Dan Mullen Is All Smoke & Mirrors..............

ExtremeDog

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all the **** talking that he has done about us being the only program on the rise in this state is now null and void.

The **** talking he did back in February on signing day when we lost our top in state recruits shows just how arrogant he is. He may can spew the Venom about how recruiting rankings don't matter and we got the guys we want, but that is all a crock of ****. Georgia and Auburn have more talent than we do!!

How can you average 6.6 yards per play running the option today........and only run it 4 times? Why do you consistently run up the middle with these no talented *** clowns we have on the line.

Face it, as big a moron as Croom was as a coach, he could recruit. Mullen showed he could win those players. Mullen could win with talented players at Florida and Utah.Now that Croom's guys are graduating and Mullen's are coming through, we are about to see the pendulum swing.

The first chance Mullen has to go to a program where he can pick the top 25 guys in the state that he wants he's gone!! In my opinion, this will be the last year of Dan Mullen at Misssissippi State!!
 

ExtremeDog

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all the **** talking that he has done about us being the only program on the rise in this state is now null and void.

The **** talking he did back in February on signing day when we lost our top in state recruits shows just how arrogant he is. He may can spew the Venom about how recruiting rankings don't matter and we got the guys we want, but that is all a crock of ****. Georgia and Auburn have more talent than we do!!

How can you average 6.6 yards per play running the option today........and only run it 4 times? Why do you consistently run up the middle with these no talented *** clowns we have on the line.

Face it, as big a moron as Croom was as a coach, he could recruit. Mullen showed he could win those players. Mullen could win with talented players at Florida and Utah.Now that Croom's guys are graduating and Mullen's are coming through, we are about to see the pendulum swing.

The first chance Mullen has to go to a program where he can pick the top 25 guys in the state that he wants he's gone!! In my opinion, this will be the last year of Dan Mullen at Misssissippi State!!
 

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ExtremeDog said:
Face it, as big a moron as Croom was as a coach, he could recruit.
You completely invalidated anything that might have been true in that rant of yours. Crxxm recruited Furboy Henig, Ty Evans, Tray Rutland, Josh Riddell, and (drum roll please) Chris Relf as QBs. We won't both to go into any other positions. Outside of Titus Brown, Derek Sherod, Anthony Dixon, his recruiting sucked donkey balls. Quit letting gameday emotion get in the way of your two-and-a-half remaining brain cells.
 

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I'm pretty close here.. I would give Mullen more benefit of the doubt if special teams (his area) wasn't the worst part of the team.. they are horrid. The defense was good today in spite of special teams.

Play calling has to be taken over by somebody else. it is middle school level.

Liberty Bowl is our BEST CASE SCENARIO

the place I disagree is that Mullen hasn't shown anything that would make another team hire him. Right now we look as dumb as Ole Miss and that huge contract they gave Nutt
 

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To be this bad offensively. Left tackle isn't the problem, the o line isn't the problem, relf isn't the problem and the receivers aren't the problem. We have enough talent but our offense is lost. What is our identity? Are we a power rushing team? Are we an option team? Do we pass first to set up the running game? Or are we going to throw it 20 plus times even if the running game is working?
 

shsdawg

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era MSU attitude. Start bashing the coach if things aren't always trending up. That 's what we have always done, it sure must work.
 

shsdawg

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and one other is playing a different postion. That's a whole new line basically.
 

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He hates how the recruiting game is played here. His recruiting style could work up there. He's got too much pride to change his approach and thus will never draw anything better than a top 25 class aGAIN.
 

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I am not a recruiting guy so I will leave that to the recruiting gurus. My problem is that our team does not seem up and ready to play at all this season. I don't count Memphis because that was like an exhibition game. We have come out flat and not ready to play.

The offense is awful, yes I get the O-line is banged up, but even the play calling seems Croom-like. Something that Mullen takes full responsibility for is special teams and they are probably the most shitastic of any aspect of the game.

