Could the U.S. withstand a 2 pronged invasion by Canada and Mexico?

warrior-cat

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Biggest threat would be gorilla forces already in country doing things like drone strikes on key installations, airfields, and civilian infrastructure. Some country like China hitting the GPS satellites wouldn't be fun either.
Which is the point one poster above missed (not surprised) and is just one reason why many levelheaded and intelligent Americans want a secure border and vetted immigration.
 

Kaizer Sosay

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I am more worried about the US defending itself from the ongoing invasion of the 2 pronged crown of the green manalishi.
 
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UKWildcats1987

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Doubling down on stupidity - like your statement that there is some contradiction between noting the U.S. could easily defeat the Mexican army while also wanting a secure Southern Border —is never a successful strategy. It only draws atttention to, and reinforces the initial stupid observation.

Yeah, he acts like Mexico is soviet Russia and Canada is the allies of ww2 and we are Germany facing a 2 front war. Not the same thing lol.
 

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America: Be our 51st state, Canada.
Canada: No.
America: You know you want it.
Canada: Please stop being weird.

America: We would kick Mexico's ***! Point blank period.
Also America: We're being invaded by hordes of Mexicans! They're taking over!

The answer is yes but we also thought similar about Vietnam. It'd be interesting to know specifics for this scenario as well. Are we the aggressors trying to take over North America? That'd be the only reason both countries would attack us where we live.
Crazy that someone could be so ignorant that they don't see the difference between an armed conflict versus migration. Sadly however I am not surprised.
 

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My WW2 vet grandpa always told me he was amazed Japan surrendered so quickly after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He said if the tables were turned and Japan had bombed LA there would be people in the mountains prepping for a long term ground war
It would have taken Japan a few more months to build that 3rd bomb to take out the mountain folks.

 
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*CatinIL*

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From what I've read, Mex has 9 of these F-5 aircraft. That doesn't seem right. Maybe @HymanKaplan has more knowledge of what Mex actually has. I figured they'd at least have some have some F-16's.
 
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I recently rewatched Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds and Hans, the Jew Hunter, compared Jews to rats. You may want to stay away from the "rodent" comparison for anyone in the future. Don't think you meant anything by it but that made me cringe like hell. My point is that Americans believe we'd kick Mexico's *** with a quickness...while also complaining that Mexicans are "taking over" the country. I just find that funny, same as saying we've got lots of guns so victory! What does that even mean? My dad has guns. That doesn't mean if push comes to shove he's going to arm up and begin shooting as if we're in The Last of Us. That's that civil war fantasy some folks won't let go of.

Nineteen hijackers in 2001 changed America forever, nearly 3,000 people died, and we put ourselves in two wars in the Middle East, one lasting around a decade while the other lasted two decades. All of that because of 19 terrorists. Now let's say we're being attacked by one country directly to our north while the country directly to our south does the same. That wouldn't be an easy victory for our side. And if we had started it (because why would CN and Mex want a war with us to begin with?), we're in it alone, unless Putin wants to "help" us.

Hall Monitor: 19 hijackers changed America forever, killing nearly 3,000 people.

Also Hall Monitor: Why are you complaining about a wide open border that lets in millions of illegals?
 

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I have been out the news loop recently. I understand the animosity towards Mexico.

Why are we beefing with Canada again? Seems dumb.
 
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Because Canada is weird, too big for their britches, and doesn't want us to tariff their stuff.

I read a few weeks ago that a certain Canadian politician had proposed a ban on all products from States that voted for Trump, and who had a Republican Governor. I thought that was cool how it was worded specifically so they could still get Kentucky bourbon. I don't think it was passed.
 

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Because Canada is weird, too big for their britches, and doesn't want us to tariff their stuff.

I can’t say I’d blame them.

I had no idea about the 51st state thing until about 10 minutes ago. Of all the fish to be frying, this certainly is a dumb one.
 

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For Japan, it’s a negotiating point, but I think Japan will be a good partner at the negotiating table. The many other factors being what they are.
Yes, it's strange how Japan is probably our second closest ally now to Great Britian. There are Japanese people still alive that were alive when we dropped the bombs.
 
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Beatle Bum

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Yes, it's strange how Japan is probably our second closest ally now to Great Britian. There are Japanese people still alive that were alive when we dropped the bombs.
There are a handful here who were alive during the war, too. And, yet, Germany, Italy, and Japan are allies. Yup.
 

