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ru66

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pay Julie and flood severance and start anew--both can not recover and both have been ineffective
 

ArminRU

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nope--80% or more of the donors want her gone

If that's the case, then that works too. But I thought she was good with the donors since numbers have been up and with the baseball practice facility...
 

brgossRU90

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Op is desperate to see julie Hermann fired though never gives any good reason why another person's livelihood should be taken away.
 

zappaa

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Julie has been fabulous to me and extremely thoughtful as well.
My interaction with her has been great and it's all I have to go on
 

RUMBA-JK

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Just hope that one or the other - or both - have not left toxic piles of non-compliance poop all over the place to haunt the entire athletic program for years to come.

Hope that the outside NCAA compliance consultants are good at identification & even far better at favorable resolution & closure.
 
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ru66

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nope--unscientific but virtually everyone I know who gives significant $--says so--you can't ignore how bad this athletic department's reputation has become-- that soccer hire was not a big deal--he was already there in waiting and if the rumors are true, and I can't believe them--she's long gone--stop and think about it ,why would you keep them both--they are so tarnished and she's going to be gone anyway-- part of her hiding out for a while was out of fear for her own job
 

RURM85

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100% on Flood. Indifferent on Julie.

+1. JH is the crazy aunt the family stuck in the attic. I'm sure she's a wonderful person, however, this job, which should include dealing with the media, and being the face of the Athletics program, is at this time too big for her. It was very telling when Barchi handled the suspension and conducted an interview on BTN.
 
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I'd prefer her to stay but if it was necessary I'm ok with letting her go provided it's a real clean sweep and not just for show and that we get fresh new faces in the athletic department and coaching staff. I don't want any of the old guard from an inept to at best mediocre athletic department and coaching staff. Anyone trying to affect real change and improvement will just run into the same issues unless a real purge of those entrenched interests happens.

Want to turn the page, fine but don't look to the past. Complete fresh start.
 
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Roy_Faulker

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What will be so disappointing is it rectors gets slapped with sanctions for self-reported infractions when schools like Miami and North Carolina can get away with murder…oh and don't forget PSU
 

ru66

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can the obsessed julietards stop---she has not been a whirlwind success and many say so--we need talented, proven people that can pull us out of this morass--if you think she can save this AD after all her missteps and her terrible rep with the press you must believe your pulling a royal flush on your next hand--she sits at the head of a failed enterprise and she should stay? who cares if she is likable to some
 
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tico brown

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Agree about Flood, don't know about the AD. I'm out of the loop so I may be wrong but didn't Herman wanted to fire Flood a few years back but was told no? If this is the case, what potential AD would want to work like this: to be fired over something that she was right years beforehand? Or cant function as a true AD while being handcuffed by admin for reasons. Doesn't hurt the her that one of the hires that she was allowed to make is in the Soccer Final Four.

I know shes not popular with the media but...Is it because she can't get the donations number as high as people thought she would? Is she a horrible person towards fans, alum, others?
 

bac2therac

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Rutgers is going to be firing its 4th AD in 8 years. This isnt a Julie Hermann problem. Its a Rutgers problem and it goes beyond Barchi. If you think removing Julie fixes the problems you are fooling yourselves. All we are doin is solidifying the various fiefdoms power at Rutgers. Its only going to get worse when the Big 10 money rolls in.
 
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I'd prefer her to stay but if it was necessary I'm ok with letting her go provided it's a real clean sweep and not just for show and that we get fresh new faces in the athletic department and coaching staff. I don't want any of the old guard from an inept to at best mediocre athletic department and coaching staff. Anyone trying to affect real change and improvement will just run into the same issues unless a real purge of those entrenched interests happens.

Want to turn the page, fine but don't look to the past. Complete fresh start.

This.

The whole department should be swept out if she goes. Either by the interim AD or within the first ninety days of the new hire. Gives the new AD a chance to start fresh and allows the legacy of backbiting, leaks,and general ineptitude to be a thing of the past.

If you can't gradually change the culture, create a new one with the new hire.
 

bac2therac

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can the obsessed julietards stop---she has not been a whirlwind success and many say so--we need talented, proven people that can pull us out of this morass--if you think she can save this AD after all her missteps and her terrible rep with the press you must believe your pulling a royal flush on your next hand--she sits at the head of a failed enterprise and she should stay? who cares if she is likable to some

Its interesting that you have had venom against Julie since she was hired but hav not had one bad one word to say about Flood despite his shitshow. You reek of agenda and everyone knows it
 
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Rutgers is going to be firing its 4th AD in 8 years. This isnt a Julie Hermann problem. Its a Rutgers problem and it goes beyond Barchi. If you think removing Julie fixes the problems you are fooling yourselves. All we are doin is solidifying the various fiefdoms power at Rutgers. Its only going to get worse when the Big 10 money rolls in.

Essentially letting the lunatics run the asylum.
 

bac2therac

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Yes everyone at that department needa to go including any leftovers from Bob and Tim
 

Knight Shift

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Rutgers is going to be firing its 4th AD in 8 years. This isnt a Julie Hermann problem. Its a Rutgers problem and it goes beyond Barchi. If you think removing Julie fixes the problems you are fooling yourselves. All we are doin is solidifying the various fiefdoms power at Rutgers. Its only going to get worse when the Big 10 money rolls in.
Speculating that she is going to be fired or you know?
 

ru66

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bac stop this BS--you're acting like a baby who can't get his way- you define venom as any reasonable interpretation of her tenure here--venom?--I doubled my already significant donation to RU during her stay and her pleading unlike some who just bs and want to take their ball and go home--I always wanted no one fired and all to succeed--but a real fresh start is needed without "dead wood" lying around
 

batts

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Jun 6, 2001
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"The crazy aunt the family stuck in the attic". Lol Funny metaphor.
 

graystork

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Hey Bac, after Julie gets fired, are you going to go back to your old Mike Rice, "We have to be comfortable in chaos" signature?
 

rutgersnyc

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Flood out. Neutral on JH. But the gang crime spree is reason to fire everyone. Only problem - a poor university goes deeper into debt paying all of this off. Fire them for cause and make them sue.
 

ru66

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for three years she has embarrassed this university in the press--you are the joke
 

BeKnighted_rivals

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Rutgers is going to be firing its 4th AD in 8 years. This isnt a Julie Hermann problem. Its a Rutgers problem and it goes beyond Barchi. If you think removing Julie fixes the problems you are fooling yourselves. All we are doin is solidifying the various fiefdoms power at Rutgers. Its only going to get worse when the Big 10 money rolls in.

This is a key point, whether or not you think Hermann has been any good. It's a huge problem when there's no stability at the top and when - as obviously happened with Hermann - people inside the department are allowed to have agendas different from what the boss says.

If, as seems to be the case, she goes, whoever takes over for her will need to have the power to reshape the department completely if that's what the new AD thinks is necessary. Otherwise, we're going to be in the same situation again.

Of course, one problem in getting someone who can do that effectively is that it's hard to see why a really great candidate would go to RU at this point. I bet the people who were in the running last time are thanking their lucky stars that they didn't get the job.