WTF thought he would be the coach, I have been saying not a chance this entire time. I also never claim to be connected but I do get around and know that JB has nested and invested back in NJ. Now go eat your wheaties and go for a run
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yeah, came in a little hot today
i actually did go for a run today... it didnt help.
wouldnt be.. typo my bad. You still dont know ****...except he wont be the next coach at Iowa. we agree on that.I'm not pretending he would be a homerun
Have said on Rutgers board in the past thats the only place I see him coaching at. So not the gotcha moment that you think. I'm actually wearing flip flops today gonna be nice
There are a few posters here that mistake knowledge with wisdom. Notice they never say who they think should coach at Iowa that can address the issues with the program or even what it takes to get it to the next level. Being plugged into the gossip girl talk is everything to them…
JB would be a terrific coach at any program lucky enough to have him. His mat IQ and knowledge of the freestyle game far surpass his athletic skills.
There is definitely some posturing and leveraging going around for an anticipated head coaching opening in the future.
JB would be a terrific coach at any program lucky enough to have him. His mat IQ and knowledge of the freestyle game far surpass his athletic skills.
There is definitely some posturing and leveraging going around for an anticipated head coaching opening in the future.
All that is great but will he pull in top level recruits? I want to ensure we get someone who can attract the hammers!!2 time NCAA champ
6 time world champ
Olympic champion
Arguably the most decorated American wrestler in history
Growing wrestling academy
Recently expressed interest in coaching in college
Still in his 30s
Meh…”I would not even have JB on a list to call.”
Rutgers may not be in the B1G in the next 4-5 years. They may not be D1 if they continue to lose $50M+ a year.
JB's biggest asset would be his name recognition and his insane competitive mature. He would be great anywhere he went.
Prior to 2020 I would have said Rutgers would have been a fun place to develop a program into a contender - recruiting hotbed, should be able to convince administration this would be the sport you could "contend" in for little investment (compared to FB/BB), there was excitement at a decent number of their events. But their athletic program is in deep trouble, I would be worried that if they didn't get someone like JB, and soon, they may be next to look to cut, even then, probably too little too late. https://www.si.com/college/rutgers/...er-500-millions-since-they-joined-the-big-ten
Sooooo… can we just get one thing clear. Is it 100% FACT that Telford will be leaving after this season?
Agreed - house cleaning time. New era - new direction. I realize we have a lot of top recruits coming over next few years - but that's a ways off and sh*t happens.
Quoted for truth. So tired of hearing how great of a recruiter Morningstar is. We are in this mess because of awful recruiting. Period. End of story.
This gets used WAY too often and it simply is NOT true. Compared to PSU, they are way behind, but that is only because PSU recruits so much better than any team should realistically expect.
Iowa currently has Ferrari and Kueter, who were both top 1-2 lb4lb in their respective classes. Ayala, Kennedy and Arnold were all Top 5 lb4lb in their classes. So that is FIVE top 5's, so far. Ryder Block was #22 lb4lb in '23. DeLuca was #9, Ludington top 15 and Mocco currently sits 13th.
After that, they added Caliendo for 3 years and he has scored 33 NCAA points so far, with 1 year left. They also brought in Bailey with 3 years left to wrestle 2 seasons, having already AA'd. Peterson has proven to be a very solid stop gap to let DeLuca redshirt.
After all that they currently have the #3, 5, 14, 24 and 34 in the class of '27, with a lot of moving around left to be done. As of now, the class of 2028 nets them the #3 and #5.
On top of that they had Bassett, but decided the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
Now, they don't seem to land the SUPER ELITE, other than Spencer, when there seems to be 1 or 2 per year over the past 10 years or so, like PSU seems to and OkState looks to have done this year with Forrest. But, it simply is NOT true that they don't recruit VERY well.
If anything, their biggest knock is that they simply DO NOT get all their guys to March healthy and most of them are very beat up by their senior years. This especially sucks as PSU's top guys almost always have their best seasons as seniors...
Hamiti beating Levi and O'Toole back to back wasn't a feat accomplished by just sitting in the corner either.
Not claiming to be an insider. But that’s not why we are in this mess with recruiting.
Here is what I have heard, witnessed or know..
1. Our RTC sucks. Outside of Spencer and to some degree ADS who are these recruits coming to roll with? Now Buchanan will help.
But need the athletes. Would have been great to keep Woods. But I think it came to money between keeping him and Eireman. And Eireman gives the team a different feel. And now he’s gone.
2. Everyone that says Dennis shouldn’t be the coach doesn’t know the history. DD is Lee’s guy
They used to train regularly That was Spencer’s main guy. Now if anyone remembers when Spencer struggled his sophomore year. Dennis was called in to train with him.
3. I get it. Star isnt there to train them. He is the most out going guy that can talk to a brick wall.
But how do you get guys to come to roll with the likes of grinders and hand fighters. I love the Bull, and sorenson types. But do the recruits?
Here is what I have heard, witnessed or know..
1. Our RTC sucks. Outside of Spencer and to some degree ADS who are these recruits coming to roll with? Now Buchanan will help.
But need the athletes. Would have been great to keep Woods. But I think it came to money between keeping him and Eireman. And Eireman gives the team a different feel. And now he’s gone.
2. Everyone that says Dennis shouldn’t be the coach doesn’t know the history. DD is Lee’s guy
They used to train regularly That was Spencer’s main guy. Now if anyone remembers when Spencer struggled his sophomore year. Dennis was called in to train with him.
3. I get it. Star isnt there to train them. He is the most out going guy that can talk to a brick wall.
But how do you get guys to come to roll with the likes of grinders and hand fighters. I love the Bull, and sorenson types. But do the recruits?