I am not ready to lynch Mullen or take out ads in the paper, that would be idiotic. But I am frustrated with Dan, mainly because the team seems to play with little to no emotion and the play calling on the offensive side of the ball. That is on him.
 

shsdawg

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if you can't block. It drains everything, including emotion. A good line make a genius out of the play caller, a bad one makes him an idiot.
 

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with a line that we all know is awful. We ran the option to the outside 4 times today and it was pretty successful. I don't understand why we don't continue to run it until they stop it.

I still firmly believe that Relf is playing hurt since the LSU game. He looks a step slower, seems to have zero confidence, and is even running the ball timid most of the time. Something in not right with him. (other than his lack of accuracy)
 

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You watch the game and then you can talk all you want. You miss the game because of a "photo gig" and then come on here to tell people that they are wrong about something you didn't even watch? Unreal.
 

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missed his chance to move up last yr. right now msu looks like they will only beat one sec westteam this yr.......us. i'm not trying to dig msu at all cause we're worse. we may need tocall it the "suck-egg bowl" this yr.
 

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behind a line like ours would you be confident? Offense starts front, no matter what you run. I wouldn't be a bit suprised if Relf is hurt, he has taken a beating.
 

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Unless he turns it around this year, no teams will try to hire him away. While I am sure most level headed people on here realize he is a good coach, he has obviously struggled in recruiting and this will be the downfall if it doesn't pick up.

We couldn't sign a good class last year after a good season, just imagine how much tougher it will be if we continue to flop the rest of this season.
 

maroonmania

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its these Top 50 classes we are getting that will make it difficult to consistently win in the SEC.
 

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the statement was that he would bolt if he got the chance to another team. Hiring away a coach making as much as Mullen would require at least the same amount of cash. Do you honestly think any team would do that right now after he has struggled recruiting and, at least so far this year, has not been able to win with his recruits?
 

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Shsdawg hit the nail right on the head. Relf's regression starts there! Think about it for a minute, where do 90% of Relf's runs come from? Betwern the tackles! I really thought Carmon would effect that spot better than he did today because he doesn't have good footwork but its WAY too much to ask. I'm finally concerned about this team's offense. Perhaps its time for Tyler to step in start to finish these next few games. Maybe bring Relf in for some wildcat stuff. Smh right now.
 

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Offense did suck and it was all of them. Not just the OL. I was glad to see the defense hang in there and get better in the 2nd half. But that's about the only positive I can come up with.
 

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they aren't good. OM can beat them too. However, it's the coach's job to keep the team motivated and focused to win that game.
 

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that" Mullen could win at State IF he has the players."...sounds simple but it's true. So far he hasn't been able to get the players. Dan is a very good coach. If he and staff can't recruit in the SEC, he may very well leave for another school where recruiting is not as cut throat as it is in the SEC. And yes, there are schools that will see that he is a good coach, and will take a chance on him because recruiting at their particular school won't be as tough.
 

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you are doing exactly what they did, start bashing him 5 games removed from one of our better years in a long time. People notice that sort of thing. He proved last year he is a good coach, if he has the players. Other places will assume they can provide them. We are about three offensive linemen from being not very far away at all from where we were last year. Lets stay on the band wagon a bit longer if we can, we certainly won't get any new decent players if our own people aren't on board.
 
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As hard as it is to do, if you really look at your team objectively it is talent level that keeps you guys and my Rebels from winning consistently. We are both in the same boat, we can't recruit enough good players year in and year out to compete consistently. Your defense played extremely well today, especially for the field position Ga was given. Because of your weakness and injury in the OL, you are not able to be the same power running team you were last year. You can't control the game and wait on other teams to make mistakes. More pressure is being put on Relf and he is just not a passer. You can still win some games and have a good year, but depth and talent level have bitten you. I'm sure i'll get told where to stick my opinion, but that is it.
 

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scream their heads off, up their giving, add on to the stadium, whatever, but I can't visit recruits and close the deal with them.
 

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Losing 2 can make a big difference...mullen bumping his head and getting amnesia would be the only thing that coul justify some of the stupidity Ive seen today...starting to smell like bear **** around here
 

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..H. Nutt & Dan Mullen are making fools of themselves this season.


