Dark Side Ranking, Volume 2, 2016

JCHILLTOPPERS

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Ok...time for some more fun....blame MCHSalum for the delay...Next week, expect a change or two, but there are some great games two weeks away...

Tonight's theme....back to tiers...this happens from time-to-time. This time, there are three, almost split evenly.

Tier III

10.91: P-Ridge:
Interesting one - especially considering some teams not included this week. P-Ridge is 3-0 with decent wins over CG and Huntly. The quality on the field looks good, despite the ug-mug unies...P-Ridge's schedule lines up nicely over the next few weeks. The DVC is really kicking into high gear now so it will be interesting to see whether and if P-Ridgere remains, even if unbeaten, to a one or two loss dvc team? They play, we decide.

10.45: LW-Beast:

The beast sticks in our top ten. They lose by 5 to HF, but when they were up 20-7, I proclaimed they were unbeatable. See, even i can be wrong. Huge trap game this week, the brook. If there is one thing we know about the brook, they are the strangest team in our state and like win by two TDs. Did anyone notice the size of LW-East's bench? I'll let the voters express their thoughts on why we kept them in, but note six of us ranked them while five did not.

9.09: B-Town:
Ramblinman.

7.18: P-Tine:
P-Tine is the first team in this week that received a vote from all 11 voters. P-Tine has a potential trap game this week against New Trier. NT seems to have a solid offense, so if there is any let down or stumble, trouble could brew quickly. P-Tine appears to have the offense to go places, but we might not know until 14 October when they play B-Town as to whether it's good, very good, or great...wait, captain, what about the defense?

Tier II

6.18: Neek-Val:

Leaders of the dreaded DVC pull off a quality *** win against rival Dub-Val - who is gone this week, but not forgotten. Watched every snap of Neek this week and was impressed with what I saw. Later, the question may become...how many DVC teams can we fit into a top ten? I'm really looking forward to 30 September when Neek plays Nape-Nord. What if Nape-Nord wins that game?

6.0: G-Dub:
G-Dub gets a huge, unexpected jump this week. At the end of the day, this team plays very very good defense. Scary is the penalties and the offense...oh, but the offense. They opened things up this week and the QB hit some very nice roll out passes. Does this open up the running game now? Is there a big test lurking in two weeks? Can Lyons really challenge?

4.91: Bro-Rice:
Br0-Rice comes in scoring 137-57 PF-PA against a quality schedule. But let's be honest. This week Bro-Rice host Bronco at home, and this game has zero to do with Bro-Rice and everything to do with Bronco. Let me point this out, Bronco is 38-89 PF-PA. I have a feeling that might even get extended a bit this weekend. Worse yet, if Bronco loses this game, next week they face a marmion team that has only given up six points this season and later MC...weird year for a few traditional catholic powers aye?

Tier 1

2.82: H-Eff:
Very little to say here. H-eff was down 20-7 and fought back looking like the better team by half against it's first real opponent of the year in LW-Beast. You know H-Eff is looking for that LA re-match...southside vs northside...i think we get it...just saying.

2.27: East-Side:
I'm typically very bearish on East-Side. Not this year. This year I am a raging bull. like their SoS. I love their talent. And i really like that they have a superstar on the team that can bail them out when needed. Close followers of the DSR know i love a team with a superstar. In HS sports, I think it makes a world of difference...Is the year that no one spoke of flyer the year everyone should have been? I dont they they get touched before the playoffs.

1.45: Ram-Blur:
For the second straight week, but with less influence, Ram-Blur holds the top spot. Yes Ramblr, the SoS took a hit this week with the Bronco and MS loss...just because it had to. However, Ram-Blur's SoS is still one of the tops in state, and will stay that way with some big games on the come...you know, like a show down in two weeks with upstart Fenwick...remember what i said about star players...Ram-Blur has one of them, too...and I'm not buying the defense is soft this season either. It might not be what it was last year...but how could it be?

Here is your link...kind of...to see the votes. Thanks for your patience.

Ramblr, take your shot.

 

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Ok...time for some more fun....blame MCHSalum for the delay...Next week, expect a change or two, but there are some great games two weeks away...

Tonight's theme....back to tiers...this happens from time-to-time. This time, there are three, almost split evenly.

Tier III

10.91: P-Ridge:
Interesting one - especially considering some teams not included this week. P-Ridge is 3-0 with decent wins over CG and Huntly. The quality on the field looks good, despite the ug-mug unies...P-Ridge's schedule lines up nicely over the next few weeks. The DVC is really kicking into high gear now so it will be interesting to see whether and if P-Ridgere remains, even if unbeaten, to a one or two loss dvc team? They play, we decide.

