Clearly C Collins Evil eye needs to relax a bit
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Watched Virginia whip Syracuse last night. Cavs shot 18 3's to burn the fabled Orange 2-3 zone. Was into watching Tony Bennett, the VA coach. Dude is very cool, never screams and hollers at his kids or the refs, yet the kids seem to do OK. Quite a contrast with Jim Boeheim, the master of the whiney expressions and constant commentary with the refs. Would like to see Collins chill a little and let his team play rather than obsess over every possession.Let the kids play through their mistakes. Dude, you are killing the confidence of the players.
Let the kids play through their mistakes. Dude, you are killing the confidence of the players.
I think there is a balance but CC does seem to pull kids or get on them quick. Team has played tight all year and even CC has said that they are better shooters than they are showing. Not sure it’s CC but I think he pulls kids quick other than Law, Pardon.
The vast majority of college coaches pull underclassmen when they make mistakes; about as much merit to thus claim as the claim that CC overuses his players, which Haywood obliterated.
Izzo just pulled Casius Winston in the second half. He told Molly McGrath after halftime that he didn't want any more turnovers, and Winston threw and bad alley-oop and Izzo yanked him.
Yeah, I didn't even mention coaches like Izzo and Underwood, who pull EVERYONE who makes mistakes.
Maybe CC pulls young players too quickly, but the biggest example of him needing to pull back on the emotions a bit was getting that technical on the missed goal-tending call against Gonzaga.
While it was totally understandable to be upset about it, that wasn't the time to get on the refs (at least not like that).
While it was totally understandable to be upset about it, that wasn't the time to get on the refs (at least not like that).
That was horrendous officiating by the refs. Wheb you make a terrible mistake like that, you don't compound it by giving the coach a T in a tight game. You just don't
^ Yeah, it was a horrible call, but as the head coach, you don't compound a terrible mistake like that by getting a technical and pretty much letting the team's chance of a comeback slip away.
If a player had reacted like that (which they didn't; having more composure), we (or at least most of us) would have said that the player needed to have more composure (and awareness) in such situations and not let his emotions control him.
That hold's even more so for the coaches (and in particular, the HC) - who is supposed to set an example for the team, much less, place the team in a position to win.
Would advise you watch the post-game interview of BMac - where it was pretty clear that he wished that CC didn't react the way he did and get that tech.
Yeah, some emotion at times is a good thing, but in most instances, you want your leader to be cool, calm and collected under pressure situations.
If a player had reacted like that (which they didn't; having more composure), we (or at least most of us) would have said that the player needed to have more composure (and awareness) in such situations and not let his emotions control him.
That hold's even more so for the coaches (and in particular, the HC) - who is supposed to set an example for the team, much less, place the team in a position to win.
Would advise you watch the post-game interview of BMac - where it was pretty clear that he wished that CC didn't react the way he did and get that tech.
Yeah, some emotion at times is a good thing, but in most instances, you want your leader to be cool, calm and collected under pressure situations.
^ It was by the letter of the book; so if it was definitive, it was the other way.
No way a HC should risk whether the refs were going to swallow their whistle to make up for their own mistake (esp. when refs are known not to do that, esp. in the case when the HC is yelling at them).
No way a HC should risk whether the refs were going to swallow their whistle to make up for their own mistake (esp. when refs are known not to do that, esp. in the case when the HC is yelling at them).
How many technical fouls has CC gotten his entire time here? Do you think he knows the line and not to cross it? The NCAA stepped in and announced their mistake immediately and reprimanded the refs for a reason...
He ran out onto the court during play. He was halfway to the foul line. Sorry, but even Coach K gets a T for that.
Rewatch the video. He stopped play.
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/video-gonzaga-referees-win-northwestern-article-1.3002346
It was the refs who altered the direction of that game. Rarely does one see as egregious a goal tend at that. If the refs missed the hand in the cylinder, the Gonazaga player provide a helpful reminder by then pulling on the rim from inside the cylinder.
Better if Collins didn't go nuts? Sure. But the refs stopped NU in its tracks and took two points off the board before blowing the whistle on Collins.
The T is not why NU lost. The T was a symptom of the officiating that game. Number one team in the country versus Cinderella. Second half, Cinderella outplayed number one and the refs brains could not accept what their eyes were seeing.
Better if Collins didn't go nuts? Sure. But the refs stopped NU in its tracks and took two points off the board before blowing the whistle on Collins.
The T is not why NU lost. The T was a symptom of the officiating that game. Number one team in the country versus Cinderella. Second half, Cinderella outplayed number one and the refs brains could not accept what their eyes were seeing.
It was the third egregious non-call against NU and the second non-call on goal tending, all in just a few minutes of play. It wasn’t a one off, it was a last straw.
Right, and remember, too, that at the time, the refs thought their call was correct. Against that backdrop, Collins' histrionics could hardly have resulted in anything but a T. If they'd known instantly that they were wrong, one of them would've stepped in and overruled the call.
He only "stopped play" due to the fact that the ref did not do as he is taught, Instead of racing to his spot that would have been away from Collins near the VISITORS bench since their was a transition opp for Gonzaga, he lingers, and almost runs right into Collins. I've seen countless coaches come onto the court and not get T'd because the ref got to his spot and simply didn't see the coach because the ref was concentrating on the game action as he should be. Now, if the ref races to his spot, and Collins follows him, then of course he has earned the T. But the ref was almost waiting for Collins to react instead of racing back in transition, and T'd him up. Horrible officiating in what was overall one of the worst officiated tournament games that I can recall. Again, the NCAA does not apologize frequently apologize after games for bad officiating; this game was barely over before an apology was issued. To blame CC for that T is just bizarre, imo.
The NCAA apologized for the refs missing the goal tend call and not for the ref T'up CC (the NCAA actually backed up the ref for calling the T).
And one doesn't run onto the court and risk getting a T (exacerbating a negative turn of events at a crucial time), esp. when this was the case...
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-northwestern-but-thats-not-helping-wildcats/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...es-missed-call-northwestern-gonzaga/99367820/
Doesn't matter if CC had gotten a # of technical fouls prior or none at all.
Don't run the risk of getting one at what was the most crucial time in NU basketball history.
And apparently, he knew that he was dangerously getting close to the line all game.
This doesn't mean that the refs didn't suck, but you don't make a bad situation worse.
Again, if a player had reacted in that manner (running up to the ref, gesticulating wildly) and got hit w/ a T, many of us would be saying that he needed to act w/ more composure (cooler head), understanding what was at stake.
And one doesn't run onto the court and risk getting a T (exacerbating a negative turn of events at a crucial time), esp. when this was the case...
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-northwestern-but-thats-not-helping-wildcats/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...es-missed-call-northwestern-gonzaga/99367820/
Doesn't matter if CC had gotten a # of technical fouls prior or none at all.
Don't run the risk of getting one at what was the most crucial time in NU basketball history.
And apparently, he knew that he was dangerously getting close to the line all game.
This doesn't mean that the refs didn't suck, but you don't make a bad situation worse.
Again, if a player had reacted in that manner (running up to the ref, gesticulating wildly) and got hit w/ a T, many of us would be saying that he needed to act w/ more composure (cooler head), understanding what was at stake.
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Tl/dr, but link to the NCAA "backing up" the T? FYI, in the Illini game tonight. Brad Underwood was on the court multiple times, with no T. This happens a lot