College Football Really Changed Rapidly

[PrestonyteParrot]

And not for the better.
The next thing you know there will be a National Signing Day for coaches if things continue the way they are going.

 

[18IsTheMan]

What can you do? Nobody wants to say "no" any longer. And if they ever actually do, athletes just sue and the courts always...and I mean always...side with them.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

Passing this pending legislation could help in some ways.​

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Overview of the SCORE Act​

The SCORE Act, or Student Compensation and Opportunity through Rights and Endorsements Act, aims to establish federal standards for college athletes' rights, particularly regarding name, image, and likeness (NIL) compensation. Below are the key pros and cons associated with the act.

Pros​

Standardization of NIL Rights​

• Establishes a uniform federal framework for NIL rights, replacing inconsistent state laws.
• Provides clarity and predictability for athletes and institutions regarding NIL deals.

Athlete Protections​

• Requires schools with significant athletic revenue to offer benefits like mental health services and medical coverage for injuries sustained during enrollment.
• Protects scholarships from being revoked due to performance issues or injuries.

Regulation of Agents​

• Introduces oversight for agents representing college athletes, including capping agent fees at 5%.

Preservation of Non-Revenue Sports​

• Mandates that schools maintain a minimum number of varsity sports, ensuring support for non-revenue sports.

Cons​

Limited Athlete Rights​

• Critics argue the act restricts athletes' earning potential by imposing subjective limits on NIL deals.
• Prohibits athletes from being classified as employees, denying them certain labor protections.

Antitrust Exemptions​

• Provides antitrust immunity to the NCAA and its member conferences, which could hinder athletes' ability to challenge unfair practices.

Potential for Inequity​

• The revenue-sharing model may disproportionately benefit athletes in revenue-generating sports, potentially harming non-revenue sports.

Lack of Athlete Representation​

• The act has been criticized for not adequately considering the voices and needs of college athletes in its formulation.

The SCORE Act represents a significant shift in college athletics, but its implications for athlete rights and institutional control remain contentious.
gmlaw.com CBS Sports

 

[bayrooster]

Passing this pending legislation could help in some ways.​

​

Overview of the SCORE Act​

The SCORE Act, or Student Compensation and Opportunity through Rights and Endorsements Act, aims to establish federal standards for college athletes' rights, particularly regarding name, image, and likeness (NIL) compensation. Below are the key pros and cons associated with the act.

Pros​

Standardization of NIL Rights​

• Establishes a uniform federal framework for NIL rights, replacing inconsistent state laws.
• Provides clarity and predictability for athletes and institutions regarding NIL deals.

Athlete Protections​

• Requires schools with significant athletic revenue to offer benefits like mental health services and medical coverage for injuries sustained during enrollment.
• Protects scholarships from being revoked due to performance issues or injuries.

Regulation of Agents​

• Introduces oversight for agents representing college athletes, including capping agent fees at 5%.

Preservation of Non-Revenue Sports​

• Mandates that schools maintain a minimum number of varsity sports, ensuring support for non-revenue sports.

Cons​

Limited Athlete Rights​

• Critics argue the act restricts athletes' earning potential by imposing subjective limits on NIL deals.
• Prohibits athletes from being classified as employees, denying them certain labor protections.

Antitrust Exemptions​

• Provides antitrust immunity to the NCAA and its member conferences, which could hinder athletes' ability to challenge unfair practices.

Potential for Inequity​

• The revenue-sharing model may disproportionately benefit athletes in revenue-generating sports, potentially harming non-revenue sports.

Lack of Athlete Representation​

• The act has been criticized for not adequately considering the voices and needs of college athletes in its formulation.

The SCORE Act represents a significant shift in college athletics, but its implications for athlete rights and institutional control remain contentious.
gmlaw.com CBS Sports

Regarding the "cons",

 

[SouthernBelly]

Yes, the way to fix it is more government

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

I'm waiting for unlimited eligibility (hi, Diego) and for guys who have a good first half to have their agent negotiate a big-money deal during halftime for them to play for the opposing team in the second half (redefining unrestricted free agent).

 

[SouthernBelly]

I'm waiting for unlimited eligibility (hi, Diego) and for guys who have a good first half to have their agent negotiate a big-money deal during halftime for them to play for the opposing team in the second half (redefining unrestricted free agent).

That first half thing could have cost the university a fortune against A&M

 

[18IsTheMan]

I'm waiting for unlimited eligibility (hi, Diego)

Something along those lines is inevitable. With them cracking the door in college basketball for G-League players to go back to college, it's really just a matter of time.

The absurdity is, you get guys who are in the 6th or 7th year of college and in their mid 20s playing against 19 year old kids fresh out of high school.
Kudos to Pavia on a great year, but he's a grown a** man out there. I think there should be a hard cap on Heisman eligibility. 23 years of age and/or w/in your 5-years out of high school window.

 

[kidrobinski]

Something along those lines is inevitable. With them cracking the door in college basketball for G-League players to go back to college, it's really just a matter of time.

The absurdity is, you get guys who are in the 6th or 7th year of college and in their mid 20s playing against 19 year old kids fresh out of high school.
Kudos to Pavia on a great year, but he's a grown a** man out there. I think there should be a hard cap on Heisman eligibility. 23 years of age and/or w/in your 5-years out of high school window.

I don’t necessarily disagree, but Diego Pavia is younger than Luke Doty and has been playing in college (assuming New Mexico military institute is ‘college’) for the same amount of time.

 

[Lurker123]

Something along those lines is inevitable. With them cracking the door in college basketball for G-League players to go back to college, it's really just a matter of time.

