Replace M* & Telford with Yainni & Kem
Move Terry to HWC and get Bob to pay for Vito, Carr, Keckiesen & Mason Paris
Move Terry to HWC and get Bob to pay for Vito, Carr, Keckiesen & Mason Paris
Coaching Staff Next Year
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You’re missing a coach if you get rid of 3 and bring in 2.
I would keep Morningstar !!!
Would it be such a terrible idea to just move M* to recruiting coordinator?
They gotta make that a position first. Currently that's not a position
All valid points. DT is in the honeymoon phase right now. He is going to have to prove himself at some point in time or he will not be able to recruit either. The coaching genius comes at a later point.
It is like 2 wings of a bird. You need both wings to fly. Ability to recruit and good coaching skills are the 2 wings. If the wing that is the strongest in the ability to coach or coaching genius. That will make the recruiting wing stronger. If there is no coaching genius, the recruiting wing will eventually wear out and fail.
And that is as philosophical as I am going to get for now.
Other schools have it would they just have to make it a position probably gotta go through the proper channels id guess
I'm not sure Cael is a coaching genius as he didn't improve ISU much after he took over. Of course he had David Taylor and another fellow, whose name I forget, but who also attended PSU(albeit after his mormon commitment was over).
It was such an awful post not even I could muster reply.
Not to say it is a terrible idea, but it is not a magical way to add another coach. Guys with this title only are limited in what they are allowed to do versus an assistant coach who also carries that distinction. For instance, they are not allowed to recruit off campus.
Zero Chance JB would coach under Tom, and zero chance Tom would coach under that stipulation. Clean break is needed.
Probably so, my plan was an olive branch in general to try and be amicable. I'd prefer Iowa fire tom and bring in Burroughs right away if they could.
Would be a big loss and one I don't see happening.
Why? Recruiting and development of the middle weights have been subpar during his tenure.
Well Hendrickson beating Steveson in the finals last year was a good start. Doubt that happens with the old staff at OSU.All valid points. DT is in the honeymoon phase right now. He is going to have to prove himself at some point in time or he will not be able to recruit either. The coaching genius comes at a later point.
It is like 2 wings of a bird. You need both wings to fly. Ability to recruit and good coaching skills are the 2 wings. If the wing that is the strongest in the ability to coach or coaching genius. That will make the recruiting wing stronger. If there is no coaching genius, the recruiting wing will eventually wear out and fail.
And that is as philosophical as I am going to get for now.
So, I'm hearing Bigfoot has been spotted in Ohio...That's all
He's the one who's gotten the recruits they've now and the ones who are coming. The development piece not sure how much of that is his fault. Partners is what matters not coaches training with the guys . RTC athletes are important and need to be a focus.
Oklahoma st had Gator WC and Penn st has NLWC and Gable has the best club. Having a good club means having a good college team. Guys typically don't jump big levels unless someone better is around to wrestle with daily.
Folks who want him gone have no idea.
Because it is so impossible to find another coach who can recruit. It’s amazing other teams sign anyone good.
I know you are his mentor and I am sure he is a good guy who works hard to build relationships but anyone pretending that wrestlers would leave if he gets fired are fooling themselves.
He got 3 guys to the finals and won 2 titles last year including a win thought to be almost impossible before it happened. Pretty good start.All valid points. DT is in the honeymoon phase right now. He is going to have to prove himself at some point in time or he will not be able to recruit either. The coaching genius comes at a later point.
It is like 2 wings of a bird. You need both wings to fly. Ability to recruit and good coaching skills are the 2 wings. If the wing that is the strongest in the ability to coach or coaching genius. That will make the recruiting wing stronger. If there is no coaching genius, the recruiting wing will eventually wear out and fail.
And that is as philosophical as I am going to get for now.
There lies a major issue with the current staff. Terry doesn't want to recruit and that is well known. It works in football with all the staff members able to recruit one member doesn't do home visit, but good luck with that in wrestling.
