OK great for Ga T, but once again , what team with a +.500 regular season did Otis beat!
College Football Preseason AP Top 25 Poll
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Schedule wise, its not even debate who has the tougher one. UK always has and always will have the tougher schedule.
I give UofL all the credit in the world, they have masterfully built that program over the past 25 years. Beating cupcakes in crappy/average conferences to pump their record up and beat a few good teams when it counted (Florida being the biggest one).
They have taken some lumps such as the Kragthorpe era, but they got rid of him quick and made the right hire in Strong, sold their souls to bring back a proven winner in Petrino, recruit questionable yet talented misfits from other programs, and have been very lucky to recruit two good QB's who have panned out in a 5 year span.
Simply put, you can question how they have done it, but UofL has cashed in when they needed to and UK has not. Hopefully that starts to change soon. Until UK beats them again, its hard to say much else about them right now. Petrino owns UK and UofL as a whole has had their number the last 5 years. This rivalry goes in cycles and sooner or later UK will get the better end of it.
I give UofL all the credit in the world, they have masterfully built that program over the past 25 years. Beating cupcakes in crappy/average conferences to pump their record up and beat a few good teams when it counted (Florida being the biggest one).
They have taken some lumps such as the Kragthorpe era, but they got rid of him quick and made the right hire in Strong, sold their souls to bring back a proven winner in Petrino, recruit questionable yet talented misfits from other programs, and have been very lucky to recruit two good QB's who have panned out in a 5 year span.
Simply put, you can question how they have done it, but UofL has cashed in when they needed to and UK has not. Hopefully that starts to change soon. Until UK beats them again, its hard to say much else about them right now. Petrino owns UK and UofL as a whole has had their number the last 5 years. This rivalry goes in cycles and sooner or later UK will get the better end of it.
^^^^ I think he's got you there Public. I actually agree with your take pretty much on the top 25 and you and the others (WildCard etc) provide some good feedback most of the time, but it's all sort of with the backdrop of seeking some attention for your cards most of the time.
Fair enough Soupbean...
To sluggercatfan...posted the AP Top 25 last year when Louisville wasn't ranked...just something I do because it signals the start of College Football...didn't want to go into a UofL/UK thing for the reason ppl just spin in circles...that why I put the SEC Schools in Bold and even those in the Receiving Votes Category.
Again wish you guys a Successful Season and see you Rivalry Week....again my Prediction for Louisville is 9-3 & 6-2 in ACC Play....Ceiling of 10 Regular Season Wins and a floor of 7 Regular Season wins.
For Kentucky 5-7...a Floor of 4 Regular Season wins and a ceiling of 7 Regular Season wins.
By UofL standards they play a decent schedule this year. But that's only because the non conference schedule is stronger than most years. They play Houston who is a top 20 team along with Marshall and UK. Then you throw in games against Clemson and FSU and the top portion of their schedule is respectable. But the rest of their conference schedule is embarrassingly easy unless you consider games against the likes of Duke, NC State and Syracuse to be difficult. But none of those teams are likely even top 50 teams so they should be easy wins for the juggernaut that is UofL football lmao. Seriously anything less than 9 wins should be considered a huge failure imo. I bet UK would have an excellent chance at pulling off 8 wins with that schedule.
"spinning" what have you been doing this entire post?!!!
Don't go away quietly...just go away. 7-5 for both teams
Duke, NC St, and Syracuse are all as good as, if not better than Vandy, USCjr, and Missouri. You guys play one more cupcake OOC than we do, so shouldn't anything less than 8 wins be a failure for you guys?
I'm pretty sure an Auburn team that only went 2-6 in the SEC last year managed to beat your powerhouse team last year didn't they? So I think it's not much of a stretch to say that Vandy, USC and Missouri are better than middle of the pack teams in the ACC.
Probably correct RC ,so what does that tell you and PE where Otis probably would have finished.
It goes in cycles the West has been the much stronger side the last several years no doubt.
Actually they should've been 1-7 because we blew the game against them. But my argument is pretty simple. Auburn with as poor of a record as they had last year would've probably been the 4th or 5th best team in the ACC more than likely and won 9 games. So what I'm saying is you don't have to be that great of a team to win 8 or 9 games with the schedule that UofL plays. But year after year you guys like to puff out your chests every preseason like your some kind of powerhouse with National Championship hopes. It's just pure ignorance and I don't mind calling out UofL fans for it.
I think they have us about right at 25 to start the season actually. The offense should be better with the young O line having a year of experience and hopefully a functioning QB again and our defense should be one of the best in the country. I never trust Tenn's ranking in recent years until I see the wins on the field.
We did beat 4-4 A&M. Our schedule last year was tougher than yours, that's especially true if you take our head to head out of the equation.
Well considering A&M had their top two qb's tranfer out before that game it's a pretty meaningless win. But please continue on spinning the usual bs you guys love to cling to. Its certainly not very difficult to prove you wrong.
Thats the problem with the UL UK talk. People talk in circles. Credit can never be given. People live in ifa coulda shoulda worlds. If UK would have made that play, if UL played in the SEC, If UK played in the ACC, of my aunt had a set, if this player steps up, if that plauer lays down. Give credit, stop dealing in fantasy worlds and go with what is in front of you and I dont mean a beauty contest like a poll. At the end of the day there are numbers out there to support every argument. SOS ratings, Def ratings, off ratings etc etc etc. USE THEM.
Yet you walk into a UK UL thread on any message board in America and everyone deals in fantasy arguments??? WTF people. Is Idiocracy upon us (dont answer that question Millenials I dont want you to hurt yourselves). This is on both sides too not just us or them. Deal with the facts (like slugger posted) and youll get a lot farther than this constant cycle of my dads better than your dad stuff.
Yet you walk into a UK UL thread on any message board in America and everyone deals in fantasy arguments??? WTF people. Is Idiocracy upon us (dont answer that question Millenials I dont want you to hurt yourselves). This is on both sides too not just us or them. Deal with the facts (like slugger posted) and youll get a lot farther than this constant cycle of my dads better than your dad stuff.
Selective memory. You came back to this board (before disappearing for a while) to admit that you were dead wrong about your floor. You scoffed at 7-5 in the preseason when I suggested it. I do give you credit here for being one of the more reasonable UL fans, but you're forgetting your position on this topic.
Well said.
It does not hurt to say good job to the rival, unless you have all of your self-worth tied up in how others perform.
I try to avoid any Cat/Card discussions because of that very issue. You are dealing with 2 passionate fan bases that are not going to retreat from their fandomonium.
We own the basketball series, they own the football series (don't go into the history and number of wins, just look at the field) . If we want to debate it, we better will on the field.
Yes and no. I believe in giving credit where it's due, but also dealing with facts.
As an example, I have no problem giving them credit for owning us over the last 5 years. They do, we have no excuses. I have also consistently given them credit for taking advantage of their "moment in the sun" when they get it (e.g. beating UF in the sugar bowl).
I do have a problem with their perception of their own status b/c UL football is basically built on a false foundation of wins over bad teams, renegade transfers, and watered-down conferences.
It's possible to give them credit when it's warranted, while also pointing out the many things that are just WRONG about their institution, the way that it does business, and the blind lemmings that worship at the alter of said corrupt institution.