This is correct. People seem to ignore the club side of his salary.
Coaching Staff Next Year
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This is correct. People seem to ignore the club side of his salary.
I just don't see Spencer as a coach. He doesn't seem especially into it.
I just don't see Spencer as a coach. He doesn't seem especially into it.
Spencer "might" be a good coach, but the reality is he has never worked much with guys in the room, focused on rehab,and his personal goals.Not a knock, he just hasn't had time to coach.
Did Gable wait for openings and keep average at best assistants around for years. No, because Dan didn't hire average assistants to begin with. The only reason Ryan and Bob are there is because they are yes men to TnT. When Brent quit competing, you make a spot for him. Period.
Reread what was said. I said Tom wasn't loyal to those guys not that they would work under him.
I’m not necessarily saying the above is wrong or that I disagree. But we were talking about loyalty, remember? Right or wrong, that would have been disloyal to the existing guys.
Spencer Lee will do well in anything he chooses to do related to the sport of wrestling. Perhaps he has said he doesn’t want to coach. He might have. But it’s funny how perspective can change as one starts to see the end of the road as a competitor.
Either way, I highly doubt anyone here is close enough to know whether he’s truly “into it” or not. And even then it could change.
It sounds like that bridge was burned. Brent mentioned that being a regular dynamic with TnT when athletes graduate and leave the program while talking about an interaction with Thomas G…
In wrestling, the hammers hammer, the others do something else. Ryan and Bob should have been doing something else from the beginning. I understand what you are saying about loyalty but being an assistant at Iowa should set you up for a head coaching gig somewhere else. Ever heard of any interest in Ryan or Bob?
Brent should absolutely have been added to the staff when he graduated. Anyone that disagrees doesn't understand the dynamic. He was the face of our program. Choosing Morningstar over him was idiotic.
I think there were some questions on how dedicated to the job he was at that point? I know he had some other interests and possible career paths he was exploring, which as a young man who'd dedicated most of his life to wrestling makes sense. I do wish he'd have stayed on staff though, his style and popularity at the time were still very strong.
Couple things so far:
1. As far as a possible coach needing to visit Iowa City to see around before taking a job; anyone that’s qualified to take a wrestling coaching job at Iowa has already been to Iowa City (more than likely more than once). They know what Iowa City is like; there’s no reason they couldn’t interview remotely.
2. As far as it possibly being Mocco- I’d be surprised if he would leave his job at ATT. Honest question what does Mocco bring to the table? What boxes would he check? Younger? No. Scrambling? No. Offensive? No unless we’re just teaching foot sweeps. I love Mocco but he’s not checking boxes for what Iowa needs.
1. As far as a possible coach needing to visit Iowa City to see around before taking a job; anyone that’s qualified to take a wrestling coaching job at Iowa has already been to Iowa City (more than likely more than once). They know what Iowa City is like; there’s no reason they couldn’t interview remotely.
2. As far as it possibly being Mocco- I’d be surprised if he would leave his job at ATT. Honest question what does Mocco bring to the table? What boxes would he check? Younger? No. Scrambling? No. Offensive? No unless we’re just teaching foot sweeps. I love Mocco but he’s not checking boxes for what Iowa needs.
Mocco has something Iowa for the most part has been lacking as a team. Toughness, bully mentality. I’d be on board for him coming on to just piss them off before they step on the mat.
Mocco would mentally help Kueter. He needs more fight and confidence. Missing that edge that Mocco exudes in his sleep.
Ryan had a shot at sdsu but he turned it down
Massive difference between turning down an interview and an offer. Especially when better candidates are interviewing aka the guy who actually took the job.
Morningstar actually has been contacted many times and turned down a head job actually. At one time I thought maybe you knew stuff but I guess not
Wasn't just turning down an interview FYI
They are at some point in the near future. Then what do the yes guys do? Imo they have ridden the ship to the end when they had opportunities that are now not available.
Most top assistants dont apply for jobs they get contacted about head jobs. Head jobs will be opening they always do. Many programs would hire Ryan .
I would be okay if another program wants to steal Ryan away.
Hahaha..... I know plenty.
Did Gables assistants just get contacted? No, because they were great wrestlers they became coaches all over America. At one time I thought you knew stuff but I guess not.
Don't forget that I am the guy that has been calling for changes to our Staff for many years while the rest of you were still trying to understand the tailspin that everyone seems to see now.
Not sure what happened back then I was a kid.
By being contacted I mean reached out to and offered a position. You think Iowa assistants aren't contacted about other jobs ? Head meet sand
Wartburg? Grandview? Iowa city Regina?...not quite sdsu quality. Ship sailed.
I sometimes forget I'm talking with people who don't know what really goes on. Believe what you want but you're clueless
Majority is clueless but the majority always wins out right or wrong. Time will tell on this saga. I thought he was nuts for not leaving with an opportunity.
Yeah but again…I was talking about loyalty because that was the subject at hand. You seem to want to talk about something else now, which is fine, but just wanted to be clear you’re not just moving the goalpost, you’re moving to a different field. (And it isn’t that I necessarily disagree with you on the new subject.)
RE: Mocco no one is really advocating he would be a good hire. Though I do know the first guy that replied tried to find a positive.
If nothing else, he would have plenty of opportunities to at least be an assistant elsewhere. If he wanted to be.
hasn't the formula for wrestling HC been been set for decades? You hire the generational talent at the time and recruits follow and results follow. Gable, John Smith, Sanderson. Iowa should be focused on Spencer Lee or Nolf.
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Fans may have liked him but his own teammates didn’t. That’s not a good thing when looking for a coach.
Quit acting like you’re the smartest guy in the room and that you’re the only guy who realized that we needed change years ago. That’s a bad look and besides we already know that MSU is the smartest guy in the room always!
