"They get to decide what programs are important." I agree with that. However, I can say that NU discriminates against athletes (talent), which is my underlying point (since intelligence is physical). They or you don't have to agree with me.
If anything, one could argue that NU discriminates in admissions in favor of athletes (good and probably necessary for a P5 school). I would also argue that NU values athletics very highly, just based on the amount of capital invested in facilities, and funds invested each year in scholarships for athletes. You really cannot judge whether or not a school "values" its athletes based on competition results or even admissions.
I would say the University values the idea of athletes, not the athletes themselves, as much as they do purely academic students, thus the discrimination. We live in the shadow of the dark ages.
No we don't. It's just that your progressive buddies keep telling you that life sucks more than ever and it's all gone to hell. Things are actually a lot better than they were 1,000 years ago.
Do you need me to explain what a shadow is? Things are a lot better than they were 50 years also.
If you mean the actual Dark Ages, and not the 2 decade period in which our football team was dreadful, I believe they were more like 1000 years ago. Five hundred years ago was the middle of the Renaissance.
And the NU Dark Ages are over too. We have $300 million invested in athletic facilities with more to come.
oh that last line made me laugh out loud.
The institution is a research powerhouse, especially in medicine and technology. We also do pretty impressive stuff in the performing arts.
Thats quite an elegant statement. Thanks for writing it.
My suspicion is that by the time a kid is ready for college, the die have already been cast. I believe that NU works hard to diversify its student population, but it can only go so far beyond the very limited range of intelligence + good study habits that are required to be successful at NU. I think our public education system is really letting a lot of kids down to the point where NU (or any Ivy, or Stanford, etc.) is really a pipe dream.
We are on our third rodeo (child). As a paying customer, we ask two questions: 1) what percentage of student in (insert) major graduate in four years? 2) Are the core courses to graduate for (insert) major offered every semester and also in summer? one school said it measured graduation only in terms of six years. The child was not allowed to apply there. As to the core course question, my first two scholars showed a proclivity to eff up, but we are/were able to keep them on track to be done in four years since they could pick up the core courses the next semester.
You are my gloom and doom, and why I need Prozac, since you don't seem to recognize that the $300 million invested in athletic facilities (with more to come) is not an investment in the athletes, it is an investment in the alumni, and they are who are willing to pay the bill.
A response to your incorrect assumptions, but it's your bedtime, so go to sleep.
Northwestern already lowers its academic standards for athletes.
I know they do. It is not really a beef as a recommendation for course correction. I'd be satisfied if they apply the same standards to supurb athletes as they do for, as you say, phenoms in other areas. Maybe they already do that, in which case you are correct, I don't have a gripe. I just don't believe they do, but how would one know that?
W you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You really think I meant they should hire coaches as academically qualified as their students? I'm contrasting that to what appears to be current athletic admissions policy.
Unfortunately, on this board if you post something vague or hypothetical, there are people who will claim eternally that you said some distorted version of what you were half-kidding about.
Stpaulcat?? I know that guy... he's a nihilist!I consider myself fairly open to new ideas (when I am not derisively shooting them down).
That said, I am not sure the fattest brain dart on the planet would help me understand St. Paul's post. It reads like some sort of manifesto, but there is no "man" and nothing worthy of a "fest."
I believe his post had to do with VietnamI consider myself fairly open to new ideas (when I am not derisively shooting them down).
That said, I am not sure the fattest brain dart on the planet would help me understand St. Paul's post. It reads like some sort of manifesto, but there is no "man" and nothing worthy of a "fest."
Ya gotta miss in order to eventually get a hit. Isn't .333 a decent batting average?
I have spent time in hyperbaric chambers around the world, and regret you never responded when I channeled you to commune. How could I know you were preoccupied with your ouiji board.
You nihiled it! NU remains in the shadow of that which produced the dark ages, in not valuing athletes to the same degree as the academics. This, in spite of huge investment in athletic infrastructure. I know the guys who give the money, highly respect their dedication to not making NU into the University of Chicago and hope NU will realize equality in admitting students of singular talent, whether it be athletics or academics.
Better wait - they could still win the BTT!!
I'm entirely interested in what people think SHOULD happen, not what they would. I'm also interested if people are sticking to their original guns or not (ie, if you said he should be kept regardless, but after watching a poor finish you decided actually no, screw it, fire him ) from their original vote.
It’s not wise to count chickens on January 26, but I like this post from last year.
