Climate Change Nightmares Are Already Here

[CatDaddy4daWin]

Can we continue to ignore what is right in front of our face?

Historians may look to 2015 as the year when **** really started hitting the fan.

Some snapshots: In just the past few months, record-setting heat waves in Pakistan and India each killed more than 1,000 people. In Washington state's Olympic National Park, the rainforest caught fire for the first time in living memory. London reached 98 degrees Fahrenheit during the hottest July day ever recorded in the U.K.; The Guardian briefly had to pause its live blog of the heat wave because its computer servers overheated.

In California, suffering from its worst drought in a millennium, a 50-acre brush fire swelled seventyfold in a matter of hours, jumping across the I-15 freeway during rush-hour traffic. Then, a few days later, the region was pounded by intense, virtually unheard-of summer rains. Puerto Rico is under its strictest water rationing in history as a monster El Niño forms in the tropical Pacific Ocean, shifting weather patterns worldwide.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...mares-are-already-here-20150805#ixzz3i3D96WGr

 

[mashburned]

You like Rolling Stone?

 

[-LEK-]

Its data manipulation

 

[LordEgg_rivals16573]

i sure wish they would cover college rape

 

[WildcatfaninOhio]

Ohio had record high rainfall for the month of June this year. This was a direct result of global dampening.

 

[BlueRaider22]

I personally feel that we are going through a change in climate......call it "Global Warming" if you want to, I don't care. However, I do think it's incredible arrogance to think that mankind has caused it........nor that they think they can do something to stop it. The Earth has gone through numerous climate shifts throughout it's history. To me the human race can simply learn to adjust to it or perish by it.

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

I think it's arrogant to believe that man can't influence the climate.

It's hard to manipulate what people are seeing with their eyes. Keep your head in the sand though.

 

[mashburned]

Enlighten us, please. You can't stop there.

 

[Big_Blue79]

"dampening" can have two meanings. Did you mean global moistening or global reducing?

 

[Deeeefense]

Its data manipulation

and they're just trying to scare us to get grant money

 

[UKGrad93]

I've got low 80's, clear skies, and a light breaze. Perfect day if you ask me. Those other places sound horrible. Those people should move, but not to my neighborhood. I don't want it to get too crowded here.

 

[Bigtyrone]

Don't forget we have a black president.

 

[BlueRaider22]

I think it's arrogant to believe that man can't influence the climate.

It's hard to manipulate what people are seeing with their eyes. Keep your head in the sand though.

The average Boy Scout will tell you, "Leave the outdoors in better shape than you found it." This is usually meant to generally be respectful of the environment.

So, yes, I do think that if there is a better way of doing things.....say like recycling waste rather than plugging it in a landfill......then it makes sense we should. However, if you think that mankind somehow has the power to prevent the Earth from going through it's natural climate cycles????? Then, I'm not the one with my head in the sand.

 

[Deeeefense]

The Earth has gone through numerous climate shifts throughout it's history .

That's true but those changes occurred over the course of 10s or even 100s of thousands of years so adaption was easy and almost unnoticeable. The current situation is extremely radical changes in climate over a few decades. There are no "natural" explanations for what we see happening.

 

[Mojocat_rivals48469]

hide the hockey stick....

 

[JHB4UK]

Can I? Sure can. Just flipped the switch on a few more lights, cranked up the ceiling fan. Increase my homes demand for electrons, and the local utility will see the rise & burn more coal.

This topic sucks, and has for the last 25 years. Wanting a clean environment used to be a universal goal that everyone in this country worked on together on a bipartisan arm & arm basis. In the 60's and 70's great steps were taken to clean up/stop littering, dirtying of rivers, clean the air. And then political ***** like Al Gore decided to use global warming as a wedge issue to get him & his ideology more power while decreasing the power of those opposed too him.

This article is complete crap. No better than the typical Cat Paw thread in January or February BOY IT SURE IS COLD OUTSIDE, WISH WE HAD US SOME GLOBAL WARMIN' RIGHT ABOUT NOW!!! Bunch of anecdotal observations shotgunned around recklessly by the same morons who haven't made a correct "climate change" prediction yet.

Carbon dioxide is plant food fwiw

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

The average Boy Scout will tell you, "Leave the outdoors in better shape than you found it." This is usually meant to generally be respectful of the environment.

So, yes, I do think that if there is a better way of doing things.....say like recycling waste rather than plugging it in a landfill......then it makes sense we should. However, if you think that mankind somehow has the power to prevent the Earth from going through it's natural climate cycles????? Then, I'm not the one with my head in the sand.

Of course we have the power to affect the earth's natural cycles. The Earth will adjust but those adjustments aren't necessarily going to be good for us. I do like how you changed it from influence to prevent because of course you can't prevent the earth from it's natural cycles but you can absolutely affect it.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

I think it's certainly possible that mankind can have an effect on the weather, and it's an absolute fact in some cases (see acid rain, smog). I'm not sold on the extent of the impact mankind has on the weather in general though. Yes it's getting hotter, how do we know mankind caused it? As far as best we can tell with science, the weather has fluctuated between much colder periods and much warmer periods even before mankind was destroying the o-zone layer and what not.

See the Little Ice Age from about 1300 to 1850, long before the age of industrialization in which mostly all the crap causing so-called manmade climate change came to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

And see the Medieval Warm Period from about 950 to 1250, also long before the age of industrialization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

And of course climate.gov has a good breakdown of the warm and cold periods from Earth's history https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-hottest-earths-ever-been

 

[LordEgg_rivals16573]

does someone have a list of people that agree with them? this thread is nothing without a list.

