Coach K and Wooden succeeded where the Baron failed
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If your trying to tell me K is a great coach, you didn't have to. I think anyone that thinks he's not, needs their head examined.
But the writers comments about Rupp are factually incorrect.
Sorry, unless you're a UK fan and actually read up on Rupp then you'll just believe what anyone writes. But that's cool.
But the writers comments about Rupp are factually incorrect.
Sorry, unless you're a UK fan and actually read up on Rupp then you'll just believe what anyone writes. But that's cool.
Ok, first off Adolph rupp wasn't as racist as people claim him to be. He was a victim of his time. While he was in Kentucky a more conservative state, than the likes of a California would have an advantage to recruiting black players. He tried to recruit black players that's a fact, but failed to land the ones he wanted. I could of won Atleast 5 titles with the slew of elite talent wooden had as coach. As for coach k adjusting to the times, that's a stretch. He's been recruiting elite talent for years. Yes he's a damn good coach, but to say he's had to make a major adjustment is ludicrous. Guys these days want the fastest route to the nba. If they can be coached by a great coach that's a bonus. In the times of wooden and rupp the nba was great but they never saw the kind of money they see today with endorcements to boot.
You clearly do not watch enough Duke basketball to make an educated opinion. K has changed virtually every offensive and defensive principle that he developed in the 90's to fit his personnel since 2000. During the Gerald Henderson days we ran the Phoenix Suns offense and played four guards and a forward. Nolan Smith's junior year, we were the slowest paced team in major basketball because we only had three guards on the team, but we were also the tallest team n the nation, so we dominated the boards. The next year with Kyrie, our offense stepped up the pace and we picked up our defensive pressure with a deeper roster, but we're not nearly as effective on the backboards. I could go on and on...K coaches his team according to its strengths, that's adjusting
I'll just keep calling K my team's coach and everyone else can say and do what they want. Fine by me.
Ok you got one part of that right, being your first sentence. You can't deny, that coach ks "adjustments" are a little more far fetched than that of what rupp had to try and do. If rupp would of had anyone in his time that was the as decent as gearld Henderson was. A 5 star black player he would have Atleast one more championship. Keep in mind, not too many white guy's especially those of the 50s and 60s are faster than black players especially today. You're trying to compare apples to oranges here. It's the physicality of the player as well as his attributes. Look at the 1966 championship game there's your proof
I wasn't commenting on Rupp. I'm 42 and have no clue about his coaching style or who other than Pat Riley played for him. For what it's worth, pre-integration stats, wins, and championships mean nothing to me.
You mean before duke basketball was relevant? If you're going to criticize a coach atleast know what you're talking about.
Quite ironic that you're chastising someone for not knowing what they're talking about, when you simulataneously overlook Duke's relevance as a program dating back to the 1960's. Learn some damn history you fool.
Google or Bing Duke men's basketball and take a few minutes to look at the history. You will see that Duke has been relevant for a while. It's so easy to not make a fool of yourself in these modern days with information so easily accessible. To be honest you won't get anywhere on this board knocking Duke. If you want to feel good go and post all these things at thr. You will feel at home there and they will agree on everything you say negative about Duke. OFC
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If he got the first part right where he says "you clearly don't watch enough Duke basketball to make an educated opinion" then why are you still typing?
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Likewise! You seem to be ignorant of what Coach K teams have looked like over the years.
I guess you guys missed the part I was referring to. He says preintegration. Says the stats of bigs and other players from a time like, let's say the 60s are irrelevant
By that metric, UK only has 4 national titles. If that's the case, do you still consider that era irrelevant?
Over half of UK's relevance stems from an era a UK fan would deem irrelevant. You can't make this crap up.
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I tend to like everything my teams accomplished. I don't pick and choose what I like.
I'm not here to argue about K and Cal
But this Rupp stuff always gets overblown about being racist and behind the times. He coached African Americans in the 1920s in high school and 1948 olympics. There are numerous articles of players he recruited that didn't want to play games in the south and they chose elsewhere.
I do wish we lost one game to Duke. The 1966 final four. I wonder how it would be told if Texas western beat an all white Duke team
But this Rupp stuff always gets overblown about being racist and behind the times. He coached African Americans in the 1920s in high school and 1948 olympics. There are numerous articles of players he recruited that didn't want to play games in the south and they chose elsewhere.
I do wish we lost one game to Duke. The 1966 final four. I wonder how it would be told if Texas western beat an all white Duke team
Duke has had a racial stigma placed on it for years by detractors whether it's "Coach K doesn't recruit inner city kids" or "the great white villain" that was so hotly discussed this year, so I don't want to hear it from a group of people who find it so hard to believe that there were some racial injustices that occurred in an era and location where racial injustices were pretty much standard. No one here is saying Duke was free from it, and not really one of us has commended the article. It was a part of life at the time. Accept it and move on.
Shouldn't you be apologizing then, eh?I'm Canadian DD, nothing offends me
The fact that he coached black players in high school, in the Olympics in all-star games makes it more egregious he didn't try to recruit one at Kentucky. He knew the stereotypes of blacks and whites not being able to get along were untrue. Alabama's apologists use the same story line for Bear Bryant. Bryant coached black athletes in all-tar games. Neither Rupp or Bryant had it in them to step up and be a coach that was a great leader. They went along with the times.
Coaches with lesser reputations than Rupp and Bryant did more at risk to their careers in the 60s than those two.
Coaches with lesser reputations than Rupp and Bryant did more at risk to their careers in the 60s than those two.
I know you're trying to get views for your articles, which is borderline against policy on these boards, but what's your agenda @Tom Shanahan and why is this not on the Kentucky board?
Lol I didn't even pay attention to the poster and the author. Wow that's crazy you post this here trolling for hits lol
Which Boogie, is why I was trying to diffuse this thread because of it's nature and location. None of us brought this up and none of us have really co-signed it either. I'm locking it up, this is going to cause nothing but trouble.
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