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Jeffrey Cat

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Jan 29, 2005
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We have three man class for 2019. If possible it would probably be a good idea to to get another recruit for the class. This is probably a Heywood question. Is there any thought of bringing another recruit in for the class either in this country or in Europe, South America, or Australia.

I would think this would be the ideal time to bring someone in and then bring in one grad transfer.
 
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Catreporter

Senior
Sep 4, 2007
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The difference between football and basketball recruiting, especially at Northwestern, is like day and night. Chris is doing a great job getting some high profile players, but with all the under-the-table crap that goes on AND our academics, he is really hamstrung.
 
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NJCat

All-Conference
Mar 7, 2016
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Jeffrey Cat said:
College basketball unfortunately has become a can of worms.
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We just don't know how many kids are part of the scuzzy side of agents and shoe companies. My guess is that few of the kids NU recruits are in the crosshairs of either.
 
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Sec_112

Sophomore
Jun 17, 2001
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hdhntr1

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2006
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Fitzphile said:
We just don't know how many kids are part of the scuzzy side of agents and shoe companies. My guess is that few of the kids NU recruits are in the crosshairs of either.
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Too many. And maybe that is also another part of the reason why our pool is so small
 
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Titanium999

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Jan 16, 2014
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Catreporter said:
The difference between football and basketball recruiting, especially at Northwestern, is like day and night. Chris is doing a great job getting some high profile players, but with all the under-the-table crap that goes on AND our academics, he is really hamstrung.
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I hear ya!
 
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Medill90

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Jan 30, 2011
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Suggest that people take a look at Nebraska's roster....they've had a new head coach for five weeks...five transfers in that time have remade the roster....two are junior college players. He also told Nebby's freshman center one hour before a final that coach prefers he not come back.

That is what NU competes against.
 
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haywood jahblowme

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Aug 5, 2010
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the last i heard was NU as a whole was trying to get away from overseas kids who were not here for 4 years of high school. again, coming down to transcripts. some universities do not care. NU cares, and getting an overseas transcript to be an equivalent to the US is extremely hard
 
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mikewebb68

Senior
Oct 24, 2009
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Medill90 said:
Suggest that people take a look at Nebraska's roster....they've had a new head coach for five weeks...five transfers in that time have remade the roster....two are junior college players. He also told Nebby's freshman center one hour before a final that coach prefers he not come back.

That is what NU competes against.
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I hear ya, but probably not the greatest of examples, since, barring a minor miracle, Nebby will be flat-out terrible next year
 
Purple Pile Driver

Purple Pile Driver

All-Conference
May 14, 2014
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haywood jahblowme said:
the last i heard was NU as a whole was trying to get away from overseas kids who were not here for 4 years of high school. again, coming down to transcripts. some universities do not care. NU cares, and getting an overseas transcript to be an equivalent to the US is extremely hard
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So Overseas students have difficulty getting admitted to NU. It doesn’t seem that way when I am on campus. What am I missing?
 
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IdahoAlum

Freshman
May 29, 2001
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I think overseas athletes are hard to get through the NCAA clearinghouse. That’s the implication I got from reading the BYU story.
 
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willycat

Junior
Jan 11, 2005
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IdahoAlum said:
I think overseas athletes are hard to get through the NCAA clearinghouse. That’s the implication I got from reading the BYU story.
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Had some pretty good guys previously from Croatia and Serbia. What's changed?
 
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Dec 24, 2010
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It’s an interesting question. iirc both Mirk and Olah attended us high school at least a year, but guys like Vedran, Nikola, and Ivan came straight over afaik.
 
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mekCat

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Dec 31, 2005
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haywood jahblowme said:
the last i heard was NU as a whole was trying to get away from overseas kids who were not here for 4 years of high school. again, coming down to transcripts. some universities do not care. NU cares, and getting an overseas transcript to be an equivalent to the US is extremely hard
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Division I college tennis is full of foreign players. NU has 4 on the roster this year, 2 from Norway, 1 from England, 1 from the Czech republic. Plus American high schools are no where near the best in the world. So I don't see why this would be true for Bball.
 
Purple Pile Driver

Purple Pile Driver

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mekCat said:
Division I college tennis is full of foreign players. NU has 4 on the roster this year, 2 from Norway, 1 from England, 1 from the Czech republic. Plus American high schools are no where near the best in the world. So I don't see why this would be true for Bball.
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NU has 3 international players on its Women’s Golf roster.
 
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NURoseBowl

Junior
Jun 16, 2009
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Medill90 said:
Suggest that people take a look at Nebraska's roster....they've had a new head coach for five weeks...five transfers in that time have remade the roster....two are junior college players. He also told Nebby's freshman center one hour before a final that coach prefers he not come back.

