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I personally don't think it's some racist ploy that liberals are melting down about...I think it's because of the insane zero tolerance policies schools have
I think this is similar to the expulsion of the child who nibbled a chicken nugget into the shape of a gun. A blanket policy just doesn't work in the real world.

I actually am impressed that the kid had the ability to make a functional clock from parts. Some things that seem simple aren't when you look a little closer.
 

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You act like there isn't another option other than arresting the kid at school or completely looking the other way.

School authorities had plenty of choices they could have made to ensure the safety of their students and not end up as a headline in national news. They ignored those and decided to have him arrested and suspended.



Well, they can take the clock to the front office and have it investigated without suspending and arresting the kid. That's one rather obvious choice.

Other items that should get kids arrested if they bring to school using your logic of allowable carry-on items :





I hope Ahmed isn't on the LAX squad.

In summary, the school officials had many options, they just chose the dumbest one.

I think you should put yourself on-call to be the guy who checks out suspicious objects. Just deliver them to your office for you to check out.
 
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Meh, if you are Muslim in this country you should have to walk around without a shirt at all times. And you sure as **** shouldn't carry around a damn homemade clock that looks like a bomb.
 
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You act like there isn't another option other than arresting the kid at school or completely looking the other way.

School authorities had plenty of choices they could have made to ensure the safety of their students and not end up as a headline in national news. They ignored those and decided to have him arrested and suspended.



Well, they can take the clock to the front office and have it investigated without suspending and arresting the kid. That's one rather obvious choice.

Other items that should get kids arrested if they bring to school using your logic of allowable carry-on items :



I hope Ahmed isn't on the LAX squad.

In summary, the school officials had many options, they just chose the dumbest one.

This? Should it have been looked into? Yes. Do you need to arrest and suspend him? Absolutely not. Way to be morons, morons.
 

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Detaining him until they got it cleared up would have been reasonable. Did they actually arrest him? Suspension was too much when it was cleared up.

On the other hand, if it HAD been a bomb and it exploded, every one of us would have been saying "Why did those morons let that kid inside a school with a bomb?"
 

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You act like there isn't another option other than arresting the kid at school or completely looking the other way.

School authorities had plenty of choices they could have made to ensure the safety of their students and not end up as a headline in national news. They ignored those and decided to have him arrested and suspended.



Well, they can take the clock to the front office and have it investigated without suspending and arresting the kid. That's one rather obvious choice.

Other items that should get kids arrested if they bring to school using your logic of allowable carry-on items :



I hope Ahmed isn't on the LAX squad.

In summary, the school officials had many options, they just chose the dumbest one.


I actually don't disagree that he shouldn't have been cuffed. That was needless.

But kids get sent home and suspended every single day for bringing dumb **** to school. Most of them white kids, but they don't get feted as victims and invites from Barry for it. Can't imagine what was different about this kid...

Frankly, a school administrator can't be too careful. I can't blame them. They are responsible for every kid there.
 

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Detaining him until they got it cleared up would have been reasonable. Did they actually arrest him? Suspension was too much when it was cleared up.

On the other hand, if it HAD been a bomb and it exploded, every one of us would have been saying "Why did those morons let that kid inside a school with a bomb?"
yes, because people who intend to detonate a bomb show it to their teacher first. Well, wait a second...

After actually seeing what it looked like I can understand the concern part, but the way it was handled has Heisman masterbating into Sean Hannity napkins.
 
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I think you should put yourself on-call to be the guy who checks out suspicious objects. Just deliver them to your office for you to check out.

Sure thing. I would check it out and say "in my expert opinion......it's a clock, like the kid said. If you really want to look like an *** you should have him arrested and suspended. Your call. "
 

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Frankly, a school administrator can't be too careful. I can't blame them. They are responsible for every kid there.

You can't blame them for having him handcuffed and arrested? Sure, you can't be too careful, but you can be too absurd. Having the kid arrested, led out in handcuffs before calling his parents, and later suspended, contributes nothing to the care of the kids at the school.

The police can and should have been involved, but the arrest, and subsequent suspension after knowing there was no threat, is 100% unnecessary.
 

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You can't blame them for having him handcuffed and arrested? Sure, you can't be too careful, but you can be too absurd. Having the kid arrested, led out in handcuffs before calling his parents, and later suspended, contributes nothing to the care of the kids at the school.

The police can and should have been involved, but the arrest, and subsequent suspension after knowing there was no threat, is 100% unnecessary.

Lol. Can't blame them for being too careful. I know you read better than that.
 

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Lolllll

So they actually arrested this kid and took him to the station? I assume it's all worked out now?

And Barry invited him to the White House. Lollll

If that kid shows up anywhere near the White House with that clock, the Secret Service will be all over him like white on rice.
 
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Mime...... If you believe the police "can and should have been involved", why are you so upset at the school because the kid was arrested? They aren't the ones who make the decision to arrest someone.

I don't think the police should have been involved at all. Just another example of schools using zero common sense and over reacting to a ridiculous "incident".

I posted 4 or 5 quick examples in the political thread. There are literally hundreds of examples of school systems being complete idiots. And it crosses all race, gender, and age lines.
 

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You can't blame them for having him handcuffed and arrested? Sure, you can't be too careful, but you can be too absurd. Having the kid arrested, led out in handcuffs before calling his parents, and later suspended, contributes nothing to the care of the kids at the school.

The police can and should have been involved, but the arrest, and subsequent suspension after knowing there was no threat, is 100% unnecessary.

the school screwed up, but it is doubtful that their behavior was malicious. the administrators shouldn't be fired, but they should apologize publicly (at minimum to the child and his parents) for how they dealt with this particular instance. in general, i'm sure the administrators do a great job. it can't be easy to figure out where the line is.

with that said, i'm impressed with the kid's effort to learn how things work. i'll join the trove of tech entrepreneurs offering him a job. we don't build clocks, but we'd sure like someone motivated like that.
 

