CSN: Growing concern with scheduling
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I really think it is time for IHSA to go to districts broken up by enrollment and geography, play an 8 game district schedule with 1 non district game scheduled by the schools so they can keep prior rivalries intact. Every 4-6 years re- district based on enrollment changes.
Something has to change because the current system is broken and only getting worse by the year.
Something has to change because the current system is broken and only getting worse by the year.
"How about letting the IHSA take over scheduling?"
No thanks! I still like the schools to have the power to do the scheduling.
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No thanks! I still like the schools to have the power to do the scheduling.
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The only way I would agree to every team making the playoffs is if they reduced the classes to 5.
The regular season is for finding the top teams to enter into the playoffs. The playoffs are not for every team. You have to earn it. It's up to each school to determine which conference is best for them and their students and who to play in the non-conference games.
Football is also not all about being the champion. It's about molding students teaching them life lessons on the field that they can transfer to everyday life for the rest of their lives.
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Football is also not all about being the champion. It's about molding students teaching them life lessons on the field that they can transfer to everyday life for the rest of their lives.
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Yes, those who created the basketball playoffs are all angry Cub fans who felt the only way the Cubs could make the playoffs over the last 100 years is for everybody to make the playoffs regardless of what they did in the regular season. It's the "Everybody Deserves A Trophy Mentality".
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Everybody makes the playoff in basketball because you can play more than one game in a week. You cant play every 2 days in football. That is the ONLY reason they don't have every team make the playoffs.
But you use to have a game Wednesday then right back at it Saturday...... Either way not everyone should make the playoffs in football there would be sooooooo many routes n just awful games
If there was some configuration of 8 games and everyone makes the playoffs there will be no "molding students teaching them life lessons on the field that they can transfer to everyday life for the rest of their lives?"
I don't buy that for one second.
iF everyone made the playoffs - there would be some dangerous games in the first rounds with teams so overmatched that safety comes into play.
The "everyone gets a playoff trophy" is also not real life. You have to earn things in the real world.
If you really wanted to have everyone make the playoffs - have a couple of preseason games to help with seeding and then playoffs start in mid/late sept. The public teams that lose then go into a losers bracket so they can play their 9 games and the privates head to the prep bowl which I think they do now when they get knocked from the playoffs.
The "everyone gets a playoff trophy" is also not real life. You have to earn things in the real world.
If you really wanted to have everyone make the playoffs - have a couple of preseason games to help with seeding and then playoffs start in mid/late sept. The public teams that lose then go into a losers bracket so they can play their 9 games and the privates head to the prep bowl which I think they do now when they get knocked from the playoffs.
Is the purpose of high school sports to find the single greatest individual(s) or is it to give athletic opportunity to the greatest number of individuals?
I don't think those are mutually exclusive goals. I think we can have everyone in, with Week 9 becoming round one - BUT - it has to be fair: the records - and the strength of schedule should be taken into account when seeding the brackets. No more of this 9-0 CPS team counting the same as everyone else.
I don't think those are mutually exclusive goals. I think we can have everyone in, with Week 9 becoming round one - BUT - it has to be fair: the records - and the strength of schedule should be taken into account when seeding the brackets. No more of this 9-0 CPS team counting the same as everyone else.
I think if you have every team make the playoffs in IL eventually a multi-state, maybe Midwestern states playoff system would develop and the usual strong teams in the state will opt out of the IL playoff system and instead enter the multi-state championship playoffs. Just my take on it.
Thus the IL all-in playoff system would turn into the minor league playoff system.
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Thus the IL all-in playoff system would turn into the minor league playoff system.
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In my opinion a lot of the scheduling issues could be solved by having a true strength of schedule factor built into the playoff seeding. In 2015, if team would have lost to both Whitney Young and Loyola Academy they would have received the same number of Playoff Points - 9. The LA points should be worth much more than the WY points.
Use one of the national computer polls or a combination of computer polls for the seeding. Reward teams that schedule tough games.
Use one of the national computer polls or a combination of computer polls for the seeding. Reward teams that schedule tough games.
That's a great idea that would solve some of the problems. How does the college system do it? I'm sure a 9-0 FCS team does not rank as high as a 9-0 FBS team - but how do they determine "team strength" accross divisions like FBS and FCS?
Strength of schedule is not the issue with a all-in playoff schedule. The problem with a all-in playoff schedule is the pre-season games which are the first 8-9 games of the season are meaningless.
Then you have weeks 9-12 or 10-13 in which the strong teams will play 1-2 added blowout games in the playoffs in addition to the 2 games of blowout football they are already playing in the 1st and 2nd round of the current playoff system (in which the power teams blowout the opponents by at least 5 TD's). So with the all-in method the power teams will now have their first 4 playoff games as blowout games instead of the current system when some have 2 blowout games already.
With the all-in approach the power teams are now playing meaningless football for the first 12-13 games of the season. These power teams will be looking for competition somewhere else and a very competitive multi-state playoff system would likely emerge and IL playoff football is going to look aweful.
I know the state is bankrupt and the IHSA wants to make more $$ with more playoff games but let's not ruin IL High School football.
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Then you have weeks 9-12 or 10-13 in which the strong teams will play 1-2 added blowout games in the playoffs in addition to the 2 games of blowout football they are already playing in the 1st and 2nd round of the current playoff system (in which the power teams blowout the opponents by at least 5 TD's). So with the all-in method the power teams will now have their first 4 playoff games as blowout games instead of the current system when some have 2 blowout games already.
With the all-in approach the power teams are now playing meaningless football for the first 12-13 games of the season. These power teams will be looking for competition somewhere else and a very competitive multi-state playoff system would likely emerge and IL playoff football is going to look aweful.
I know the state is bankrupt and the IHSA wants to make more $$ with more playoff games but let's not ruin IL High School football.
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I guess I am not seeing the problem with playing out of state schools. Hell, some of the schools in our conference are on the Indiana border anyways.
What is the connection between the state of Illinois being bankrupt and the IHSA wanting more playoff games (which as of right now is not the case)?
Look at the forfeits each year with CPS not having enough to play or dropping football all together.Teams like Harvard suffer and lose a home game and home gate.I think Illinois needs to start football the same week as Indiana.Not sure on the all in the playoffs thing but who knows.