Covid and vaccinations

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Gassy_Knowls

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I didn't read it closely, but it looks like that death rates are higher for unvaxxed, but you catch it more easily if you're vaxxed.

Kind of a Catch 22 (if i read that correctly)... hardly worth mandating a vaxx (especially if you already have antibodies).

Death rates are catching up pretty quickly
 

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“Trust our vaccine … er … booster. Trust our booster!”
 

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The reason people aren’t trusting the vaccines are because it was utilized at a political tool for the campaign and Fauci has moved around and lied everywhere he’s been for political reasons.

I can tell them this. The day you start trying to force our kids to get it, is the day the country revolts and D’s are going to lose a lot of elections. More don’t trust the government right now than do.
 

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The new analysis was conducted as part of TOGETHER — an international collaboration launched last year to test multiple repurposed medications in placebo-controlled experiments at the same time. The study’s adaptive design allows investigators to remove treatments from the study when statistical analyses show the drugs offer no benefit, as has been the case for the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine and for ivermectin, a drug commonly used against parasites (SN: 8/2/20).
 

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The reason people aren’t trusting the vaccines are because it was utilized at a political tool for the campaign and Fauci has moved around and lied everywhere he’s been for political reasons.

I can tell them this. The day you start trying to force our kids to get it, is the day the country revolts and D’s are going to lose a lot of elections. More don’t trust the government right now than do.

Don't worry, Jameslee will be along to post fake news propaganda
 

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The reason people aren’t trusting the vaccines are because it was utilized at a political tool for the campaign and Fauci has moved around and lied everywhere he’s been for political reasons.

I can tell them this. The day you start trying to force our kids to get it, is the day the country revolts and D’s are going to lose a lot of elections. More don’t trust the government right now than do.
 

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This is amateur. No one is talking about the original rollout. Fauci has lied, repeatedly, and the media has lied, repeatedly, creating a situation where very few believe more nonsense coming out of the entities. As a matter of fact, everyone from mainstream leftist politics were the FIRST to downplay the vaccines until it became political beneficial to support it.

For some people it’s as simple as reading more. Quit watching YouTube and read the articles in real time. Until you do it’s not worth debating partisan nonsense with people who have bought into party tribalism.
 

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Any liberals want to take a stab at why India's death rate is 1/6th of ours?


Let me help you: look up "Ivermectin"... that, and the false classification of "Covid" deaths here in the US should just about cover it.
 

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This is amateur. No one is talking about the original rollout. Fauci has lied, repeatedly, and the media has lied, repeatedly, creating a situation where very few believe more nonsense coming out of the entities. As a matter of fact, everyone from mainstream leftist politics were the FIRST to downplay the vaccines until it became political beneficial to support it.

For some people it’s as simple as reading more. Quit watching YouTube and read the articles in real time. Until you do it’s not worth debating partisan nonsense with people who have bought into party tribalism.
🤣 That video is from September 18, 2020, less than 2 months before the election. The right started politicizing covid, mask wearing and vaccines and continue ad nauseam to this very day. Nice story though Morgy and welcome to the anti-vaxx thread as the morons have taken it over as their very own.
 
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🤣 That video is from September 18, 2020, less than 2 months before the election. The right started politicizing covid, mask wearing and vaccines and continue ad nauseam to this very day. Nice story though Morgy and welcome to the anti-vaxx thread as the morons have taken it over as their very own.

James it should be embarrassing to actually lead one to believe you support the state of the D party. I can’t stand either of them, but the D’s are just a running joke. If you’re not embarrassed to actually claim them, then you should do what I suggest and read a little more.

I don’t actually hold it against guys like you. Political science isn’t something that’s easy to grasp as most believe. But get moving I know you’ve got it in you to see the nonsense.

For you to suggest the D’s didn’t start the politicization of covid is just a head scratcher. The initial “fear” of the vaccine started when head D party politicians cast doubt on it when trump had it rushed through. It’s not a story, it’s how it happened.
 

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James it should be embarrassing to actually lead one to believe you support the state of the D party. I can’t stand either of them, but the D’s are just a running joke. If you’re not embarrassed to actually claim them, then you should do what I suggest and read a little more.

I don’t actually hold it against guys like you. Political science isn’t something that’s easy to grasp as most believe. But get moving I know you’ve got it in you to see the nonsense.