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but but but... profiling.

Agreed. The idea of Muslim males being violent and creating bombs is absurd.




The school didn't use common sense but it had nothing to do with race. The 7-year old white kid suspended for biting his Pop Tart into the shape of a gun and saying "bang" "bang" got him suspended from school. Obama didn't have a comment on that one though.
 

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Chances are if someone dropped that thing on the desk of someone in the "They should have just checked the clock out" crowd, they'd scream BOMB and run out of the room.

It's easy to say now what they should have done now that it's been discovered to be a crappy clock. But that thing looks like every movie bomb anyone has ever seen - which is probably the only frame of reference most have for bombs. In this day and age, you don't know what a kid or person is capable of or how they will act prior to acting out. Do I think a kid would show a teacher the bomb beforehand? Well, how are we supposed to say they wouldn't? Those that would bring a bomb somewhere aren't exactly logical.

This all looks stupid in retrospect, but I'm not sure it had the same look in real time.
 
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Pretty pathetic. No one doubts for a second that if the student was a white 14yo named Bobby, then (at worst) he'd have been questioned and his clock examined. It seems those pathetic, moronic, racists in Texas just look to embarrass the US again and again.
 

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Pretty pathetic. No one doubts for a second that if the student was a white 14yo named Bobby, then (at worst) he'd have been questioned and his clock examined. It seems those pathetic, moronic, racists in Texas just look to embarrass the US again and again.

Yeah, although, this was blown way out of proportion, it's on par with how schools overreact especially when they see this in a case near 9/11


I do love that the kid ripping out a 1980s alarm clock and stuffing it into a briefcase is considered "innovative" and gets an invite to the White House and facebook.
 
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Here are some other people who didn't get invited to the White House despite idiotic reactions from administrators.

"A North Texas student was punished recently for wearing an American flag T-shirt to school. An administrator at Seagoville High School determined that the shirt violated the dress code."
http://www.fox4news.com/news/20311560-story

Students sent home for wearing American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/06/california-students-sent-home-wearing-flags-cinco-mayo/

Or this lime green nerf gun getting SWAT and the school shut down

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/long-island-high-school-lockdown-article-1.1240292

Libs jump at the opportunity to make Muslims look like victims, which is hilarious.
 
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Mime...... If you believe the police "can and should have been involved", why are you so upset at the school because the kid was arrested? They aren't the ones who make the decision to arrest someone.

Easy. Police are called to look at clock, realize it's a clock, everyone goes about their business without kid getting arrested for bringing a homemade clock to school. Done.
 

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I actually am impressed that the kid had the ability to make a functional clock from parts. Some things that seem simple aren't when you look a little closer.

Not really that impressive. He traveled to Yemen and Syria to learn basic clock making skills. He had a lot of training....but that's beside the point.
 
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I'm always amazed at what some people and their mental gymnastics can do when a story only has one logical side and they HAVE to find a way to be contrarian or risk making sense for once, by accident. Impressive work, really.
 
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Being a half-japanese woman, I KNOW that if I carried that into school during my HS days, i'd be much more likely to be just given first place than having the police called.
 

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Easy. Police are called to look at clock, realize it's a clock, everyone goes about their business without kid getting arrested for bringing a homemade clock to school. Done.

So where is the fault of the school in that scenario? That's all on the police.

<------ doesn't think the police should have been called and therefore no arrest would have been made.
 

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First the kid didn't make a thing. He pulled apart a alarm clock and put it in this case. here is the clock that he used http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICRONTA-La...w-Battery-Backup-63-765A-VINTAGE/291565559523http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICRONTA-La...w-Battery-Backup-63-765A-VINTAGE/291565559523

Why did he do this? Why in his own words did he "try to make it look less threatening". He knew what people would think it would look like. He knew what would happen. He is now set to sue the school and get all this fame. It makes me so mad that people are thinking he some MIT level engineer when he did not do a thing but make a case look like a bomb.



this would of been some thing he "invented" . See a difference?
 
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First the kid didn't make a thing. He pulled apart a alarm clock and put it in this case. here is the clock that he used http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICRONTA-La...w-Battery-Backup-63-765A-VINTAGE/291565559523http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICRONTA-La...w-Battery-Backup-63-765A-VINTAGE/291565559523

Why did he do this? Why in his own woulds did he "try to make it look less threatening". He know what people would think it would look like. He knew what would happen. He is set now to sue the school and get all this fame. It makes me so mad that people are thinking he some MIT level engineer when he did not do a thing but make a bomb looking case.

this would of been some thing he "invented" . See a difference?

Mock post or drunk post?
 

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This kid knew exactly what he was doing. EXACTLY. And the fact that Obama and all the other left wing lunatics bought into it hook, line and sinker shows that they are unfit to lead this country. Seriously, they were played.

Also serves as a good test run because now the PC crowd will make these people afraid of being called Islamphobic and will not examine them as thoroughly; you know cause of profiling and stuff.

An oldie but a goodie

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
Charlie Hebdo attackers were Muslims
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
 

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This kid knew exactly what he was doing. EXACTLY. And the fact that Obama and all the other left wing lunatics bought into it hook, line and sinker shows that they are unfit to lead this country. Seriously, they were played.

The kid is 14 years old and made a clock. Overreaction and crying wolf on terrorism was a mistake by the school officials. Once the police (the only informed/trained people in this entire affair) cleared the clock as just a clock, people should have moved on. The trend towards sensationalism in this country is truly mind-boggling. This should have been a non-story. At this point, I almost feel the school officials made it a big deal on purpose, to get the kid media attention.