K has always been confidential when it comes to injuries. The fact that he felt confident enough to give his update yesterday should tell you all you need to know about that. Not sure why anyone would question if he thinks it’s more serious than he’s actually leading on.
Coach K Calls it a “Mild Sprain”
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If he is healthy (things look good but I want to reiterate that) and you think he’s going to go out on his one year at Duke in that way... you are crazy! Kid is a winner and a competitor
lol My thoughts as well! I hope my co-workers and manager understands what today's production will entail. lol
ZION BLOWS OUT KNEE....IN FRONT OF FLOYD MAYWEATHER, WHO BEATS WOMEN! MORE AT 10.
He did limp back to the locker room, but he was walking under his own power. Another thing I will point out is that team looked very stoic during shootaround after halftime. I couldn’t find a single face showing determinism or grit, except Brandon Besser, weirdly enough. They were visibly deflated. Those in my section read too much into this and assumed the worst, just because we are so used to seeing these guys with fire in their eyes after bad first halves. In hindsight, this could’ve been nothing or just knowing the fact that they’d have to play without Zion the rest of the game.I have good news. I think you’re wrong
Zion looked confused more so than injured when it happened. I’m almost willing to say that he didn’t even limp off the court, just appeared that way with one shoe on and one off. If he tore anything, he wouldn’t have been confused, he’d be doubled over in pain and wouldn’t have walked off the court. He was more concerned with checking out the damn shoe.
His dad went back to the locker room, returned and grabbed his mom and they both went back. You know why? Probably because the medical staff cleared him physically but advised he sit out until a MRI just to be sure. He wanted to play, but valued mom and dad’s opinion + medical staff who probably all agreed to wait to be safe. Hell, I heard he was jogging around the hallways. This kid is still in mint condition.
If there was a chance that Zion wasn’t just perfectly fine, K wouldn’t have said what he said. Not sure how he could of possibly not been emotionally shook. He watched his team play about a miserably as possible. I’d be drained too after not being able to save the trainwreck that just happened. Ready for ZzzQuil, wake up tomorrow and start a fresh day.
45 seconds to go in the 1st half, momentum, had the lead cut to 5 and Javin made a block cleaner than a whistle that would of been Duke’s possession. Foul. Carolina pushes the lead to 10 ending with a statement slam to finish the half. Terrible call. Not here to blame officials, it is what it is. But that really suckered us back into a hole they clawed to dig out of. I don’t know why they looked so defeated in warm ups, I can only hope that the end of the first half was the reason and not Zion related.
Maybe it’s just better if we all just shut up with our speculation and wait for the news. Should be coming in the next few hours.
Right, coming from someone who has vaporized both knees, they do lateral stability "pull tests" and can tell from the resistance and motion of the knee. Pretty close, but partial tears are not always recognizable, same with issues with the menisci. the fact that he was doing straight line running is a good sign for both of these as they immediately swell when torn and cause extreme tightness in the knee, which would be quite painful fro a man o f 285lbs to run on, post injury. My best guess (hope) is a common sprain fro unnatural twist/flex and treatment with anti inflammatory and aquatherapy
Take this for what it's worth but someone in a Facebook group I'm in just posted this update...
"He could play Saturday if necessary but he will likely sit two games for precautionary measures."
I don't know how legit the poster is but some others in the group seem to have confidence in him.
"He could play Saturday if necessary but he will likely sit two games for precautionary measures."
I don't know how legit the poster is but some others in the group seem to have confidence in him.
If he sits out these next two games, he might as well set the next 2. We are @ Cuse and then @ VT, two tough games. After that it is two games at home vs Miami and WFU, two terrible games vs two bad teams whose seasons are basically over. Frankly, I'd hoped that those two games could be used for Zion and RJ to get some rest while some of the other guys build up their confidence.
I guess I'd prefer that if Zion is able to play, then he plays. I understand sitting him the next two games for precautionary reasons, but I don't sit him against Miami and Wake because they're 'bad' teams. That would put Zion at three weeks of no game action going into UNC. That hardly seems advantageous.
If he can go, I'm sure he'll play vs WFU as his de facto "senior night." It will be his last game, and the last time the crazies can see him in person.