That is what NU competes against.
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Jeez. Hadn't heard that story. If that's really what happened, I'll certainly look at that program differently than I did under Miles. That's not what college athletics are supposed to be.
 
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FightNorthwestern

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Oct 15, 2007
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mekCat said:
Division I college tennis is full of foreign players. NU has 4 on the roster this year, 2 from Norway, 1 from England, 1 from the Czech republic. Plus American high schools are no where near the best in the world. So I don't see why this would be true for Bball.
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I’d guess that the demographics of someone that plays tennis/golf is different from that of basketball players.

I know that soccer players in Europe are pretty much professionals from when they can walk and talk, and very few of the talented players will take studies seriously as there are more than enough professional teams in the continent to make a living. My guess is that the basketball players talented enough to warrant top conference scholarships are more or less similar.
 
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mekCat

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Dec 31, 2005
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My point is that is surely possible for NU admissions to figure out whether any foreign student's academic record is god enough. Including athletes such as basketball players. Being foreign is not an impediment.
 
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hdhntr1

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2006
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NURoseBowl said:
Jeez. Hadn't heard that story. If that's really what happened, I'll certainly look at that program differently than I did under Miles. That's not what college athletics are supposed to be.
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I liked Miles. Thought he handled thins with class
 
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hdhntr1

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mekCat said:
My point is that is surely possible for NU admissions to figure out whether any foreign student's academic record is god enough. Including athletes such as basketball players. Being foreign is not an impediment.
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Have to imagine that other schools have figured it out and we should be able to as well.
 
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No Chores

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Jul 2, 2006
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Purple Pile Driver said:
NU has 3 international players on its Women’s Golf roster.
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Yep, and take a look at NU's most recent men's soccer recruitng class - the majority are not from the U.S. Our best female swimmer is from Australia, and men's golf has at least 2 or 3 internationals like Luke Donald.
 
Purple Pile Driver

Purple Pile Driver

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NURoseBowl said:
Jeez. Hadn't heard that story. If that's really what happened, I'll certainly look at that program differently than I did under Miles. That's not what college athletics are supposed to be.
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What is going on with Nebby? Is generally perceived good guy Fred “the mayor” Hoiberg running off guys? Many of the Nebraska fans are building monuments to Fred and Frost. To heck with the kids the previous Coaches recruited, our Rock Star Coaches will upgrade and we’ll be the best team in the conference in both sports! Only a matter of time before we get to our rightful spot at the top. Brutal.
 
DaCat

DaCat

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May 29, 2001
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FightNorthwestern said:
I’d guess that the demographics of someone that plays tennis/golf is different from that of basketball players.

I know that soccer players in Europe are pretty much professionals from when they can walk and talk, and very few of the talented players will take studies seriously as there are more than enough professional teams in the continent to make a living. My guess is that the basketball players talented enough to warrant top conference scholarships are more or less similar.
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I think youth soccer and basketball are pretty similar in Europe. From an early age, the best players end up at clubs run by the pro teams, with academics taking a distant second priority. The top guys are drafted by the NBA, and the next tier usually move up to the pro teams. The remaining guys, with plenty of good players, may consider coming to the US for college basketball. My guess is that these are equivalent to mostly 3-star and some 4-star talent. But the question is whether they have the academic background, and English capabilities, to succeed at a school like NU.
 
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hdhntr1

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2006
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DaCat said:
I think youth soccer and basketball are pretty similar in Europe. From an early age, the best players end up at clubs run by the pro teams, with academics taking a distant second priority. The top guys are drafted by the NBA, and the next tier usually move up to the pro teams. The remaining guys, with plenty of good players, may consider coming to the US for college basketball. My guess is that these are equivalent to mostly 3-star and some 4-star talent. But the question is whether they have the academic background, and English capabilities, to succeed at a school like NU.
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If athletes in other sports can, why is BB different? As you say, they aren't usually 5 star talent so less likely to be looking directly at the pros
 
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DaCat

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May 29, 2001
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hdhntr1 said:
If athletes in other sports can, why is BB different? As you say, they aren't usually 5 star talent so less likely to be looking directly at the pros
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You need to compare basketball with the soccer system in Europe, and not necessarily other sports. In the US, you have high school and AAU/club, but in Europe if you want to play at a high level, you have to join a club that is basically a year-round commitment and in many cases sacrifice academics. Sure it can be done, but the best players typically turn pro when they are 18 or 19.
 
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willycat

Junior
Jan 11, 2005
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DaCat said:
You need to compare basketball with the soccer system in Europe, and not necessarily other sports. In the US, you have high school and AAU/club, but in Europe if you want to play at a high level, you have to join a club that is basically a year-round commitment and in many cases sacrifice academics. Sure it can be done, but the best players typically turn pro when they are 18 or 19.
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Also don't think most schools in Europe have basketball programs or any athletic programs for that matter.
 
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