CWS ranked last by SDS

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Lol Florida fans last year were telling me how much better our stadium looks. Vandy and Mizzou are trash...Arkansas should be ahead of both of those. SDS is a bunch of guys who use opinions and assumptions to make picks. Same group of people who didnt have Boom as a top 10 SEC RB last year preseason. And half way through the season Boom wasnt even a top 5 SEC East RB according to them. I would literally (no joke) take information from a 10 year old SEC fan before I would these fools.
 

Soupbean

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Helps to keep in mind that these articles are always billed as SDS or ESPN, or Yahoo Sports or whoever ranks this or that but in actuality every time it's really just "this random guy's" opinion, nothing else. They don't poll everybody at an organization when these ranking articles come out.

In this case based on the start of the article it's a sports nerd of some kind that wrote it sitting over his raspberry latte at Starbucks and only goes to games to see the bands.
 
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PushupMan

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I feel dumber for having read that.... South Carolina's stadium is #1 because his grandfather helped build the upper deck and because he knows a whole bunch of trivia about the stadium, including that there is a chicken restaurant across the street.

The only criteria he used to rank the stadiums was which stadium he knew best.

I guess that's a clever way to increase the number of site clicks ... disguise an article about someone's granddad being a stadium architect as a ranking of all 14 SEC stadiums. Yuck!
 
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As a part of my retired bucket list I'm in the process of attending every venue in the sec...so far I've seem SC ..MSU..ut..Mizzou..vandy..LSU..Ga. This season we will be taking in Ala & Fla. With all changes that have been made to CWS , so far I've not see one place that is any prettier than CWS...now if you want to talk about pregame and in game atmosphere that is a different story and ours can't touch anybodys , but Vandy and mizzou
 
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sluggercatfan

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I feel dumber for having read that.... South Carolina's stadium is #1 because his grandfather helped build the upper deck and because he knows a whole bunch of trivia about the stadium, including that there is a chicken restaurant across the street.

The only criteria he used to rank the stadiums was which stadium he knew best.

I guess that's a clever way to increase the number of site clicks ... disguise an article about someone's granddad being a stadium architect as a ranking of all 14 SEC stadiums. Yuck!
Least impressed with SC from all the talk I'd heard about it...also may have had some thing to do with we kicked their ***[banana]:boxing::smiley::sunglasses:
 
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Glenn's Take

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As a part of my retired bucket list I'm in the process of attending every venue in the sec...so far I've seem SC ..MSU..ut..Mizzou..vandy..LSU..Ga. This season we will be taking in Ala & Fla. With all changes that have been made to CWS , so far I've not see one place that is any prettier than CWS...now if you want to talk about pregame and in game atmosphere that is a different story and ours can't touch anybodys , but Vandy and mizzou
Wait until you get to Alabama this year. It's a really fun place to see a game.
 

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Least impressed with SC from all the talk I'd heard about it...also may have had some thing to do with we kicked their ***[banana]:boxing::smiley::sunglasses:
That would have been last year, right? How was the crowd? I have always regarded SC as UK's closest peer in the SEC, i.e., great fan support despite a historically struggling football program.

FWIW, the SDS article is just some goofiness that always crops up on these blog sites impersonating ESPN "reporting".

But start saving now for the aTm game. Went there back in the early 90's, absolute best game day environment I have experienced anywhere.

Peace
 

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This is just stupid person trying to get clicks. He knows that don't turn the needle, we are the needle.

With the millions upon millions upon millions just invested in Commonwealth and all the upgrades there is no way we are not, at worse, middle of the pack. He has not been here since the upgrades or he would not be saying this.

He needs to come asap so he can see what a much better facility and atmosphere we have.

I cant wate for gameday baby!!!!!
 

sluggercatfan

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That would have been last year, right? How was the crowd? I have always regarded SC as UK's closest peer in the SEC, i.e., great fan support despite a historically struggling football program.

FWIW, the SDS article is just some goofiness that always crops up on these blog sites impersonating ESPN "reporting".

But start saving now for the aTm game. Went there back in the early 90's, absolute best game day environment I have experienced anywhere.