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But if he's going to be held out of the next two games, he won't be back before WFU. We won't need him vs Miami, so that will be worth another near weak of rest. With a game vs a bad WFU team, at home, to knock the rust off.
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Realistically, we'll need him to win the next few games. Maybe we can take a bad Cuse team on the road. They got lucky in game 1 due to our injuries (but it was only as close as it was because Zion scored at will), so maybe everyone else being available wins us the game. At VT is different. We might straight up need Zion to win that game.
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Folks we are in danger territory. I have no desire to play UK in the elite 8 in MFing Louisville, KY. A few losses and we might find ourselves as the 1 to their 2, or even the 2 to their 1. The next few games, and the ACCT, are vitally important to secure the optimal seed and bracket.
Maybe this belongs in the positivity thread, but I think we should be able to and will take care of the next 4 games with or without Zion. That said, I'd much rather it be with
Is Justin out past the Duke game? If he's gone, then Cuse is a tougher game. If he's back, that place will be seething with energy.
Thing is, we can't really afford another loss. I assumed we'd lose one of the UNC games, so we'd have a tie with UVA. But we own the tie breaker, so we'd be the 1 seed in the ACCT.
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I would really, really prefer not to have to play UVA and UNC back to back to win the ACCT. As such, we need to be the 1 seed. Which means we can't lose another game unless uVA loses one as well.
I got the impression looking at the mechanism of the injury that this was a MCL sprain. Hopefully, 1st degree. He can come back from that , the question is when and if the discomfort will slow him down.
I don't know that you can tell by the mechanism that it was a sprain or a tear. Physical exam findings should help team doctors differentiate, but the only thing really definitive will be the MRI. Speaking of which, what the hell are we waiting on at this point?
Honestly, I'd venture to guess no news is good news. Duke won't issue a statement that says it's not torn, IMO.
It’s easy to look at the immediate picture and have doubts, but If Zion misses a couple of games that could easily cost the Devils a regular season championship, which don’t mean **** anymore because of the unbalanced schedule, but it will force others to step up and Duke really needs someone to step up because when one of our guys go out we are such a different team in a bad way, maybe White finds his stroke or Bolden claims the paint and becomes a force down low. Hell something other than where we go now. We need someone to lead the troops when times get tough. Duke looks so lost at times.
Interesting article on the shoe and an interview with Paul George. I did know this for sure until now but a lot of pro players use a brand new pair of shoes each game (I would have thought maybe every few games, to maybe break them in a bit). They think Zion will get a custom shoe for his size once in the NBA. It would be nice if they would do that now. Although the article speculates Zion had the same pair on the entire season. Either way, interesting read.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-went-wrong-pg-25-shoe-zion-williamson-injury
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-went-wrong-pg-25-shoe-zion-williamson-injury
I was just about to post that I just saw a post with the same report on Facebook from Duke Men’s Basketball
We paid him $100,000.00 to come here and then made him wear the same shoes all year?? Cheapskates!!
Those shoes haven't been worn in many games. They look too good. These guys put a lot of wear and tear on a pair of shoes in any given game. That would show up on the shoes. I'm not saying these were brand new, but they haven't been worn that often.
I would assume they go through at least 3 pair or so in a season.....I have no knowledge whatsoever, but I would think that is the case
I think he can def be back for VT.. Cuse might be a stretch... I think he dresses for Cuse but does not play
Pros don't go for more than 2-3 games without a new pair of kicks. I bet our guys don't do more than 4 or 5. Probably less. They wouldn't want to play in a new, unbroken in sneaker, so they practice in it for a couple of days, then use it for games, while still practicing in it. I bet they get a new pair at least every 2 weeks, possibly sooner.
If he can go, I wonder if K might not err on the side of caution. I think everyone would like a new talking point for Cuse. I'm not saying rush him back. But everything I've seen or inferred leads me to think he could have come back last night, and would have if the game "mattered." In other words, that same injury doesn't keep him out of an NCAAT game or a playoff series.
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K won't rush him back, at all. But if he's good to go, K won't sit him for an extra game just to be sure.
Some of column A, some of column B.
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Frankly, Zion should use a more substantial shoe than the more sock-like PG 2.5.
Been tough to find any humor until a few minutes ago when the update came out.....I was about to go back into the dark hole I was in when Tre went out......and I didn't like it in there.