Consider Yourself On Notice- Police Open Letter

[Lord_Crow]

They just want to retaliate in any way they can against the "system" for it's that system, represented by cops that is responsible for their lot in life.

They are responsible for their lot in life, not the cops. The cops are simply a reflection of going where their customers are. If you have 12% of the population committing the vast majority of crime then guess who the cops' best customers are going to be?

That said, it in no way excuses the militarization of our police force and indeed that is a contributing factor to the problem. When people feel as though they are under siege then there will inevitably be breaking points. So when you have all these cops in all these minority neighborhoods reacting to what they see as chaos and that the locals see as unfair systemic oppression, then you have all the necessary ingredients for a tender box.

So don;t be surprised when they ignite.

 

[makersmarkambassador]

Charging a cop while swinging a metal pole at him is clearly justification for shooting. These activists look like fools saying otherwise. I heard one of them saying that the officer should have used his knight stick to subdue the suspect.

Yeah I saw on the news where the community stated he also could have used his Taser. Sorry, but if the suspect is high, or drunk, a Taser is not going to stop him right away. His adrenalin was probably going to keep him up and charging with the pole, maybe. If the office thought his life was in danger, then he has the right to protect himself. What if the officer didn't pull his gun out and the suspect hit the officer on the head with the pole knocked him out. Then the suspect would have had the officer's gun and who knows what he would have done afterwards.

The people who complain about police officers should sign up to become an one. Put up or shut up.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

A little clarification.
1. Nobody knew there was video evidence until later. All of the eye witnesses, on the record, stated that the victim never had a pole, never picked up a pole and certainly never swung a pole.
Then the video came out, making the community wonder why all the eye witnesses blatantly lied.

2. Even after the video surfaced, a significant part of the city believed he used excessive force, targeted him because of race etc etc. These people were interviewed on TV stations, quoted in the paper etc etc.

The letter wasn't just a random rant. There was substance behind it. I can see his point.
And just FYI, he actually hit the officer so hard with it he broke it.
Also, the guy has a long history of assault, resisting, disorderly etc. Good riddance imho.

The shooting was iffy to me, but justified. Only reason I hesitate, is because MAYBE a taser or pepper spray couldve subdued the subject. But thats a big maybe.

We know eyewitness testimony is always unreliable. But why blatantly lie? Because there are certain groups in this country who try desperately to create civil/racial unrest. For many, its a way to get their name in the media. For others, its a way of just trying to create chaos. For the media, it means non stop viewership, clicks, and papers sold.

Either way, they all looked stupid after the video was released. That includes the media, who was clearly hoping this would become a ferguson type response.

Why does the community always choose to get behind the absolute worst examples of "police brutality" possible? There is no waiting until all the facts come out before choosing sides any more. It makes everyone else think of you as the boy who cried wolf one to many times and eventually everyone else besides you will stop giving an ish. jmo

I always find this odd too. One of the worst instances of police murder ever was the Tamir Rice shooting in Cleveland. The police lied, then video proved they just rolled up and shot the 12 year old. But noone cared. The media barely covered it. No Al Sharpton. No Jesse Jackson. No around the clock news coverage. Why? This is a case that clearly needs action/attention and its not getting it. Just strange.

 

[numberonedad]

Okay, I was against the police in the Garner case and the Baltimore shooting, but this is absurd. If you run at a cop swinging a pole, you're gonna get shot.

Either stupid, on drugs or both.

i agree with you on all counts. the guy got EXACTLY what he deserved.

 

[VT/UK Rondo]

They are responsible for their lot in life, not the cops. The cops are simply a reflection of going where their customers are. If you have 12% of the population committing the vast majority of crime then guess who the cops' best customers are going to be?

That said, it in no way excuses the militarization of our police force and indeed that is a contributing factor to the problem. When people feel as though they are under siege then there will inevitably be breaking points. So when you have all these cops in all these minority neighborhoods reacting to what they see as chaos and that the locals see as unfair systemic oppression, then you have all the necessary ingredients for a tender box.

So don;t be surprised when they ignite.

Who calls the cops to these "minority neighborhoods"?

 

[mdlUK.1]

They are responsible for their lot in life, not the cops. The cops are simply a reflection of going where their customers are. If you have 12% of the population committing the vast majority of crime then guess who the cops' best customers are going to be?

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Don't know how you did it but you have me quoted and it was not my quote. It was ram1955.

 

[rmattox]

They are responsible for their lot in life, not the cops. The cops are simply a reflection of going where their customers are.

Just as schools are not responsible for the ills of society. Schools reflect society.

I should have said they want to retaliate against the system they blame for their lot in life. It's not cops fault, nor is it the fault of society in general that certain minorities are responsible for a significant portion of crimes committed in our country. Solution: These people should recognize their problems are self inflicted. They could solve many of the problems they blame on racism if they'd just decide to and be committed to doing so.

 

[VT/UK Rondo]

This case is a prime example as to why the police should want body cameras.

True, but then you lose the anonymity of talking to witnesses at the scene and in the community, which is how the vast majority of crimes are solved. People dont want to be labled a snitch within their community especially urban communities and most arent going to talk to police If they fear what they say will be taped. As much as they might want to do the right thing, they arent going to at the risk of their own well being.

 

[3 fan_rivals214492]

I saw them interview several blacks, none of them looked like drunks and they all said the cop shouldn't have killed the guy. One said shoot him in the leg. One said use taser. Others just said he shouldn't have been shot.

So, basically, even with video evidence, they are saying the cop was wrong.

It would be interesting to see how many AA were asked by the reporter that said it was a valid shooting. After watching the tape if you think he should not have shot you are an idiot

 

[3 fan_rivals214492]

Z, look at Baltimore. Minorities lose their mind and rob liquor stores and such. Police stay away. Crime goes through roof and same people who wanted the police out of the area are demanding they come back.

 

[BlueKel_rivals210266]

My thoughts are that the contents of the letter are 100% correct. The number of individuals who rushed to to that shooting scene and jumped in front of reporters recorders, microphones, and TV cameras making irresponsible inflammatory comments was truly disgusting. Almost as though certain individuals WANTED Louisville to become Ferguson or Baltimore, they were flicking lit matches around hoping it landed into a pool of gasoline somewhere in the city and then enjoy the fire.

Yep, eyewitnesses flat out LIED about what happened. Saying the criminal never swung the pole at police. FALSE.

And that was the intent of the letter. Calling out those that have an agenda, always trying to make the police at fault for doing their jobs. Focus on the real problem - the criminals.

 

[Lord_Crow]

Should have gotten the liars to sign an official statement then once they lie in that then they are cooked.

But what you can't do is write a stupid letter basically threatening freedom of speech in a misguided attempt to act like a superhero. The letter writer didn't do the cops any good and in fact handed a lot of ammo to anyone that in the future wants to claim the cops are overreacting.

 

[Bigtyrone]

White people have it made. Why question their own authority?