He would have adapted. Your arguments are comparing a 1970's Joe to modern CFB. That is apples to oranges. If NIL and the portal and paying players all burst on the scene in 1970 then Joe would adapt. He was a winner who was fiercely competitive. He would not sit idly by watching other programs race past him.
Cignetti no longer an option
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No. Joe would have reminded PSU football followers to re-lower their expectations
Mark Cuban. He owned the Mavericks. He is an exceptionally astute businessman who will take risks and understands the business of sports. He wants to win and it helps that he is worth $6 Billion.
Just the best program over a 50 year time frame 190-2000…but yeah…not good or consistently good.
They seem to have gotten very serious about their football. It's a brand new world.
99% of know Urban and Saban aren’t on the table. There is a lunatic fringe of course
I always like Fitzgerald as a person but Franklin was a nice guy, perhaps too nice to his players. But I’m sorry you don’t fire Franklin for not winning Big Ten and National Championships and replace him with Pat Fitzgerald.
Cuban was an IU student when the movie Breaking Away was filmed.
Lunatic fringe may be a bit strong. I'm one that believes no one is off the table until they say no. You'll never know til you ask. I wouldn't even want Saban and he would never take the job. Doesn't mean you don't try to talk to him. Maybe he can offer some advice.
I don’t need to hear from him. Since 2018, Urban Meyer has coached 13 football games. His team went 2-11. On and off the field he was a disaster. He’s publicly pitching Dan Mullen for the job. I’m good
I don’t disagree. You don’t fire Franklin just to hire Rhule, Fitz, or a lot of others. I agree that you have to go Saban or Urban just to make sure they both say no.
One problem with Fitz is he's out of the game. He doesn't have a recruiting class or pieces of his current roster to bring with him, same issue as Brady. Given the portal and NIL, it's a big handicap.
Somewhat disagree. You're not going to win it all in 2026, but you can certainly cause a significant amount of damage. Cignetti got Indiana to the playoff in year one and he inherited far less with the Hoosiers than the next guy is going to inherit here.
The schedule is about as weak as one could possibly hope for. OOC is a joke. The top 3 opponents are Michigan, Washington and USC. Highly unlikely any of those are top 10 matchups. Unlikely all 3 are even top 25. There's still no excuse to drop games against Wisconsin, Rutgers, Purdue, Minnesota, NW or Maryland. If we do it means the new staff did a really poor job in the portal/retaining the current roster, and doesn't bode well for the future.
Dropping 4+ games against next years schedule would put the new coach in a very deep hole.
Stupid money just got way crazier. Social Security will count against his buyout though .
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Hiring Fitzgerald would be lunacy.
What are we even doing here? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills
What are we even doing here? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills
Depends on who you ask. We are probably a top 5 job if you're talking to Matt Rhule or Al Golden.
Conversely, there are plenty of coaches from the south who would rather coach at Florida or LSU and have no interest in being north of the Mason Dixon line. Clemson, Florida, FSU and LSU have all won titles significantly more recently than we have.
That's all fair. I see 9-3 worst case but I didn't think we'd be 3-3 this year so...
“Coach runs the place.”
History repeats itself is so true. The Indiana AD has fallen prey to the dreaded FOMO (fear of missing out) disease. This is precisely what happened to former PSU AD Sandy Barbour when she panicked and got steamrolled by Franklin‘s agent.
That’s the one who intrigues me the most. Don’t know if he’ll ultimately be the best candidate, but his track record with Burrow and Allen is pretty impressive.
If that means he’s doing an exceptional job, then sure.
Their basketball has been mediocre for 30 years so only their older fans understand that they were a hoops power. They hit a grand slam with Cignetti and now are ready to go all in on football.
I am mostly agree, but he called a stinker of a game on Monday night! And it’s not necessarily his fault, but the bills have the same issue we have in terms of average WRs without a true burner.
That’s not why they fired CJF. He became intolerable, is why he’s gone
I’m not concerned as much with the fire as I am with the hire. I’d like to think there is a plan for both the remainder of the season and the search. I can’t say I have a warm and fuzzy feeling about Kraft. This is a crossroads hire.
The Bills franchise is well known for not being able to win the big games.
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None are perfect, and certainly the fact that he’s never been a HC matters. But we need a guy who can develop QBs, and he seems to be one of those guys. Again, he may not ultimately be able to get the job done, but he’d be an intriguing hire nonetheless.
A dream setup would be Campbell at HC and Joe Brady at OC. From what I can find Brady "only" makes $1.8M for the Bills. We pay more than that for coordinators!
Pegula can match whatever we offer and he's going to get a HC role soon
Doubt he'd even consider leaving Josh Allen to come here and coach an unknown QB--is anyone that stupid?
Don’t think Brady would come back to cfb to be a coordinator. Gonna have to make him HC to get him out of Buffalo.