the best story possible. I mean some of the bs they give him, it is tough for him to just not say "I am not doing this ****." Would love a Miz / Bobby Roode feud.

I just do not like Sammy Zahn, I gave it a fair shot, but just can't bring myself to like him. Can't put my finger on why.
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Could it be because he is so....generic...O? [laughing] I know that's what it is for me. He's just blah

Agree on the Miz, same goes for Jericho as well. Roode vs Miz....could be a good feud.
 
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JasonSpear said:
so any chance that since all of Sasha, Eva Maria, and Paige are suspended that their careers will spiral out of control, they'll lose all their money, become a poor, get desperate and then agree to get nekkid and/or do some porn? I don't mean like Missy Hyatt and Sunny bloated/past their prime/disgusting stuff... I mean like within the next year or so.

That'd be grand.
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The odds are not in your favor.

I wouldn't mind seeing Sasha and Eva do a video/photo shoot. Paige is attractive I just wouldn't want to see that pasty white body naked...there are times in the ring when they get a shot with her legs spread and it looks like she forgot to wipe or somethin....
 
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