10.45: LW-Beast:

The beast sticks in our top ten. They lose by 5 to HF, but when they were up 20-7, I proclaimed they were unbeatable. See, even i can be wrong. Huge trap game this week, the brook. If there is one thing we know about the brook, they are the strangest team in our state and like win by two TDs. Did anyone notice the size of LW-East's bench? I'll let the voters express their thoughts on why we kept them in, but note six of us ranked them while five did not.

9.09: B-Town:
Ramblinman.

7.18: P-Tine:
P-Tine is the first team in this week that received a vote from all 11 voters. P-Tine has a potential trap game this week against New Trier. NT seems to have a solid offense, so if there is any let down or stumble, trouble could brew quickly. P-Tine appears to have the offense to go places, but we might not know until 14 October when they play B-Town as to whether it's good, very good, or great...wait, captain, what about the defense?

Tier II

6.18: Neek-Val:

Leaders of the dreaded DVC pull off a quality *** win against rival Dub-Val - who is gone this week, but not forgotten. Watched every snap of Neek this week and was impressed with what I saw. Later, the question may become...how many DVC teams can we fit into a top ten? I'm really looking forward to 30 September when Neek plays Nape-Nord. What if Nape-Nord wins that game?

6.0: G-Dub:
G-Dub gets a huge, unexpected jump this week. At the end of the day, this team plays very very good defense. Scary is the penalties and the offense...oh, but the offense. They opened things up this week and the QB hit some very nice roll out passes. Does this open up the running game now? Is there a big test lurking in two weeks? Can Lyons really challenge?

4.91: Bro-Rice:
Br0-Rice comes in scoring 137-57 PF-PA against a quality schedule. But let's be honest. This week Bro-Rice host Bronco at home, and this game has zero to do with Bro-Rice and everything to do with Bronco. Let me point this out, Bronco is 38-89 PF-PA. I have a feeling that might even get extended a bit this weekend. Worse yet, if Bronco loses this game, next week they face a marmion team that has only given up six points this season and later MC...weird year for a few traditional catholic powers aye?

Tier 1

2.82: H-Eff:
Very little to say here. H-eff was down 20-7 and fought back looking like the better team by half against it's first real opponent of the year in LW-Beast. You know H-Eff is looking for that LA re-match...southside vs northside...i think we get it...just saying.

2.27: East-Side:
I'm typically very bearish on East-Side. Not this year. This year I am a raging bull. like their SoS. I love their talent. And i really like that they have a superstar on the team that can bail them out when needed. Close followers of the DSR know i love a team with a superstar. In HS sports, I think it makes a world of difference...Is the year that no one spoke of flyer the year everyone should have been? I dont they they get touched before the playoffs.

1.45: Ram-Blur:
For the second straight week, but with less influence, Ram-Blur holds the top spot. Yes Ramblr, the SoS took a hit this week with the Bronco and MS loss...just because it had to. However, Ram-Blur's SoS is still one of the tops in state, and will stay that way with some big games on the come...you know, like a show down in two weeks with upstart Fenwick...remember what i said about star players...Ram-Blur has one of them, too...and I'm not buying the defense is soft this season either. It might not be what it was last year...but how could it be?

Here is your link...kind of...to see the votes. Thanks for your patience.

Ramblr, take your shot.



Movement.

Movement can be an inspiring thing. Take the civil rights movement in our nation, for example. That movement is credited with inspiring most other social justice movements of the past 40-50 years.

Movement can be a beautiful thing. The second movement of Beethoven’s 7th Symphony is widely regarded by many to be one of the most beautiful movements in all classical music.

Movement can also be a satisfying thing. You know your body is working satisfactorily after a bowel movement containing well-formed stool. However, bowel movements can sometimes be messy things that are difficult to complete. Not so satisfying.

Speaking of messy movements, let’s examine the movements by some of the DSR voters from one week to the next. Let’s start with epic.

Last week, hot on the heels of a close loss to the Ramblers, epic ranked 1-1 MS at #2. This week, he moved a 1-2 MS to #9 after a lopsided loss to Barrington…a 3-0 team that he saw fit to move up to #8 this week, just ONE RANKING above MS. Epic was the only DSR voter who gave MS a vote this week. This is a classic example of not fully finishing a movement by flushing a 1-2 team down the DSR rankings drain. Instead, he just left it there floating at #9.