 

[Big_Blue79]

Unlike the previous Paddock threads on climate change, this one could go somewhere.

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[BlueRaider22]

Of course we have the power to affect the earth's natural cycles. The Earth will adjust but those adjustments aren't necessarily going to be good for us. I do like how you changed it from influence to prevent because of course you can't prevent the earth from it's natural cycles but you can absolutely affect it.

"Influence vs prevent" are your words. All my posts in this thread are unedited......and I never used the word influence.

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

Can I? Sure can. Just flipped the switch on a few more lights, cranked up the ceiling fan. Increase my homes demand for electrons, and the local utility will see the rise & burn more coal.

This topic sucks, and has for the last 25 years. Wanting a clean environment used to be a universal goal that everyone in this country worked on together on a bipartisan arm & arm basis. In the 60's and 70's great steps were taken to clean up/stop littering, dirtying of rivers, clean the air. And then political ***** like Al Gore decided to use global warming as a wedge issue to get him & his ideology more power while decreasing the power of those opposed too him.

This article is complete crap. No better than the typical Cat Paw thread in January or February BOY IT SURE IS COLD OUTSIDE, WISH WE HAD US SOME GLOBAL WARMIN' RIGHT ABOUT NOW!!! Bunch of anecdotal observations shotgunned around recklessly by the same morons who haven't made a correct "climate change" prediction yet.

Carbon dioxide is plant food fwiw

Ignorance is bliss. It just cracks me up how upset people get over this. Those daggum scientists and people with eyes don't know notin!

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

Sad part is in 10-15 years you'll be bitching about how the government knew all this and didn't do anything about it!

 

[WonderBraa]

"The weather is weird today....must be climate change"

 

[Kooky Kats]

Zimbabwe scientists....

 

[AustinTXCat]

I've got low 80's, clear skies, and a light breaze. Perfect day if you ask me. Those other places sound horrible. Those people should move, but not to my neighborhood. I don't want it to get too crowded here.

[laughing]

 

[AustinTXCat]

Unfortunately, since Toasted Anus is currently banned, his comprehensive list is unavailable.

FIFY.

 

[Big_Blue79]

Zimbabwe scientists....

I know I wouldn't even let those guys change the oil in my car.

 

[*CatinIL*]

Give the government time and we'll be taxed so that each cow in the US can be equipped with a methane collector...

 

[DSmith21]

 

[BlueRaider22]

Sad part is in 10-15 years you'll be bitching about how the government knew all this and didn't do anything about it!

Actually I will be thrilled that the Gov't left at least 1 topic alone and didn't try to micromanage everything. Plus, in 10-15 yrs I'll be decently old and likely will enjoy the warmer weather. Heck, I may not even have to move to Florida.

 

[ekywildcat_rivals26726]

You want to blame droughts and forest fires on climate change and yet when someone in the other climate change threads say "oh, it's been a really cold winter or whatever" you say that's just weather not climate change. Difference please.

All these dumba$$ rules that Obama has the EPA come up with are useless as long as China and India and practically every other country in the world don't give two $hits about carbon emissions are useless.

 

[cat_in_the_hat]

That's true but those changes occurred over the course of 10s or even 100s of thousands of years so adaption was easy and almost unnoticeable. The current situation is extremely radical changes in climate over a few decades. There are no "natural" explanations for what we see happening.

That's not true from what I have read. For example, in the mini ice age that started around 1300, there was apparently substantial cooling over the course of 50 years or so. I mean cooling to the point of where, in some northern areas of Europe, they stopped having warm summers. We haven't seen anything like that. Climate can change pretty quickly. That's not to say that humans aren't having some influence on the rate of change, but I'm skeptical that humans can significantly control whatever change is on the horizon.

 

[domino79]

I'm really trying to muster up the appropriate level of outrage, but my white privilege won't let me.

Also, Hitler.

 

[dgtatu01]

I think it's certainly possible that mankind can have an effect on the weather, and it's an absolute fact in some cases (see acid rain, smog). I'm not sold on the extent of the impact mankind has on the weather in general though. Yes it's getting hotter, how do we know mankind caused it? As far as best we can tell with science, the weather has fluctuated between much colder periods and much warmer periods even before mankind was destroying the o-zone layer and what not.

See the Little Ice Age from about 1300 to 1850, long before the age of industrialization in which mostly all the crap causing so-called manmade climate change came to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

And see the Medieval Warm Period from about 950 to 1250, also long before the age of industrialization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

And of course climate.gov has a good breakdown of the warm and cold periods from Earth's history https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-hottest-earths-ever-been

That climate.gov link had this chart of climate for the last 11300 years (mankind's history) which may make me change my mind.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

All these dumba$$ rules that Obama has the EPA come up with are useless as long as China and India and practically every other country in the world don't give two $hits about carbon emissions are useless.

Exactly! Why should we try and clean up the planet and reduce pollution if no one else does. We aren't influential enough in the global community to lead by example, so why try?

 

[Kaizer Sosay]

WHERE IS THE LIST???!!!???

 

[ALL IN YOUR FACE]

OP is prime example of "Global Dumbing" and this is by far our biggest threat.

 

[LordEgg_rivals16573]

why did Zoo Optometrist get banned....again?

 

[wildcat1973_rivals160373]

Bottom line, an asteroid or comet will smash into the Earth at some point in time, and life as we know it will pretty much cease to exist. Could happen tomorrow. Or next week. Or 1000 years. But it will happen.