We are in the strongest allegiance in college sports. OOC will mean so little.
Just make the playoffs. EVERY YEAR.
Just make the playoffs. EVERY YEAR.
Continued GARBAGE OOC scheduling from Penn State (& James Franklin)
- Thread starter SoCalLion
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No longer as simple. For the foreseeable future, PSU does not play OSU and Michigan in the same season. However, in four of the next five it plays either OSU or Michigan AND two of the three USC, Oregon, or UDub. The problem arises if PSU is among, say, four Big Ten schools with two or fewer losses and PSU hasn't beaten any of the others.
So now we are worrying/complaining about POTENTIAL future scenarios? First world problems.
I was really just talking about the perceived anti-PSU bias of any selection committee.
Screw the “local economy”. This argument should only be about PSU football.
State College & the locals have made more than they deserved on the back of the football program.
Yep. A clear 1st or 2nd place finish in the B10 (or SEC) is going to pretty much guarantee the postseason.
But looking at history over the last decade+, the chances of identical records at the "breakpoint" (3rd/4th, or 4th/5th place) for in-or-out of the postseason is over 75% (ie, Far more often than not, there will be the need to decide between two teams of identical records. What is going to impact that decision?)
Who knows? No one really. It is pretty much a crapshoot - and that won't change whether there are 4 or 12 or 14 or 16 in the postseason. But there is a pretty good shot that a big disparity in whether one team had high quality ooc games or not will be one of the few true differentiators. What will the folks (including coaches) who loved the idea of gorging on cupcakes think when/if their team is left at home?
Over the last 10 years (not counting 2020) these are the number of regular season losses for teams in the new Big Ten with the best records.
There are 4 years, maybe 6 (if there is expansion to 14 or 16 teams) where Penn State would have an argument for being included in postseason based on record - but they make zero of them unless they win an "eye test tie breaker" on something other than W-L record.
Number of losses) Teams
2023 Season
0) Michigan/Washington
1) Ohio State/Oregon
2) Penn State/Iowa
2022 Season etc
0) Michigan
1) Ohio State/USC
2) Penn State/ Washington
1) Michigan
2) Ohio State/Oregon/Michigan State/Iowa
0) Ohio State
2) Wisconsin/Penn State/Oregon/Minnesota
1) Ohio State
2) Michigan
3) Penn State/Washington
0) Wisconsin
2) Ohio State/Penn State/USC/Washington
1) Ohio State/Washington
2) Michigan/Penn State/Wisconsin
0) Iowa
1) Michigan State/Ohio State
2) Northwestern
1) Oregon/Ohio State
2) Michigan State/Wisconsin
Sir, on this board please don’t let “facts” get in the way of a good “agenda” from the Koolaide drinkers.
PS: Drinkers - I have NO dog in this fight. PSU Football should & will do what they choose, but to die on the mountain that it MUST be done a certain way is a bit perplexing.
I'm not worried about a thing. Someone suggested a scenario and I had a different viewpoint. Maybe you should buy this site from Shannon Terry, then you can decide what is permissible to discuss.
I could care less about the greedy State College CofC. Are they paying for any of my hotel, travel or other expenses? I think not.
So cut back on the Arts Festival-who cares.
And they’re the same people that spend countless hours telling everyone how bad a coach Franklin is, yet they want him to schedule tougher OOC opponents….hmm, interesting.
And the same people who complain about the State College businesses profiting off of PSU football, then when the business closes and gets torn down for a high rise apartment or parking garage, they complain that State College isn’t the idyllic college town it was 50 years ago.
Complainers gonna complain.
Of course, this thread was never really about scheduling, it was just another way to take a backhanded shot at CJF.
I'm not complainging about CJF at all. He has to do what he has to do for the program. Just win baby.
As for the greedy folks / businesses of State College, that is something to complain about.
