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krup

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Go on the BC, SU and Pitt boards.
And think they were saying FU to RU 20 years ago...karma my friends karma.
Lost in all of the news of the last couple of days, is that UConn was being considered as the 14th B12 team if the PAC12 stayed intact after Colorado left, and even was approved by ESPN and Fox, only to have the rug pulled out from under them by the PAC12 collapse.

It couldn’t have happened to a more deserving fanbase.
 

Mr. Magoo1

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Count our blessings…but it’s never a good idea to be one of the dregs of the league for too long. How long until the Ohio States, Michigans, Alabamas, Georgias, etc., of the world get tired of equally sharing revenue with NW, Vandy, and dare I say “us”. If nothing changes, perhaps our location will protect us.
 

sct1111

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Count our blessings…but it’s never a good idea to be one of the dregs of the league for too long. How long until the Ohio States, Michigans, Alabamas, Georgias, etc., of the world get tired of equally sharing revenue with NW, Vandy, and dare I say “us”. If nothing changes, perhaps our location will protect us.
I don't think we can ever be a Ohio State, Alabama etc. but we can certainly be something like an Iowa. Just have to create a culture and maintain it sort of like what basketball is doing. I think Greg is establishing that.
 

Onceler

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UConn's boneyard is in shock right now. They were so convinced that they were getting into the B12 that they were practically booking flights for upcoming seasons. At first they thought they would be added with SDSU. Then with Colorado. Then with Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State.

They can't seem to understand why no conferences are willing to extend a bid to one of the country's most valuable athletic programs.
 

ru109

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Count our blessings…but it’s never a good idea to be one of the dregs of the league for too long. How long until the Ohio States, Michigans, Alabamas, Georgias, etc., of the world get tired of equally sharing revenue with NW, Vandy, and dare I say “us”. If nothing changes, perhaps our location will protect us.
That. If teams want to just keep what they bring to the table I like our chances.
 
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Lost in all of the news of the last couple of days, is that UConn was being considered as the 14th B12 team if the PAC12 stayed intact after Colorado left, and even was approved by ESPN and Fox, only to have the rug pulled out from under them by the PAC12 collapse.

It couldn’t have happened to a more deserving fanbase.
I think the ACC could be in their future down the line.
 
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RUGuitarMan1

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Count our blessings…but it’s never a good idea to be one of the dregs of the league for too long. How long until the Ohio States, Michigans, Alabamas, Georgias, etc., of the world get tired of equally sharing revenue with NW, Vandy, and dare I say “us”. If nothing changes, perhaps our location will protect us.
Absolutely , I think this will be the next issue which many are overlooking. Things can change very quickly in this environment.
 

ru66

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Count our blessings…but it’s never a good idea to be one of the dregs of the league for too long. How long until the Ohio States, Michigans, Alabamas, Georgias, etc., of the world get tired of equally sharing revenue with NW, Vandy, and dare I say “us”. If nothing changes, perhaps our location will protect us.
So you're factoring in basketball too as dregs? And what about Indiana in football ?? Your entire premise is just paranoid nonesense.
 

wheezer

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Count our blessings…but it’s never a good idea to be one of the dregs of the league for too long. How long until the Ohio States, Michigans, Alabamas, Georgias, etc., of the world get tired of equally sharing revenue with NW, Vandy, and dare I say “us”. If nothing changes, perhaps our location will protect us.
Any arrangement of unequal distribution would have to be voted on by the entire
membership
It would seem easier to pass that in a smaller conference
All the recent additions are not powerhouses now, you would figure they would be no votes, along with us

Now, I previously supported the idea of bowl teams keeping a larger percentage of that bowl revenue, and it would seem fair to let them have a bit more, beyond that travel stipend in place

But no to any regular season unequal distribution, it would cause problems
 

bitnez

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Realignment can cut both ways. OSU and Michigan had enormous pull 7-8 years ago. Now they are 6 news faces in the room. The voting dynamics have changed.
 

RUScrew85

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UConn's boneyard is in shock right now. They were so convinced that they were getting into the B12 that they were practically booking flights for upcoming seasons. At first they thought they would be added with SDSU. Then with Colorado. Then with Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State.

They can't seem to understand why no conferences are willing to extend a bid to one of the country's most valuable athletic programs.

Well they DO have a girl's basketball team.
 

RUGuitarMan1

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So you're factoring in basketball too as dregs? And what about Indiana in football ?? Your entire premise is just paranoid nonesense.
No BB is not dregs but let’s be real here, football drives the bus. All of this movement isn’t happening because of other sports, it’s football. I don’t think RU is going anywhere but you don’t know if in the future, the conferences create some kind of tier system, money dictates everything. RU needs to improve at football for sure.
 
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Knight Shift

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No BB is not dregs but let’s be real here, football drives the bus. All of this movement isn’t happening because of other sports, it’s football. I don’t think RU is going anywhere but you don’t know if in the future, the conferences create some kind of tier system, money dictates everything. RU needs to improve at football for sure.
Other than last season when a new coach took over and a 3 year run under Chris Petersen, Washington has been very mediocre at football since 2000. The same could be said for UCLA, except when Jim Mora was coach, but after his firing in 2015, they had 5 straight losing seasons.

One can look at any program, except for perhaps schools like Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, etc, and cast stones at their "record". Rutgers obviously his a very rough patch starting in 2015, but hopefully we are pulling out of the rough patch. From 2008-2020, over 13 seasons, Purdue barely had 3 winning seasons at 7-6 each of those three years. In the bigger picture, many people realize that hiring the "wrong" coach can set a program back and it can take time to recover.
 