Peace
The pregame was probably the best I have seen so far... And the crowd could get rowdy but because we beat them they were quiet a lot of the time... Really got tired of hearing that damn rooster crow
 

sluggercatfan

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That would have been last year, right? How was the crowd? I have always regarded SC as UK's closest peer in the SEC, i.e., great fan support despite a historically struggling football program.

FWIW, the SDS article is just some goofiness that always crops up on these blog sites impersonating ESPN "reporting".

But start saving now for the aTm game. Went there back in the early 90's, absolute best game day environment I have experienced anywhere.

Peace
Yes definitely planning A&M game that is going to be a week or two week vacation
 

lex cath

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Without a doubt besides Vandy UThug is the worst easily. The inside has been painted 30 times the cracks are so large you lose change if you drop it. The Medicaid stadium of the SEC
 
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That would have been last year, right? How was the crowd? I have always regarded SC as UK's closest peer in the SEC, i.e., great fan support despite a historically struggling football program.

FWIW, the SDS article is just some goofiness that always crops up on these blog sites impersonating ESPN "reporting".

But start saving now for the aTm game. Went there back in the early 90's, absolute best game day environment I have experienced anywhere.

Peace
No question about it. Tiger Stadium IMO close, but special as merely incredible on a Saturday night.
 

Johnfarrel

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It was not too many years ago at Vandy, that you had to pee under the stands in a ditch in the dirt.
He knocks Kentucky for non-football sports, but also ranks Alabama and Auburn's stadiums way down the list, too. Hard to find two schools who rank football higher.
 

BigBluePhantom

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That read like something you would see in a college newspaper. I went the Vandy game last year and it was on the OVC level. The same Vandy stadium that the writer had ahead of Bama and Auburn. Not a serious article. Most likely a filler piece.
 

jauk11

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That read like something you would see in a college newspaper. I went the Vandy game last year and it was on the OVC level. The same Vandy stadium that the writer had ahead of Bama and Auburn. Not a serious article. Most likely a filler piece.

Well, you have to admit it is easier fighting the crowd after the game.
 

mhroe1984

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I've only been to Vandy and Neyland, but there's no way in hell that Vanderbilt Stadium is better than Commonwealth, especially now with the renovations completed.
 

STUCKNBIG10

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I like that his rankings are "outside the box", but they're terrible. Vandy's stadium is awful. Placing UF that low on the list is also absurd. Miss state that high is also ridiculous.
 

KyDore

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Other than capacity, there really doesn't seem to me to be any stadium that is really that much more comfortable for the fan than any other. Even the most attractive stadium is an ugly hunk of steel and about the best that non-chairback fans can hope for is that the guy next to him can fit between his own seat lines. I guess restroom and concession lines matter some but it really is more about the game day experience than bricks and mortar. Do we really care that much about wifi speed or what over-priced concessions are sold? We do care about access, parking and whether the product on the field is any good.

I suspect that a reason that CWS doesn't rank very high to most is that it is just a large structure in a big field and not within convenient walking distance to hotels, restaurants and bars. It certainly isn't alone in have that characteristic but I do think that most visiting fanbases appreciate all that Nashville has to offer conveniently adjacent to Vanderbilt Stadium. If it is just a bricks and mortar test, then I totally agree that CWS shouldn't be last. But, the measure for most is game day enjoyment and that goes well beyond the facility itself.

Candidly, why spend a bunch of money on something used for 7 games a year if what one has is now functional? SEC football is a big money game and its hard to spend enough to buy one's way to the top. The recent report that UK's season tickets sales are down 14% despite spending $110MM on renovations somewhat supports the idea that it is not all about the bricks and mortar. Doing rough math using a 30 year amortization, 5% and $350 season ticket price, it takes over 20,000 annual season ticket sales per year for the next 30 years just to pay off the renovation cost. That is like wiping out the revenue for one-third of the stadium capacity. That's a really large price to pay for whatever improved game day experience it provides.
 

STUCKNBIG10

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Other than capacity, there really doesn't seem to me to be any stadium that is really that much more comfortable for the fan than any other. Even the most attractive stadium is an ugly hunk of steel and about the best that non-chairback fans can hope for is that the guy next to him can fit between his own seat lines. I guess restroom and concession lines matter some but it really is more about the game day experience than bricks and mortar. Do we really care that much about wifi speed or what over-priced concessions are sold? We do care about access, parking and whether the product on the field is any good.

