Before the game I thought we would have lost today or tomorrow, so it is what it is. As for Collins, it's been 8 years and the team is awful.
I found myself being miserable watching the vast majority of our games this year. That’s multiple years in a row now that this has happened. My 6 year old twins have started rooting for the opponents because “Northwestern never wins”. Things have to change. All the other sports at this school can achieve success. We can’t be this consistently awful.
That’s the bottom line. With a couple of exceptions, it just hasn’t been any fun to watch NU games the last few years.
And changing coaches guarantees that for a few more years. I'm willing to keep the coach for one more year and see what he can do next season when he finally has seniors.
A sign of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results......
Really - that’s the bottom line? It’s not fun to watch? Give me a break, and give the coaches and players some credit. We are so much more athletic than years past, and at a level that’s much closer to most teams now. We are trying to play the game that recruits want to play, and we’re competitive in way more games than any time in the last 34 years I have been watching. We just aren’t quite as talented basketball-wise up and down the lineup, and that has overall consequences that aren’t always pretty or “fun”. But our enjoyment factor is not the bottom line. This is still college athletics, and that means something to NU and many of its supporters.
We've had one coach EVER who took us to the Big Dance. And that was after inheriting a complete rebuild from Carmody. He built that team.
Doubled our conference win total this season, so we did get BETTER results. No seniors; I expect further improvement next season.
It's been 8 Years, and just 2 wining seasons. The last 4 years NU finished 10th, 14th, 13th and 12th. All of the players have been Collins recruits, coming off the unicorn NCAA season you reference. NU has the facilities to compete now, just doesn't have the players or the player development you expect of a B1g 10 program. And that is on Collins and his staff.
I HAVE criticized Collins in the past (especially about the Vassar situation). If he doesn't win next season with HIS seniors, then I'll be calling for his head, too. That would mean that this rebuild has failed.
1) 2/3 of the big don’t have a guard at the BMac level.Imagine where this program would be with Lathon!
Oh stop looking back. What we have now is far different than anything anyone else ever had. Hell I hated Carmody but he was playing with different tools.
Just having somebody to bring the ball down the court without turnovers would be something.Imagine where this program would be with Lathon!
"Solidly better than Nebraska" who NU barely beat with a bucket in the last 3 seconds at home after leading by 16 points.........
Thanks for the reply. My point was really that being fun to watch is not the criteria to judge them. I totally agree it’s not fun overall to watch the last few years, and we’ve had some good moments in the past that you point out. But I don’t agree that not being fun to watch is an outright indictment of the coach or players / is the key lens to view things. In my view, we are closer to achieving success than what we all think. For example, shots we take now are often rushed because guys don’t get the ball quickly in the right spot. If we can get some guys to distribute the ball better, things can improve a lot quickly. And things generally must get worse before they get better, especially when you are trying to make long lasting, real change (i.e., play like the big boys play and find the guys that can play that way).
I just don’t buy that facilities are a top determinant as to where a basketball player chooses to play. Look at Duke. There are many reasons we still / always struggle to recruit.
That’s the story of NU hoops. Ditch the academic standards and level the playing field or keep banging your head against the wall.