Messy movements always remind me of Bones. Let’s look at some of the movements that Bones dumped on the DSR this week. These movements seem to be not very well formed, so play close attention.

What did Bones do for Brown this week? For one thing, he moved them up from no ranking last week to #8 after a high scoring close home loss to the highly ranked Ramblers of LA. In his defense, Bones wasn’t the only voter who moved MC up. But, the team that MC lost to Bones saw fit to move down from #1 to #3! No, I’m not crappin’ you, Bones is! In Bones’ rankings, losing to LA at Gately moved MC up, but beating MC at Gately moved LA down.

Messy and not well formed, to be sure.

Last week, Bones had LWE at #9. This week, Bones moved the Griffins up to #5 after a high scoring close home loss to the highly ranked Vikings of HF. Sound like a familiar pattern developing? Not this time. If Bones had employed the logic he employed earlier with LA and MC, he would have moved HF DOWN because it was too close of a win or because it wasn’t a blowout win, or because of whatever. Instead, Bones spurted HF all the way to the top of his rankings, replacing Loyola.

More movement moments…

Last week, Bones had WV at #6. After WV lost a close game at home to NV this past weekend, Bones moved WV out of his rankings. Wait a second! The previous two examples had teams with close home losses move up. This time, Bones moved WV out of his rankings. (Some of you out there might actually agree with moving a losing team DOWN. What a concept, eh?) This is what is known as an inconsistent movement. Anyway, what about NV? Bones had NV unranked last week. Every other DSR voter this past week moved NV into their rankings…except Bones. Who knows if Bones strained with that movement or not. The one thing we do know is that he obviously chose to get off the pot when it came to moving NV up.

There are a bunch more messy DSR movements I could comment on, but the stench has finally gotten to me and I need some fresh air.
 

Voodoo Tatum 21

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Omg. This is Awesome!! Whoever has that picture of the guy leering and eating popcorn.... That is me!!!

Fantastic!! Almost worth my lump of coal with WV out of the DSR (they have plenty of time to play their way back in if they focus and are worthy!!).

Again great stuff
 

Voodoo Tatum 21

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Movement.

Movement can be an inspiring thing. Take the civil rights movement in our nation, for example. That movement is credited with inspiring most other social justice movements of the past 40-50 years.

Movement can be a beautiful thing. The second movement of Beethoven’s 7th Symphony is widely regarded by many to be one of the most beautiful movements in all classical music.

Movement can also be a satisfying thing. You know your body is working satisfactorily after a bowel movement containing well-formed stool. However, bowel movements can sometimes be messy things that are difficult to complete. Not so satisfying.

Speaking of messy movements, let’s examine the movements by some of the DSR voters from one week to the next. Let’s start with epic.

Last week, hot on the heels of a close loss to the Ramblers, epic ranked 1-1 MS at #2. This week, he moved a 1-2 MS to #9 after a lopsided loss to Barrington…a 3-0 team that he saw fit to move up to #8 this week, just ONE RANKING above MS. Epic was the only DSR voter who gave MS a vote this week. This is a classic example of not fully finishing a movement by flushing a 1-2 team down the DSR rankings drain. Instead, he just left it there floating at #9.

Messy movements always remind me of Bones. Let’s look at some of the movements that Bones dumped on the DSR this week. These movements seem to be not very well formed, so play close attention.

What did Bones do for Brown this week? For one thing, he moved them up from no ranking last week to #8 after a high scoring close home loss to the highly ranked Ramblers of LA. In his defense, Bones wasn’t the only voter who moved MC up. But, the team that MC lost to Bones saw fit to move down from #1 to #3! No, I’m not crappin’ you, Bones is! In Bones’ rankings, losing to LA at Gately moved MC up, but beating MC at Gately moved LA down.

Messy and not well formed, to be sure.

Last week, Bones had LWE at #9. This week, Bones moved the Griffins up to #5 after a high scoring close home loss to the highly ranked Vikings of HF. Sound like a familiar pattern developing? Not this time. If Bones had employed the logic he employed earlier with LA and MC, he would have moved HF DOWN because it was too close of a win or because it wasn’t a blowout win, or because of whatever. Instead, Bones spurted HF all the way to the top of his rankings, replacing Loyola.