That G-league decision kills me. And I agree its just a matter of time before it bleeds into cfb.

Then we will recruit highschoolers, portal players and NFL guys that got cut.

What a mess.

 

[Spinal Tap]

My interest in CFB has dwindled significantly through the last 2 or 3 years. I have less connection with the sport including watching us play. I watched two full games this year - the first and the last. If I was still a season ticket holder I wouldn't even think about renewing now. That's previously unthinkable through the years. Saw a few quarters here or there, but that's it. It's saddens me.
I'm not built to accept the myriad changes in the sport so I spend my time elsewhere with occasional updates here and there on the boards.

I didn't mean for this post to be lamentations, but that's what I got.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

Yes, the way to fix it is more government

Some kind of regulation is going to have to happen to get this thing under control, but I don't think the NCAA is the answer.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Some kind of regulation is going to have to happen to get this thing under control, but I don't think the NCAA is the answer.

The courts have routinely shot down any attempt at regulation.

 

[Lurker123]

My interest in CFB has dwindled significantly through the last 2 or 3 years. I have less connection with the sport including watching us play. I watched two full games this year - the first and the last. If I was still a season ticket holder I wouldn't even think about renewing now. That's previously unthinkable through the years. Saw a few quarters here or there, but that's it. It's saddens me.
I'm not built to accept the myriad changes in the sport so I spend my time elsewhere with occasional updates here and there on the boards.

I didn't mean for this post to be lamentations, but that's what I got.

Agreed. The more professional its gotten, the less invested I am. Its a shame.

Something needed to be done to allow players to get some compensation, but we have just royally screwed it all up at this point.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

The courts have routinely shot down any attempt at regulation.

So, what is the answer, legislation?

 

[18IsTheMan]

So, what is the answer, legislation?

Presuming it wasn't challenged up to SCOTUS. And do we trust Congress to get anything right?

 

[Lurker123]

No, we do not trust congress to get anything right.

I've seen the generic "contracts" thrown out. Maybe get the guys to sign 2 or 3 year deals that bind them to a team. Might slow down the yearly rebuild.

But the legality would be challenged, as they are not employees, and the NIL dealnis not a pay to play.

Maybe just make them employees.

 

[18IsTheMan]

No, we do not trust congress to get anything right.

I've seen the generic "contracts" thrown out. Maybe get the guys to sign 2 or 3 year deals that bind them to a team. Might slow down the yearly rebuild.

But the legality would be challenged, as they are not employees, and the NIL dealnis not a pay to play.

Maybe just make them employees.

The players definitely don't want to become employees.

 

[Lurker123]

The players definitely don't want to become employees.

They dont. The schools could then get contracts, and maybe install some limits.

 

[gamecock stock]

My interest in CFB has dwindled significantly through the last 2 or 3 years. I have less connection with the sport including watching us play. I watched two full games this year - the first and the last. If I was still a season ticket holder I wouldn't even think about renewing now. That's previously unthinkable through the years. Saw a few quarters here or there, but that's it. It's saddens me.
I'm not built to accept the myriad changes in the sport so I spend my time elsewhere with occasional updates here and there on the boards.

I didn't mean for this post to be lamentations, but that's what I got.

You pretty much summed me up there. Thus, just realize you are not alone.

 

[gamecock stock]

I could be wrong but, I think its the SEC and the Big 10 who are standing in the way of bringing normalcy and common sense back into college football. That's just speculation on my part, as I know little and claim less.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I could be wrong but, I think its the SEC and the Big 10 who are standing in the way of bringing normalcy and common sense back into college football. That's just speculation on my part, as I know little and claim less.

They are only interested in one thing: how to make the most money possible.

College football has ballooned into a nearly $10 billion/year empire. It's a behemoth.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

They are only interested in one thing: how to make the most money possible.

College football has ballooned into a nearly $10 billion/year empire. It's a behemoth.

As long as we watch, the networks will pay, and the profits will continue to grow.
Until it reaches the point that we don't enjoy watching and actually find alternate entertainment, nothing will change.

 

[gamecock stock]

They are only interested in one thing: how to make the most money possible.

College football has ballooned into a nearly $10 billion/year empire. It's a behemoth.

And that's why I point my finger at them.

 

[bayrooster]

No, we do not trust congress to get anything right.

I've seen the generic "contracts" thrown out. Maybe get the guys to sign 2 or 3 year deals that bind them to a team. Might slow down the yearly rebuild.

But the legality would be challenged, as they are not employees, and the NIL dealnis not a pay to play.

Maybe just make them employees.

I read that as "the NIL denies it's a pay to play"

 

[Anon1742573506]

As long as we watch, the networks will pay, and the profits will continue to grow.
Until it reaches the point that we don't enjoy watching and actually find alternate entertainment, nothing will change.

I have YouTube TV and missed a couple games. Initially was outraged but then realized I actually enjoyed my Saturday not being imprisoned by watching us loose. I'm sure I'm in the vast minority.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I have YouTube TV and missed a couple games. Initially was outraged but then realized I actually enjoyed my Saturday not being imprisoned by watching us loose. I'm sure I'm in the vast minority.

I watched the least amount of football I have all year. VaTech is the only game I watched wire-to-wire.

 

[Lurker123]

I read that as "the NIL denies it's a pay to play"

My typing is atrocious on this phone. I think it was "the NIL deal not a pay to play". But I continually add an N instead of a space. Its just the proximity on the phones keyboard.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

My typing is atrocious on this phone. I think it was "the NIL deal not a pay to play". But I continually add an N instead of a space. Its just the proximity on the phones keyboard.

I have that same issue.