100% agree Morningstar needs to go and development is on him as well. Again limited staff so its all their job and he's still young enough he's been on the mat with the current line up plenty and doesn't seem to be doing wonders with Patrick Kennedy's scrambling ability. Different rules with coaches, but at one point we had Jared Frayer as a strength coach. He seems to do all right with developing guys.
He can pursue his real passion show pigs.
I have always thought Willie would be great in some sort of recruiting advisory role. Say what you want about him, but the guy is very connected in the high school wrestling world and is a great ranker and just has an eye for spotting talent in recruits. Laugh all you want, but he would help Iowa dramatically in recruiting imo. He might be making enough money in social media to not want to be tied to any one program to unless it was Nebby
Iowa needs to just do what Iowa St is doing and have a guy like Perry who brings guys into train and calls rostered athletes on other teams for next year.I have always thought Willie would be great in some sort of recruiting advisory role. Say what you want about him, but the guy is very connected in the high school wrestling world and is a great ranker and just has an eye for spotting talent in recruits. Laugh all you want, but he would help Iowa dramatically in recruiting imo. He might be making enough money in social media to not want to be tied to any one program to unless it was Nebby
Recruiting coordinators can't go out and attend events. Willie already said no to UNC years ago.
No one outside Iowa City have ever heard of him or watched his wrestling videos. That alone makes him not a big loss. Just from the Hawks there are numerous guys with more name recognition and the ability to roll with our guys every day.
Is he really that good of a recruiter? We haven’t been great at pulling in the elite wrestlers outside of Lee (a decade ago).
Those kids want to wrestle for Iowa in Iowa City. They don't want to wrestle for M*. Just stop it.
Cael just stated that HE wrestles with his guys every day and puts them in places where they struggle so they get better. Great coaches and teammates are what make guys better. Throw in some top international guys and that is the recipe for success.
Tom, Terry, M* and Bob aren't making our guys better and that can't be argued any longer.
He’s going to have at least 1 champ this year and has elite wrestlers coming in. I think his honeymoon phase will be at least 5 years, likely more.All valid points. DT is in the honeymoon phase right now. He is going to have to prove himself at some point in time or he will not be able to recruit either. The coaching genius comes at a later point.
It is like 2 wings of a bird. You need both wings to fly. Ability to recruit and good coaching skills are the 2 wings. If the wing that is the strongest in the ability to coach or coaching genius. That will make the recruiting wing stronger. If there is no coaching genius, the recruiting wing will eventually wear out and fail.
And that is as philosophical as I am going to get for now.
Can't see it. Mustang Willie doesn't own a suit and we can't have him drinking around the kids.
M* is a pretty cool guy and he has been responsible for lot of kids coming to Iowa City. The Bull for one...
That said he also has the advantage of recruiting from the biggest name in wrestling. Under his watch recruiting has slipped away and is on portal life support and Bob is the iron lung.
I really like him but nobody is irreplaceable. All coaches on the staff own this.
That said he also has the advantage of recruiting from the biggest name in wrestling. Under his watch recruiting has slipped away and is on portal life support and Bob is the iron lung.
I really like him but nobody is irreplaceable. All coaches on the staff own this.
Didn't he just help land a great recruiting class?
Where did I say they wanted to wrestle for M* over Iowa?
We all have opinions and ours are different but we live in America so thats allowed.
Bob and his NIL $ won't mean much now with NIL GO. Rev share $ will be what's important.
So how are the 27/28 kids gonna get paid if Iowa gets zero in rev sharing? They said in the commitment stream or heavily implied that there was a number that was agreed upon for the Bachmanns and Kenny’s with Iowa.i know with NIL GO, the NIL deals have to be approved based on how much they deem the athletes to be worth.
They will receive rev share for sure . The first year rev share wasn't a priority because everyone already had NIL deals figured out prior to July. But this offseason rev share will definitely be a factor
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