More movement moments…

Last week, Bones had WV at #6. After WV lost a close game at home to NV this past weekend, Bones moved WV out of his rankings. Wait a second! The previous two examples had teams with close home losses move up. This time, Bones moved WV out of his rankings. (Some of you out there might actually agree with moving a losing team DOWN. What a concept, eh?) This is what is known as an inconsistent movement. Anyway, what about NV? Bones had NV unranked last week. Every other DSR voter this past week moved NV into their rankings…except Bones. Who knows if Bones strained with that movement or not. The one thing we do know is that he obviously chose to get off the pot when it came to moving NV up.

There are a bunch more messy DSR movements I could comment on, but the stench has finally gotten to me and I need some fresh air.

This is the best and funniest post ever!! My wife was asking me what I am laughing at as I'm reading this on my phone!!!
 

Cross Bones

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I'll give some insight...

I included MC this week because I needed to see them against a formidable opponent, which Loyola clearly is. Loyola moved down because of the Maine South debacle, and what actually held more weight to me was that MS passed all over them followed by MC putting in tremendous work on the ground. I have tremendous questions about the defense where I usually have none.

NV? I am not as bullish on the DVC as everyone else is. I think theyre solid through and through, but I dont know about top 10. WV was getting a semifinal birth and returning starters bump which evaporated with the NV loss.

LWE was in a similar boat as MC, only they were slightly in while MC was slightly out.
 

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Voodoo -- know that Ramblr is part of the DSR Team. He is our Justice Brandeis. He officially checks us.

I know. It's on the excel sheet and there is no way he could have done the analysis and completed that post from the time the DSR Hit to when the post dropped. It was awesome!! Great great reading!! See that's why I couldn't wait for it to come out!!
 
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pjjp

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It's a shame the stench got too bad for Ramblin. He could have mentioned my H-F movement from unranked last week to #3 this week. I've only seen highlights of ESL, but I suspect H-F might be the most athletic team in the state (at least on offense). I suspect ESL might get the nod on defense.

Does Ramblin remaining mum on the Ramblers' ranking mean he feels as if LA is now properly ranked? Or possibly he couldn't work any LA discussion into his movement theme.
 

mchsalumni

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I was standing very still in a corner whilst @ramblinman was pecking away at his typewriter. There's still time for him after the first flush, so I'll be over here keeping quiet if anyone is looking for me.
 

RockSoup

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Voodoo Tatum is my new favorite poster. Sorry to edgys Mt. Rushmore of DoS, JChill, and XBones. I know that's only 3 but then I have to start tiering and I don't want to go too deep and have Ramblin dissecting my poster picks.
VT21 brings a buzz to the board
 

Goomlah

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OK here's my explanation which ramblin will rip to shreds: :):):)

Loyola in my eyes is the best team in the state bar none and don't see much of a way to drop them
Rice is higher than ESL due to the Providence game which is looking worse for ESL.
I know GW's offense is mediocre at best, but their wins vs Brook and HC are still solid.
HF has one really good road win. OK, beat Brook and they'll probably move up.
Ok, all of you who are sleeping on Prairie Ridge don't know what you're looking at. They are that good people. They gave Montini their best game in the playoffs last year and almost everyone is back.

This is where it gets weird for me:
I'm not sold on any of the other teams yet. The DVC is well, something out of the purge right now. Neuqua is the only one without a loss. OK. That will change I'm sure
Palatine and Barrington? They have 1 good win each and if they win out a week 8 matchup of 7-0 teams sound juicy
No one else voted for Fenwick? Nice to know my lone wolf strategy seems to apply. You beat Phillips AND Montini? Now I know Montini is not exactly 100% but to win by 30 points? Come on guys.

Mt. Carmel lost its only game of importance so far. End of Discussion. I really don't see anyone else in the discussion right now. Assuming wins this week, the winner of Pats-ND week 5 is probably in everyone's DSR (I can't believe I just said that-last time either team was in the DSR's?) but not quite yet especially with ND's loss to Benet. WV and GN? Well in my eye either WV is 10 or neither of them are in right now. Batavia? Meh. Maine South? Really? Stevie lost to Palatine.

Ok, that's my list and I'm sticking to it.
 

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You were the one I was thinking about when I had to stop at 3 MCHslum. If I add you then I have to add that cat MS4vr, and Epic and Gooms. The pressure got to me. I had to stop at 3. Accept my apologies
 
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RockSoup

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Sorry. Not hijacking the thread. Edgys Mt. Rushmore is always a good offseason thread. Now where's my popcorn. Back to the great DSR debate!
 