I agree neither has a stable of top talent to work with, but Nutt makes some of the biggest dumbass in-game decisions I have ever seen.


Same with Mullen.


I am not going to rehash how Mullen & Nutt have made fools of themselves this season (there are hundreds of posts both here & on NAFOOM that cover that in an extensive manner).


Neither Mullen nor Nutt has their teams playing with intensity. Both trot out disorganized squads that look like they haven't practiced. Both have their teams execute moronic schemes that play into the other team's strengths. And both are in the process of robbing UM & MSU respectively by drawing salaries that are astronomically above what they are worth.
 

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ExtremeDog said:
all the **** talking that he has done about us being the only program on the rise in this state is now null and void.

The **** talking he did back in February on signing day when we lost our top in state recruits shows just how arrogant he is. He may can spew the Venom about how recruiting rankings don't matter and we got the guys we want, but that is all a crock of ****. Georgia and Auburn have more talent than we do!!

How can you average 6.6 yards per play running the option today........and only run it 4 times? Why do you consistently run up the middle with these no talented *** clowns we have on the line.

Face it, as big a moron as Croom was as a coach, he could recruit. Mullen showed he could win those players. Mullen could win with talented players at Florida and Utah.Now that Croom's guys are graduating and Mullen's are coming through, we are about to see the pendulum swing.

The first chance Mullen has to go to a program where he can pick the top 25 guys in the state that he wants he's gone!! In my opinion, this will be the last year of Dan Mullen at Misssissippi State!!
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because they certainly do. If you want to believe that you have the same talent level as the upper half of the SEC then it is your right to live in denial. Is Mullen perfect? do you miss Diaz and your OC? I'm sure they have made mistakes. But attrition and injuries are part of the game and when OM and State lose starters we suffer for it. If the same happens to Bama or LSU they just keep on trucking. LSU lost 2 first round draft picks on defense and their defense improved this year. If you want to compete with the big boys you have to have big boy depth and talent. Now, should the coaches be held accountable for not recruiting? Damn right they should, especially when they make just south of 3 mill. Ole Miss has way more problems now than just coaching or just talent, it appears you guys could be successful with an upgrade in talent.
 

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..I openly admitted MSU does not have high caliber talent.

Here's the bottom line: Both Nutt & Mullen are putting a product on the field that looks timid, unprepared, confused & displays an attitude that the last place in the worldthe players want to be is on a football field.

This has nothing to do with talent level. If MSU showed heart in defeat, I could live with it.

But they don't. In fact, they show no heart at all.

I will admit I have always found Houston Nutt to be abuffoonishly repulsive individual, therefore I can't offer you a trueobjective assessment of him.
 

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I'm thinking we need to start a fund to, uhhhh, steer some cruits to a certain school next year...
 

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rabiddawg said:
I'm thinking we need to start a fund to, uhhhh, steer some cruits to a certain school next year...

The only bad thing about that is when, well, IF we actually start "persuading" some of these blue-chippers to come here, heads will start turning because we jess po' ol' Missippi State. We ain't supposed to be pulling in these top 25 recruiting classes.......and the NCAA will swiftly put a stop to that ****.
 

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..why is this board constantly up in arms about the NCAA refusing to do anything about the cheating @ Ole Miss, Auburn, etc. yet, without missing a beat, begs Mullen to cheat?


I realize sports fans are not famous fo their rational reasoning, but this one takes the cake.
 

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rabiddawg said:
I'm thinking we need to start a fund to, uhhhh, steer some cruits to a certain school next year...

you are all for hiring Croom back in a few years I see. That's insane. Some, like Auburn and UM, may be able to get away with it, we can't. We have ample evidence of that.
 

shsdawg

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and all of them since, EXCEPT today (not by choice really) .I was at the game last week. It was there to see if you were willing to see itin the Memphis game,as I posted at the time. I recorded today. I'll probaly watch it, but I already know what I'll see.