For you to suggest the D’s didn’t start the politicization of covid is just a head scratcher. The initial “fear” of the vaccine started when head D party politicians cast doubt on it when trump had it rushed through. It’s not a story, it’s how it happened.
😂
 

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What's this rhetoric:



Also, what's this all about. Haven't seen much media coverage of it


Florida is 7th amongst US states in most cases per 1 million. Florida also ranks third in total # of active cases.

The top 11 states in cases per capita are all Republican led. #RepublicanDeathCult

And that doesn’t even include any out of state people who test positive after getting down there because DeSantis wants to cook the books.
 
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Florida is 7th amongst US states in most cases per 1 million. Florida also ranks third in total # of active cases.

The top 11 states in cases per capita are all Republican led. #RepublicanDeathCult

False
 

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Florida is 7th amongst US states in most cases per 1 million. Florida also ranks third in total # of active cases.

The top 11 states in cases per capita are all Republican led. #RepublicanDeathCult

And that doesn’t even include any out of state people who test positive after getting down there because DeSantis wants to cook the books.
False. You can find this everywhere on the net.

 
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Look, I agree with a lot of what you say, but comparing snapshots in time on "rates" of infection is foolish.

Of course florida is dropping. Everybody has gotten covid or is vaccinated.

The better way to examine the stats is to look at the overall infection and overall death rate since the start of the pandemic.

The reason states with low vax rates had bigger issues with covid since the summer is because we had less immunity in our populations. It's just a reality. it doesn't mean we are dumber or stupid. It just means we had less immunity. Natural or through vaccines. It's a virus. That's how it works. Nothing stops it but immunity or completely shutting down. These half *** shutdowns don't work.

Florida has a very high infection rate for several reasons.

A. Senior population - more likely to develop symptoms and/or die
B. Transient state. hard to contain the virus when so many people come to your state.
C. In younger populations they have a low vaccination rate. Overall vax rate is ok. But that's centralized in the senior population.
 
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Meanwhile I’ve been living my life the entire time. No mask, no shots, haven’t missed a beat.

If you’re old stay home, if you’re young / kid enjoy your life, if you’re scared stay home.

Problem solved.

What we shouldn’t do is allow politics to interfere. Looks to me like the D’s are looking at restructuring America and using covid as a reason to implement their long awaited socialistic policies. Don’t fall for it. We don’t know who’s running the country today and none of this is good.

forcing young kids to forgo their life has been one of the nastiest tactics I’ve ever seen. People should be ashamed of themselves but the greatest generation isn’t here. The ones who actually felt shame when they were wrong.
 

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Meanwhile I’ve been living my life the entire time. No mask, no shots, haven’t missed a beat.

If you’re old stay home, if you’re young / kid enjoy your life, if you’re scared stay home.

Problem solved.

What we shouldn’t do is allow politics to interfere. Looks to me like the D’s are looking at restructuring America and using covid as a reason to implement their long awaited socialistic policies. Don’t fall for it. We don’t know who’s running the country today and none of this is good.

forcing young kids to forgo their life has been one of the nastiest tactics I’ve ever seen. People should be ashamed of themselves but the greatest generation isn’t here. The ones who actually felt shame when they were wrong.

They’re just getting started. Soon they’ll be full speed ahead with the program to force useless shots into the arms of school children, coupled with the propaganda campaign in the schools to spread the political science ******** they’re using to support their drive to funnel as much taxpayer money into big pharma coffers to fund future political donations as possible.
 

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Meanwhile I’ve been living my life the entire time. No mask, no shots, haven’t missed a beat.

If you’re old stay home, if you’re young / kid enjoy your life, if you’re scared stay home.

Problem solved.

What we shouldn’t do is allow politics to interfere. Looks to me like the D’s are looking at restructuring America and using covid as a reason to implement their long awaited socialistic policies. Don’t fall for it. We don’t know who’s running the country today and none of this is good.

forcing young kids to forgo their life has been one of the nastiest tactics I’ve ever seen. People should be ashamed of themselves but the greatest generation isn’t here. The ones who actually felt shame when they were wrong.

Good post Morg. I am vaccinated but totally get where you are coming from. Nothing should be forced or used as a political agenda. My body, my choice- isn't that the mantra? Reeks of hypocrisy.

Your last paragraph though...man that hits home. Couldn't agree more.
 
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