MWittman

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Voodoo -- know that Ramblr is part of the DSR Team. He is our Justice Brandeis. He officially checks us.

JCHILL:

No, ramblinman more closely resembles Justice Alito.

Ramblinman, like Alito, is a skeptic; he is rational, unflappable, self-assured and, like me, a natural contrarian whose only concern is the facts.

I suspect ramblin waits patiently for each new edition of the DSR, reads your bile with great care, rolls his eyes and, dismissing the DSR as a paradox, proceeds to dismantle each voters' analysis with immense eagerness and intellectual dexterity.

Beethoven impresses me and ramblinman's reference to the great German composer represents a sophistication which is similarly manifest in his investigations of the weekly DSR.

While I prefer the Baroque period in both music and art, the works of Rembrandt and Georg Philipp Telemann, Johann Sebastian Bach and Antonio Vivaldi are a passion of mine, I do not begrudge the man for the reason he chose a classical composer and not some fourth-rate modern musician spewing rot to underscore his example of "movement" in the DSR.

Giants of the Baroque period, I would suggest readers take a moment to listen the the beauty of Vivaldi and Bach. This particular piece by Bach from his Brandenburg concerto no. three is a favorite of mine, as is Vivaldi's concerto mandolini.

I only recommend you listen for a moment as this is not an attempt to lure anyone to becoming devotees to classical music. Lord knows some on this site could use a bit of culture, but I don't think I clutch the cunning to influence a mass shift to appreciate music or art as edifying as these.

As far as the Brandeis comparison, I hope ramblin will forgive JC for his reckless choice: Brandeis was an incorrigible progressive and his retirement in 1939 paved the way for the elevation and 36-year tenure of the appalling William O. Douglas.

I cringe writing either Justices' name.
 

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I'll give some insight...

NV? I am not as bullish on the DVC as everyone else is. I think theyre solid through and through, but I dont know about top 10. WV was getting a semifinal birth and returning starters bump which evaporated with the NV loss.

Yeah you may have a point there. I think the strength of the DVC is the top to bottom 1 thru 9. the question is - do the top 1 or 2 teams from the DVC compare well with the top 1/2 in other conferences. LA/BR. HF/LWE etc etc? Don't know. Wish we had some crossovers instead of running to Ohio/Indiana etc for the one non con game. I think we will only find out come playoff time.

The issue I have is that in many conferences - there are 2 or 3 "gimme games" In my opinion there are none of those in the DVC.

So with that- In a few cases for the top 15 teams - it's akin to the college non power 5 discussion - the Boise State's of the world (good talented dominating etc) and how would they fare in a power 5 conference week in and week out grind? Yes they can beat anyone in a given week - but can they slug it out for 9 weeks - deal with the injuries that pile up in tough games and stI'll find a way to win in the following weeks.

Every team still has question marks somewhere and I don't think there is one truly dominant team in 2016 in 8A and 7A like there was last year in LA and GBW. (Although Palatine gave LA all they could handle and GBW got the same test/different team and passed as well)

I am of the opinion that if the winner of the CCL blue is undefeated - they have to be #1 in my book until someone beats them And proves it.

HF - super talented - speed/size you name it. But they seem to have one hiccup every year... Losing to The Brook in week 9 last year? Can they stay focused and play as a team? Tons of great players - but in some of the dogfight games against other great teams - you need to be able to "play as a team". They did it in their comeback against LWE. I think they #2 in my book

#3 for me is GBW - until someone beats them - I think I have to keep them as my #3.

I have to admit I have not seen ESL play but hear good things (scary things if you are a 7A team). I also don't know a lot about the northern teams - Palatine and Barrington.

In terms of the DVC - if a team can emerge undefeated from DVC - guys that is a special gut checked team. Personally I don't believe it will happen - but if it did they would have to move into my top 4 at minimum (if they remained somewhat healthy coming out the other side)

Should be super interesting over the next 3-4 weeks!!! Can't wait!!
 

ramblinman_rivals165935

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It's a shame the stench got too bad for Ramblin. He could have mentioned my H-F movement from unranked last week to #3 this week. I've only seen highlights of ESL, but I suspect H-F might be the most athletic team in the state (at least on offense). I suspect ESL might get the nod on defense.

Does Ramblin remaining mum on the Ramblers' ranking mean he feels as if LA is now properly ranked? Or possibly he couldn't work any LA discussion into his movement theme.