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I can’t say I’d blame them.

I had no idea about the 51st state thing until about 10 minutes ago. Of all the fish to be frying, this certainly is a dumb one.
The 51st state thing is taken way out of context. Trudeau ran with it because Canada's economy is tanking and has been for over 5 years. He had to find someone to blame. Trump told Trudeau that if he couldn't exist without ripping off the US then maybe he should just become a state. Somehow that got spun into us invading them...
 

UKGrad93

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I don't see our military having trouble with either one. However, I think Mexico would become an even more dangerous place due to all of the drug lords. I would rather have Mexico as it is now.
 

Beatle Bum

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The 51st state thing is taken way out of context. Trudeau ran with it because Canada's economy is tanking and has been for over 5 years. He had to find someone to blame. Trump told Trudeau that if he couldn't exist without ripping off the US then maybe he should just become a state. Somehow that got spun into us invading them...
No sane person thinks we will invade Canada. Trump is trolling Canada, with a smidgeon of possibility. I love the geography of Canada and some of its cities are fun to visit, but I would not want their attitude. We have that in Cali already. Don’t need more.
 

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They could do it it w/o even getting the military involved. LOL

Hell, Texas alone would WILLINGLY enjoy the "sport"

It's practically their wet dream.

On a serious note, it wouldn't last a fortnight.

the US is essentially impervious to ground invasion, PERIOD. By anyone.
No ****. These scenarios assume we would not see them moving troops to the border and, if we chose, dispose of that nonsense post haste.
 

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If allowing fentanyl labs to ship directly to US and allowing known terrorist watch list people to cross the border with no notification is "minding their own business".... glad we aren't neighbors. LoL


-the real issue(for me) is trade deficit... they've been going in raw since the Clinton administration. Needs to be balanced out.

^ that said I love Canada. Montreal/QC is an amazing trip, as is Vancouver and BC in general. May hit New Brunswick this summer.
 
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Just did a quick check...according to Wiki:
Canada has 74 Leopard Main Battle Tanks (MBT's)
Mexico wasn't listed but when I did other internet searches, it looks like Mex doesn't have any MBT's
United States has 2509 M1A1 or M1A2 MBT's. Granted, a lot of those are overseas.

So, in this hypothetical scenario of the US vs the MexCan's... a ground war doesn't appear to be a very good option for the MexCan's.
 
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UKWildcats1987

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Just did a quick check...according to Wiki:
Canada has 74 Leopard Main Battle Tanks (MBT's)
Mexico wasn't listed but when I did other internet searches, it looks like Mex doesn't have any MBT's
United States has 2509 M1A1 or M1A2 MBT's. Granted, a lot of those are overseas.

So, in this hypothetical scenario of the US vs the MexCan's... a ground war doesn't appear to be a very option for the MexCan's.

Mexicos ground forces would be like the African people fighting Italian tanks n the mid 1930s with spears and sticks and rocks.

Mexico does have one thing n common with the soviet army of ww2 I mentioned earlier n the thread. A lot of cannon fodder.
 

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I recently rewatched Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds and Hans, the Jew Hunter, compared Jews to rats. You may want to stay away from the "rodent" comparison for anyone in the future. Don't think you meant anything by it but that made me cringe like hell. My point is that Americans believe we'd kick Mexico's *** with a quickness...while also complaining that Mexicans are "taking over" the country. I just find that funny, same as saying we've got lots of guns so victory! What does that even mean? My dad has guns. That doesn't mean if push comes to shove he's going to arm up and begin shooting as if we're in The Last of Us. That's that civil war fantasy some folks won't let go of.

Nineteen hijackers in 2001 changed America forever, nearly 3,000 people died, and we put ourselves in two wars in the Middle East, one lasting around a decade while the other lasted two decades. All of that because of 19 terrorists. Now let's say we're being attacked by one country directly to our north while the country directly to our south does the same. That wouldn't be an easy victory for our side. And if we had started it (because why would CN and Mex want a war with us to begin with?), we're in it alone, unless Putin wants to "help" us.
You make a Vietnam analogy in one post, but its not relevant bc we are more like them in the sense we know our own terrain, and b, our entire populace is armed...then add on top our military.

The question is how nato would play out as both us and Canada are nato countries...I'd say we win out bc everyone wants our $$$$. Besides Canada will fold, tgen good luck to Mexico, i guess. Cool strawman about illegal criminals crossing the border tho.