You are right. All is good. We didn’t have a huge hole at 25 for several years at light weight U. There isn’t 40%of our line up being manned by folks that odds say probably won’t hit he podium. There’s no problem with losing massive recruits that were on the hook like Ramsey and Miller. Next year isn’t shaping up to be a **** show. It is all f’ing awesome.
Did you not read? I didn't pump that post full of sunshine. I simply pointed out who the actual recruits were and what they were ranked...
The not getting guys to NCAA's healthy enough to perform at their best, especially as seniors, is a REAL thing that has happened for too long.
Oh and your math AND memory is downright terrible. They had a hole at 125 for ONE SINGLE YEAR. 2025 was Cruz, who did qualify, but went 0-2.. This year they have Peterson, who is NOT remotely a hole. In 2024 Ayala took 2nd. Prior to that Spencer went 6,1,1,1 going back each year.
Who is Ramsey? Do you mean the Rainey's, whom they never actually had? Miller was never a part because the Bassett thing blew up beforehand.
Regardless of all that, saying their recruiting sucks just simply isn't remotely true. As I listed above the GLARING issue is not getting their guys to March at their best. Regardless of the reasons, Endenne and Williams were legit AA contenders, if healthy. They could have been the difference between truly contending for 2nd and fighting for 4th or 5th...
Can you point out the several years we had a huge hole at 125?
Edit to add: I’ll make it easy for you:
26- Peterson
25- Cruz
24- Ayala
23- Lee
22- Ayala
21- Lee
20- Lee
19- Lee
18- Lee
17- Gilman
16- Gilman
15- Gilman
14- Clark
13- McDonough
12- McDonough
11- McDonough
10- McDonough
Apparently 1 is several now.
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Meant Bassett and Miller. Sorry for that.
You continue to write paragraph after paragraph after paragraph excusing where we are at as a program. It’s a hell of a lot like pumping sunshine. Failures in recruiting are a part of the reason getting Endene and Williams to the end of the season is so painful
Recruiting has not been good enough to keep us even fighting for 2nd place this year. Objectively that makes it a failure. Maybe all those other excuses and a squinted eye could get you past that if next year was lining up to be good, but it’s not.
A couple months ago I wrote a post on staying optimistic. The season has not moved the direction it needed. I am pulling for the guys to kick *** this weekend, but the program is stumbling.
There's a fairly strong element of truth in here. Well said, overall.
The last section is key. All those high-level recruits and it's been 13 years since we signed a high school kid not named Spencer Lee who ended up at the top of the podium. It's a massive indictment of this coaching staff. Complete dereliction of duty.
I like the fact that JB is actively advocating for a D1 coaching job and you guys basically think it's a mastermind plot to land the prestigious Rutgers head coaching position.
So when will he become a D1 head coach ? Have you talked with him or anyone close to him ? I don't care what you believe but check my track record
. He was just in Coralville did anyone meet with him ?They also think JB is a one dimensional wrestler. They aren’t exactly grounded in reality.
“forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”
Gable 23:24
Come on Corby.So when will he become a D1 head coach ? Have you talked with him or anyone close to him ? I don't care what you believe but check my track record
It would literally take a Iowa to pull him away from NJ. Does he want to leave? is that his plan? no and no. But IF a blue blood called, paid him enough and gave him money for an RTC, he's taking it.
So when will he become a D1 head coach ? Have you talked with him or anyone close to him ? I don't care what you believe but check my track record
Hey I will give you this that you aren’t shy about making proclamations. And no I didn’t meet him in Coralville. Silly me, I should have just went and asked him if he was going to come to Iowa for a job that isn’t open yet.
I guess I will have to just wait until next offseason so we can revisit this topic. My guess is that we will have a better idea then.
Nice try to cherry pick him meeting with anyone. Where do you think most of Iowa‘s admins were that day? I will give you a hint a different state that starts with I.So when will he become a D1 head coach ? Have you talked with him or anyone close to him ? I don't care what you believe but check my track record
So when will he become a D1 head coach ? Have you talked with him or anyone close to him ? I don't care what you believe but check my track record
No idea. But I will defer to his own words over message board posters. Seems logical, yet here we are.
He never said he wants to be a D1 head coach . He talks about youth wrestling as well
You must be hearing different words coming out of his mouthI think another year like this one will result in a new coaching staff. It’s not realistic to project an improvement given all the talent graduating from the team so my guess is a move will be made.
If JB doesn’t show interest in the Iowa job then I doubt he coaches in college because there aren’t going to be any better jobs open for a long time. If that scenario plays out then I think you are right that a D1 job isn’t his priority. But I don’t think you are right so we will just have to see.
He has $. He has kids he wants to raise. D1 head job is 5am until bed 365 days year. If he wanted to be a coach so bad and it burned inside him he would be now. Being wishy washy about it isn't something that tells me he's ready to dive in
Eh. It didn't "burn inside" DT either until he was presented with a package unlike any since Carl got Ira to pony up.
It would take that level of investment and a school willing to go after him hard. And that's what he said after visiting DT in Stillwater. If a school can make the job easier with resources, why wouldn't you take the challenge?
Ok. I think you are wrong. He says it didn’t become apparent to him until visiting DT after Oklahoma State.. there hasn’t been a big job opening since then.
It’s about his desire to be the best. It’s about legacy. You think running a club and having nightly practices and weekends filled with coaching youth tournaments is much better? Think about having a youth club in the summer. Way busier schedule that involves more travel than a d1 HC job. It’s all a give and take with both having draw backs.
When NIL was pay for play that was the time to get in. Now with NIL GO very few programs have rev share $ to get the best guys who transfer.
He already has a legacy. We can agree to disagree time will tell