Nycrusupporter

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Realignment can cut both ways. OSU and Michigan had enormous pull 7-8 years ago. Now they are 6 news faces in the room. The voting dynamics have changed.
That’s all true, but I would still bet that anyone in the conference would think long and hard before getting on the wrong side of OSU and Michigan, and it’s hard to see them as anything other than the leaders of the conference for the foreseeable future.
 

SantaFeScarlet

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Loser fans gonna continue to think like loser fans. Would hate to live in some of these people's shoes. OP rips Pikiell on the basketball board and fawns over Hurley at UConn. Tells you all you need to know about OP.
Chop- thanks for clarifying that b-ball drives the bus in conference realignment. I am delighted where we are in conference realignment, as is every RU fan.

Hurleys team won a Natty this year while Pikes team got knocked out at home in the first round of the NIT.... Thats's giving credit where credits due for Danny Hurley. Let's hope Pike lands Dylan and see how far he can get his teams to go in the Tourney... Right now Pikes won one game in the Dance. Stating his opinion over facts tells us all all we need to know about Chop.
 
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MADHAT1

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I belive Cal and Stanford fans are feeling like we did when Rutgers had to move to the AAC instead of the B1G or even join up with the ACC.
 

krup

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This site is a pretty good troll job. Feel bad for the remaining four in the PAC-10

No one should feel bad for Stanford and California. They were the leaders of the movement that killed several attempts by the PAC12 to ensure their long term survival by adding other teams because they felt the additions were beneath them.
 

Nycrusupporter

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No one should feel bad for Stanford and California. They were the leaders of the movement that killed several attempts by the PAC12 to ensure their long term survival by adding other teams because they felt the additions were beneath them.
Keep that in mind when people wail about how important it is for any additions to be AAU schools.
 
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Saint Puppy

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Don't see major college sports jumping the shark any time soon - but man, they certainly deserve to with all this nonsense! This is what happens when there is no leadership and the inmates run the asylum.
 
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JayDogSmooth

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If just FSU leaves it makes sense. Watching them squirm now is enjoyable, though.
After landing KJ Bolden tonight, we squirming our way to a top 5 class

With Greg doing work on The Banks and Mike laying it down in the 850, things are looking up for the boys from P-Way & Tally
 

krup

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After landing KJ Bolden tonight, we squirming our way to a top 5 class

With Greg doing work on The Banks and Mike laying it down in the 850, things are looking up for the boys from P-Way & Tally
That wasn’t a shot at FSU. The squirming part is enjoying UConn suffer at the B12 miss, because their fans have always been insufferable.
 
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Knight Shift

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Chop- thanks for clarifying that b-ball drives the bus in conference realignment. I am delighted where we are in conference realignment, as is every RU fan.

Hurleys team won a Natty this year while Pikes team got knocked out at home in the first round of the NIT.... Thats's giving credit where credits due for Danny Hurley. Let's hope Pike lands Dylan and see how far he can get his teams to go in the Tourney... Right now Pikes won one game in the Dance. Stating his opinion over facts tells us all all we need to know about Chop.


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Knight Shift

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No one should feel bad for Stanford and California. They were the leaders of the movement that killed several attempts by the PAC12 to ensure their long term survival by adding other teams because they felt the additions were beneath them.

Seems ASU's Crow deserves most of the blame? From The Athletic (Paywalled):

From that point forward, the presidents, led by Scott’s principal champion, Arizona State’s Michael Crow, gave him anything he wanted — and what he wanted most was to launch a media company that he would run for a princely salary (eventually $5.3 million).

Scott’s ill-advised strategy to launch the Pac-12 Networks without a proven media partner like ESPN has been well-documented. The bizarre seven-channel model struggled to gain distribution and never came close to delivering its projected revenue figures. It became an albatross from which league members could never escape.

But it wasn’t just Scott who screwed this up. As The Athletic recounted last year, the league in 2015 had a deal in hand to finally get the network on DirecTV — and the presidents, led by Crow, rejected it. Were this the SEC, they would not have been allowed back at work the next day. But that’s not how they do things out west.


 

brgRC90

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Don't see major college sports jumping the shark any time soon - but man, they certainly deserve to with all this nonsense! This is what happens when there is no leadership and the inmates run the asylum.
It's a cautionary tale for rah rah libertarians who think a world without referees would be paradise. In reality, it's chaos and a place where the big sharks devour everyone and rent-seek. College athletics is the only place where they don't have a very powerful central office. Not coincidentally, for football at least, it's the most non-competitive sports league imaginable where the same teams win year after year.
 

MADHAT1

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Hurley's team won a Natty and Pike's got knocked out in round one of the NIT at home..... alternative facts???? You must be drinking early today.
seems like basketball material.
But Danny Boy took over a traditional power that was 2 years removed
from playing in the tourney from a HC that was 127-79 there and had a National Championship himself there
Ever hear of Jim Calhoun the program he ran made Connecticut one of the best and Danny Boy profited by that when going after talent
Pike took over garbage and is making Rutgers into a good program, greatness is yet to be obtained.
Some comparisons need to look at who;e picture and not just part of it.
Hurley is a good coach in a great situation and he's good enough to take advantage of it
Talent had no problem looking at UConn as a program to commit to

Pike entered a bad place and is just now making it into a good program after slowly improving the program.
Talent gave Rutgers a wide berth, but now are starting to look on it favorably .
 
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