Coach Dawson stealing signs at 2nd half?

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Is this Matt Jones showing his understanding of football?

Why would Gran and his offense use the same signals as Dawson and his offense? Apparently Dawson changed his signals otherwise UK's sharp defensive staff would have picked them up. [winking]

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Who said Gran and his offense was using the same signals as Dawson and his offense?
No one as far as I can tell, but my reading comprehension may be lacking.

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Is this Matt Jones showing his understanding of football?

Why would Gran and his offense use the same signals as Dawson and his offense? Apparently Dawson changed his signals otherwise UK's sharp defensive staff would have picked them up. [winking]

Peace
Lack of understanding. Still not sure why so many give him breath.
 

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Who said Gran and his offense was using the same signals as Dawson and his offense?
No one as far as I can tell, but my reading comprehension may be lacking.

Peace
Not Gran and Offense.

UK Defensive signals same as last season.

Don't know whether to believe or not BUT I could see a situation where Dawson called a running play and after watching the signals from Cats D coaches, CHANGE THE SIDE the play was run to.
 

Mike-D

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Who knows?

But my take:

A college team doesn't have the time to wait for the defense to send signals and then call their own play.

A pro team with a bunch of resources focused on the other sideline (looking at you Patriots) could, but not well, as we have seen.


Also, why do people think the OC knows all of the defensive scheme signals?

Has anyone ever been to a practice or a meeting room?

Offensive and defensive units are so separate they might as well be different teams.

And during a game offensive players are usually on the bench with the OC, not watching the defense.

There is absolutely no reason for an OC to try and learn defensive signals.

This isnt baseball where everyone on the team has the same take/bunt/steal signals.

I'm sure you know more about football than I do. I don't claim to know anything. But to say that Dawson wouldn't know the defensive signals (had they not changed) is giving our coaching staff way too much credit. I'm not going back to watch that game, but I don't see how it would be that hard to call out an audible from the sideline before each snap.

And furthermore, why would Matt Jones lie about this? He's said if Stoops couldn't win here, nobody could. While I believe that to be false, he's been "all in" on this staff. And again, Matt reiterated that the person that told him this information, they weren't the type of person to make this stuff up. But everyone can believe whatever they want.
 
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LeonThe Camel

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I'm sure you know more about football than I do. I don't claim to know anything. But to say that Dawson wouldn't know the defensive signals (had they not changed) is giving our coaching staff way too much credit. I'm not going back to watch that game, but I don't see how it would be that hard to call out an audible from the sideline before each snap.

And furthermore, why would Matt Jones lie about this? He's said if Stoops couldn't win here, nobody could. While I believe that to be false, he's been "all in" on this staff. And again, Matt reiterated that the person that told him this information, they weren't the type of person to make this stuff up. But everyone can believe whatever they want.
Why wouldn't he! The big problem with this is why didn't Dawson do it in the first half/second quarter/3rd play from scrimmage.
 

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Yep. Talk about having a very stupid coaching staff. Why on earth would you use the same signals from the previous year when the other teams coach was on our staff??? Dumb. Good for Dawson. I'm really starting to think it wasn't Dawson but stoops
Cant disagree. This staff had MONTHS to prepare for a home game they KNEW they had to win, especially with Dawson on the other side of the field. And they still blew it.
 
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2 plays over and over. They also used tempo. They snapped the ball about 10 seconds into the clock. Guess it helps when the play calls stay the same.

Our defense is putrid. But Dawson did nothing special other than just run two plays that our even more putrid DC couldn't adjust too. His play calls came in way too fast to be stealing anything, as if he even needed to given the success of those two plays.
 
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Mike-D

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It's all depressing. I feel bad for Stoops too. He's a terrible head coach, but he's a great person. I wanted this to work for so many reasons.
 
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Can you really call it "stealing" when it is gift wrapped with a bow like that. I would call it stupidity beyond belief on Kentucky's part if this is indeed true.
 

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Not sure I'm buying this. Not that our staff is incapable of doing something so dumb because they definitely are.

On the other hand, could be why Dawson was giggling like a school girl on the sidelines.
Dawson was laughing because he isn't a coach for UK anymore.
 

Woodrow24

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I think Matt Jones is full of **** on this. No coaching staff is that stupid, not even this one.

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It makes no sense to me. I think it is just an excuse put out there for this coaching staff for losing that game. We all knew Florida would beat the cats and they can't make an excuse for that crap fest we all seen though.
 

Stonewall12

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The whole coaching staff needs to be fired if this is true. 120 million $ spent on faculties for these incompetent sons of bvtches?


This is Little Giants stuff.
 
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I don't know what pissed me off more, the ineptitude of the staff for not changing the signals or the seeming lack of uproar by our fans over this. He'd be tarred and feathered at Tennessee or Alabama over this.