I agree with you. Iowa has wrestled well and has shown a ton of fight. This is the Iowa Hawkeyes, so I take for granted they will compete hard and win a bunch of matches. It would take a huge quarter final round and semi round to quiet the crowd (myself included) who believe the direction of the program has gone stale as a whole. Your point stands that the coaches have the team performing the best they have looked all season so far in this tournament and they absolutely deserve some props. I think the peak has been done correctly and now we will find out how high the peak is. Bailey has been really fun to watch. BK looks like he wants to win. Drake is looking like a very tough out. Mikey looks like Mikey. PK has not been his most aggressive self, but he has wrestled very smart and avoided his trouble positions. Gabe has just looked like a really talented guy wrestling less talented guys that are simply way bigger than he is. Fans should enjoy these guys no matter what as there are some really great dudes wrestling the last go around on this team. Side note- I have seen a couple of posts about need at 125 and I believe with Iowa's track record at that weight and Leo being an absolute stud Iowa will have a title contender at 125 as soon as next year. Everybody is going to enjoy watching Leo.
Coaching Staff Next Year
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As I have said before, we have disagreed on things, but you are very levelheaded and fair with your responses. I respect that VERY much!
So IF Iowa performs well in the quarters and let's say they win 3-4. Then let's say IF the team does well in the blood round and semi finals and so on and IF then they get let's say 6-7 AA's - will they be doing exactly what many expect TNT to do and that's have them ready for March? Lots of IFs, but if that all comes to fruition then maybe the coaches have done their jobs. But if IF's and but's were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas. I still think it is time for a change with at the very least new blood with an assistant.
Ditto. I obviously remain in the minority here, but I like the in depth knowledge of the sport you bring.
I am all for shaking up the assistants and even do like the idea of switching Terry to the HWC HC. However, by the rules, wouldn't that then mean he could no longer run practices? The rules seem to always be changing and many on here seem to think breaking some of those rules should be the norm.
So, you would then need to bring in an assistant they would be willing to let run practices, while figuring out what role Terry would still play. You guys love to say the times have passed them by, but Terry still has an incredible record with the lightweights and still has DeLuca waiting in the wings. I would still want him as involved as humanly possible with, at the very least, the light weights...
Number 1 - I am a rule/law follower and do not want coaches of the team I am a fan of to break them. Ever. Push it to the limit, but don't break.
Number 2 - Perception is often reality and there are times when a change is needed just for that. I am for a tinkering, not an overhaul.
I believe you are correct.
I also believe there’s no way he can make that change without giving up considerable income.
What is Leo’s health situation?? Nobody has said a word about him disappearing after his only match.
They’re expected to win nationals. This is Iowa. Or at least compete for the title into day 3. That means multiple National champs and easily a top 3 team, and within striking distance of the top team year after year, winning it frequently. Being happy to be a podium team and crazy far from 1st is a product of lowering the bar due to making excuses and acclimating to that new lowered standard.
Penn State is amazing, but they passed us and lapped us under TNTs watch. Now it’s looking like Nebraska and Oklahoma State may have passed us under TNTs watch as well. And many on this board want us to accept that and sing their praises because we’re performing somewhat better at this tournament than the low bar we’ve become accustomed to the past few seasons (and most of the past 15 seasons). Good grief.
If we essentially win out and take 2nd with a boatload of top 4 placers, I’ll change my tune because that would be indicative of a really positive step in the right direction. But I’m not convinced we should be singing praises for taking 4th. 4th is a bit better than expected after how we looked the past couple months, but it’s still not meeting the standards Iowa wrestling should hold with our tradition and fan support and resources.
Having said all that, I’m certainly relieved we’re wrestling much better than the past couple months as a team. And I do give credit to TNT that they got our guys looking pretty healthy for the big dance. That’s a positive for sure. Still, I think we’re past due for a change at the top.
This is why I said I was lukewarm heading into this tournament. I figured we’d wrestle better than the past couple months and that’s great and it’s a nice change. But we’re still far from where we need to be and should be and that’s not great and it’s not a change. But, it’s probably just enough to keep our administration from making the change at the top.
Okay hypothetically speaking who are a few guys you think would do well given the opportunity to coach. Not necessarily at Iowa but anywhere. Who has potential.
I would take:
Tom
Morningstar
Yianni
Kemerer
HWC:
Terry
for those asking about a HWT coach - you just need big guys in the room as you’ll have:
Ludington
Kueter
Buchanan
Michael Mocco
Steve Mocco
Spencer wanted to quit more than a few times. He ended up great!
