Similar resulting protection benefits I think, but I understand they work differently. So "equal" as the word choice is unclear to me. But I accept natural immunity as sufficient vaccination at this point in time.
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Yeah, equal is still yet to be determined but natural immunity may very well be better than vaccine+boosters. There seems to be more data in favor of that rather than against it right now, but again I would love to see more concrete scientific data one way or another at some point very soon.
Not sure if serious. Measles vaccine is given around 1 year old with a booster given around 4 years old. Polio vaccine involves FOUR doses given from infancy until around 4 years.
As for giveaways and threats, they are required for attending school. And I usually got a lollipop afterward.
Is there evidence that ANY vaccine is better than the natural immunity, for ANY disease?
My wife just lost a family / church friend since childhood to Covid after a 4 week battle, left 4 young kids. We don’t know if he was vaccinated, but last year he was posting Covid is a hoax stuff on FB 
Latest research out of England (not peer reviewed yet): Pfizer/BionTech reduces transmission by 65%, AstraZeneca by 36%. Moderna and J&J were not included in the study. Delta variant
Good question. It’s definitely more powerful with Covid based on multiple studies. I’m very pro vaccine but also believe that anyone with antibodies or T cell response from previous infection should be exempt from vaccine mandates.
The reason for vaccination is better control of risk.
You just said the same thing as the person you responded to. One dose at 12-15 months, second dose at 4-6 years. The problem here is the ambiguous use of the word booster vs series.
I mean, we're arguing semantics here. Getting a shot then 3 years later getting another shot (or for polio, a total of 4 doses) can be called whatever you want. Kind of like how Pfizer is calling their 3rd shot a booster and Moderna is just calling it the 3rd dose in the series. I'm sure you got one measels shot as an infant and another as a young tot. Call it two doses, call it a booster. Same rose.
And, luckily for us, measles and polio are diseases that once immune, you stay immune for life. Not so for the Tetanus, diptheria, pertussis vaccine - that one has recommended boosters every 5 to 10 years throughout adulthood, because immunity wanes and if you don't stay up to date, you're vulnerable (and with Pertussis, at risk of transmitting it to infants for whom it's very dangerous).
Just calling what the CDC said about measles. They said no boosters.
CDC is calling for boosters for the Covid vax. Two shot or 1 shot from the 3 and the additional booster. Israel is on the second set of boosters.
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I had to get an MMR booster earlier this year for my current job because the titer said my immunity had worn off.
Feel free to just admit you were wrong about the boosters with other vaccines and move on, good lord. I’ve gotten like 6 tetanus shots in my life.
My wife just lost a family / church friend since childhood to Covid after a 4 week battle, left 4 young kids. We don’t know if he was vaccinated, but last year he was posting Covid is a hoax stuff on FB
I want those mofos from China who are responsible for this dead
You don’t HAVE to get a flu shot. I worked as a Neuro ICU RN and an ER CNA for years, never once did they make me get a flu shot. Just saying.
As of 4 years ago, our system does and every other one around here, too.
Well, I haven’t been an RN for a decade so that’s definitely a possibility that policy has changed. That being said I usually get one anyway, just wasn’t mandated by the hospital.
My hospital system requires the flu vaccine and nearly every other vaccine too
Wasn't wrong. Stated exactly what the CDC said. Said no boosters.
Had early childhood vaccines. No boosters.
Congrats on the word play victory and digging your heels in on your point. It’s always very productive having arguments with political people on both sides when they never want to admit anything they said/did is ever wrong
That’s all that matters man, gotta be right.
Yes you did. Several of your childhood vaccines require boosters
No I didn't. I took the allotted shots per the CDC guidelines.
It looks like Joe Biden has killed a lot of people with vaccines in 2021.
He's just getting started!
Oh wait, were not supposed to be excited over that. My bad.
My kid needs them before entering 6th grade or else isn't allowed to come back to school.
so do we know where the novel coronavirus originated from yet ?
mutation or lab developed?
Ooops... maybe not safe for everyone...
BTTT
So who here hates the unvaccinated? I keep seeing celebrities like here, saying awful things about the unvaccinated. My wife is a fed gov employee, and despite putting in for her exemption, faces a November 9 insubordination disciplinary proceeding, which they have promised will result in termination.
Meanwhile the Moderna shot killed my mother dead in about 12 days. Miscarriages are through the roof, and Delta only appeared when widespread vaccinating was happening, and is now receding now that vaccinations have plateaued. Of course giving yourself a huge shot of spike protein would turn you into a walking Covid monster. But it's the unvaxxed ruining everything, right?
Any one else facing uncertainty due to Biden's illegal mandate?
So who here hates the unvaccinated? I keep seeing celebrities like here, saying awful things about the unvaccinated. My wife is a fed gov employee, and despite putting in for her exemption, faces a November 9 insubordination disciplinary proceeding, which they have promised will result in termination.
Meanwhile the Moderna shot killed my mother dead in about 12 days. Miscarriages are through the roof, and Delta only appeared when widespread vaccinating was happening, and is now receding now that vaccinations have plateaued. Of course giving yourself a huge shot of spike protein would turn you into a walking Covid monster. But it's the unvaxxed ruining everything, right?
Any one else facing uncertainty due to Biden's illegal mandate?
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