I suspect that a reason that CWS doesn't rank very high to most is that it is just a large structure in a big field and not within convenient walking distance to hotels, restaurants and bars. It certainly isn't alone in have that characteristic but I do think that most visiting fanbases appreciate all that Nashville has to offer conveniently adjacent to Vanderbilt Stadium. If it is just a bricks and mortar test, then I totally agree that CWS shouldn't be last. But, the measure for most is game day enjoyment and that goes well beyond the facility itself.

Candidly, why spend a bunch of money on something used for 7 games a year if what one has is now functional? SEC football is a big money game and its hard to spend enough to buy one's way to the top. The recent report that UK's season tickets sales are down 14% despite spending $110MM on renovations somewhat supports the idea that it is not all about the bricks and mortar. Doing rough math using a 30 year amortization, 5% and $350 season ticket price, it takes over 20,000 annual season ticket sales per year for the next 30 years just to pay off the renovation cost. That is like wiping out the revenue for one-third of the stadium capacity. That's a really large price to pay for whatever improved game day experience it provides.

Fair points. I think the grumbling about Vandy's ranking is that not only is the stadium bad, but the atmosphere (which figures prominently in the rankings) is easily the worst in the league with the visiting team often having half of the fans in attendance for games in Nashville. But yes, not many would dispute the idea that Nashville is easily the best city in the league.
 

UKCatNnc

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I tried to read the article; however, it was obvious that this person does not know much about the stadiums and environments. He should try a little research before he attempts to write about something. Go Cats!!
 
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Pharmboy007

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I tried to read the article; however, it was obvious that this person does not know much about the stadiums and environments. He should try a little research before he attempts to write about something. Go Cats!!


As you read his article, it is not about the stadiums, but more about the atmosphere before, during, and after the games. Heck, what do cowbells have to do with a stadium? He should have used a different title. And apparently he has not seen CWS since the renovations have taken place.

GO CATS
 
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reflaine

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Other than capacity, there really doesn't seem to me to be any stadium that is really that much more comfortable for the fan than any other. Even the most attractive stadium is an ugly hunk of steel and about the best that non-chairback fans can hope for is that the guy next to him can fit between his own seat lines. I guess restroom and concession lines matter some but it really is more about the game day experience than bricks and mortar. Do we really care that much about wifi speed or what over-priced concessions are sold? We do care about access, parking and whether the product on the field is any good.

I suspect that a reason that CWS doesn't rank very high to most is that it is just a large structure in a big field and not within convenient walking distance to hotels, restaurants and bars. It certainly isn't alone in have that characteristic but I do think that most visiting fanbases appreciate all that Nashville has to offer conveniently adjacent to Vanderbilt Stadium. If it is just a bricks and mortar test, then I totally agree that CWS shouldn't be last. But, the measure for most is game day enjoyment and that goes well beyond the facility itself.

Candidly, why spend a bunch of money on something used for 7 games a year if what one has is now functional? SEC football is a big money game and its hard to spend enough to buy one's way to the top. The recent report that UK's season tickets sales are down 14% despite spending $110MM on renovations somewhat supports the idea that it is not all about the bricks and mortar. Doing rough math using a 30 year amortization, 5% and $350 season ticket price, it takes over 20,000 annual season ticket sales per year for the next 30 years just to pay off the renovation cost. That is like wiping out the revenue for one-third of the stadium capacity. That's a really large price to pay for whatever improved game day experience it provides.

Most of the renovation was to add high revenue areas. Suites and club seating brings in more dollars than the original bench back seats. each suite brings in over 40k a year. Two levels of those, plus the 10k a year kfund fee for the chair back section. It sure does out perform financially the old stadium produced. Plus kids who will be playing want to play in the best of the best. Dorms, practice facility, and stadium are the places these kids spend most of there time. They don't want that time to be spent in a 40 year old, outdated dump.
 

KyDore

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Most of the renovation was to add high revenue areas. Suites and club seating brings in more dollars than the original bench back seats. each suite brings in over 40k a year. Two levels of those, plus the 10k a year kfund fee for the chair back section. It sure does out perform financially the old stadium produced.

This article supports your point and provides interesting detail.

http://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-football/article91531787.html