GET TnT 4 MIL MORE and the ability to spend it as the wish and need TWOOOOO and there would be NO competition including the POS krailure and F*** st!!!!
You can do what ISU does and label every practice a club practice — this way anyone can coach and anyone can attend
Steve Mocco is going to be in the room?
How are you going to handle Terry’s compensation?
FYI Michael kicks his dads a*s currently. Steve isn't gonna be on staff these people are nuts
Very excited about how the guys have been wrestling the past day and a half - thrilled to see PK, Mikey, and Angelo make the semis, would have nice to somehow pull out one of the upsets - I don't count Angelo as an upset, more even match - but thats why they would have been upsets right? And I hope the others keep ripping up the wrestlebacks, and we have enough AAs to start our own meetings.
But the next 24 hours are only part of what will sell me on the future - that article by in the Registar laid out some pretty specific items that Tom will have to address; which starts the moment the transfer portal opens and we start seeing who is available, and who could be leaving. There are staffing questions which we've all weighed in on, obviously only my opinion matters, and then there's ticket sales. 20+% drops recently even more in actual scanned attendance; add losing the class we are, and they are a class, and they are class, without something to kickstart excitement, expect those numbers to continue to drop, and peaking in March to get top 4, even if that should be consider a solid accomplishment with what the lineup was looking like a month ago, might not be enough. Big time programs are big money as we all know, and those require more donor pipelines, and butts in seats, and lots of adult beverages and carver cones sold. This isn't senior level freestyle where it's acceptable that they are wrestling in front of a couple janitors in croatia.
But the next 24 hours are only part of what will sell me on the future - that article by in the Registar laid out some pretty specific items that Tom will have to address; which starts the moment the transfer portal opens and we start seeing who is available, and who could be leaving. There are staffing questions which we've all weighed in on, obviously only my opinion matters, and then there's ticket sales. 20+% drops recently even more in actual scanned attendance; add losing the class we are, and they are a class, and they are class, without something to kickstart excitement, expect those numbers to continue to drop, and peaking in March to get top 4, even if that should be consider a solid accomplishment with what the lineup was looking like a month ago, might not be enough. Big time programs are big money as we all know, and those require more donor pipelines, and butts in seats, and lots of adult beverages and carver cones sold. This isn't senior level freestyle where it's acceptable that they are wrestling in front of a couple janitors in croatia.
Are you suggesting they can’t figure that part out?
and yes, Steve will be in the room a lot especially with his sons
glad I can help you here
Are you suggesting he can’t help coach his son ? Where did I say he would be on staff? He will be in the room a lot. Ask Steve how nuts I am !
I actually liked you until now. Guess it’s just a matter of time before you wear on everyone
My nuts comment wasn't about you hence the these people .His name was mentioned as being on staff by people. He's obviously gonna be around when he's in town . I still like you
. If I wear on you hit the ignore buttonUnder grad at Iowa so I am alumni. Grad School ISU. I only became a PSU fan when Cael left. If Cael switched to Binghamton I would be a Binghamton fan.He's ok for a Penn st fan
So you've always been confused this all makes sense now
I have never looked into a mat sanitizer so there is that.
I do consider Angelo an upset considering he has had injury issues the second part of the season and has been limited in how much he can wrestle--The staff took a chance having him default out of B1G which maybe cost him the 5 seed. That he has reached the semis is a credit to him and the staff. I think that he keeps himself in such good shape that a fall off doesn't affect him as much as most. He has another killer up next so we'll see.
Oh no, guess we should keep everything the same. No changes. Genius plan.
I’m convinced you’re actually a PSU fan trying to lower the pitch forks from the Iowa base to help keep this same regime in place year over year.
SHHHHHush. Gobbling will be along to remind you that fourth is the new first. You think way too clearly.
Just heard Gwiz, not 1000% sure I trust this source though. He’s not generally a go to, but he’s not disconnected either. Pry shouldn’t even post this but **** it, im still mad about the Angelo match.
I wonder why he left Cornell? Seems like he would be a good addition.
It would make more sense considering hes been in Iowa City to train for short stints before.
That makes me want Meyer even more. Free the mind. Get creative
Kind of “eh” but when he went back to it at the end I started to feel like in the past he was adamant about everyone coming back. Might be wrong.
Yeah, maybe it's nothing but I thought it was notable he brought it up, relatively unprompted, and then touched on it again.
Do people on here still want schwab to take over after this years panther performance?
Regardless of how we got to this point, we could literally go out and get the best non psu/okl st wrestler in the nation at every weight, and still get third next year.