Regarding your irregular movement of HF, I admit that I was tempted to take a swipe at it. However, I felt your downward movement of LWE was solid and that Bones' upward movement of LWE was more deserving of being flushed. Additionally, and perhaps more to the point, I think the DSR generally got HF right this week.

As for my thoughts on Loyola, I am feeling better about their DSR ranking this week than last. Why? Beating MC at Gately after a short week is impressive. Nobody expected LA to blow out the Caravan, and they did pretty much what most folks thought they were going to do. MC is a signature win any way you want to slice it, regardless of who MC played in a their first two games. MC is one of those programs deserving of much respect until they prove otherwise. Discounting the three losses LA has inflicted on their opponents, their opponents' combined record is 6-1. In their three wins, MUHS has outscored their opponents 95-0.

Hard to take seriously those voters who are heavily weighting the Montini loss to Fenwick into their LA ranking.
 
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DeanOfSelection

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It's a shame the stench got too bad for Ramblin. He could have mentioned my H-F movement from unranked last week to #3 this week. I've only seen highlights of ESL, but I suspect H-F might be the most athletic team in the state (at least on offense). I suspect ESL might get the nod on defense.

Does Ramblin remaining mum on the Ramblers' ranking mean he feels as if LA is now properly ranked? Or possibly he couldn't work any LA discussion into his movement theme.

I vaulted HF from 10 to 2. For MC, I need to see the Rita Rice games back to back. Definitely am encouraged by some things I saw. Last year's team it woulda been 49-7 in the 4th so some positives, need to clean up the turnovers and penalties.
 

ramblinman_rivals165935

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OK here's my explanation which ramblin will rip to shreds:

Truthfully, gooms, I thought your movements were solid and well formed.

The Fenwick ranking I get, and I was a little surprised that you were the only DSR voter to show some love to the Friars after they beat two defending state champs. The only problem I have with Fenwick and your rankings, though, is that you didn't rank LWE. In a head to head match-up between the Friars and the Griffins, I'll take the Griffins.
 

mchsalumni

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Truthfully, gooms, I thought your movements were solid and well formed.

The Fenwick ranking I get, and I was a little surprised that you were the only DSR voter to show some love to the Friars after they beat two defending state champs. The only problem I have with Fenwick and your rankings, though, is that you didn't rank LWE. In a head to head match-up between the Friars and the Griffins, I'll take the Griffins.

I had Fenwick 12 and LWE 11. Loving Batavia right now, which kept LWE out.
 
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JCHILL:

No, ramblinman more closely resembles Justice Alito.

Ramblinman, like Alito, is a skeptic; he is rational, unflappable, self-assured and, like me, a natural contrarian whose only concern is the facts.

I suspect ramblin waits patiently for each new edition of the DSR, reads your bile with great care, rolls his eyes and, dismissing the DSR as a paradox, proceeds to dismantle each voters' analysis with immense eagerness and intellectual dexterity.

Beethoven impresses me and ramblinman's reference to the great German composer represents a sophistication which is similarly manifest in his investigations of the weekly DSR.

While I prefer the Baroque period in both music and art, the works of Rembrandt and Georg Philipp Telemann, Johann Sebastian Bach and Antonio Vivaldi are a passion of mine, I do not begrudge the man for the reason he chose a classical composer and not some fourth-rate modern musician spewing rot to underscore his example of "movement" in the DSR.

Giants of the Baroque period, I would suggest readers take a moment to listen the the beauty of Vivaldi and Bach. This particular piece by Bach from his Brandenburg concerto no. three is a favorite of mine, as is Vivaldi's concerto mandolini.

I only recommend you listen for a moment as this is not an attempt to lure anyone to becoming devotees to classical music. Lord knows some on this site could use a bit of culture, but I don't think I clutch the cunning to influence a mass shift to appreciate music or art as edifying as these.

As far as the Brandeis comparison, I hope ramblin will forgive JC for his reckless choice: Brandeis was an incorrigible progressive and his retirement in 1939 paved the way for the elevation and 36-year tenure of the appalling William O. Douglas.

I cringe writing either Justices' name.

F all that

1-2-3-4!
 

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I think MC and Glenbard North are too low. We all know that MC will be competing for a title again this year. Don't punish the DVC teams for being in a strong conference, nobody will go undefeated with 8 tough league games. In the end GN will emerge as the conference champion with one loss. Very little separates GN, WV, and NV. Lake Park just had an impressive non-conference win and they are probably the fifth best team.
 
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In the end GN will emerge as the conference champion with one loss. Very little separates GN, WV, and NV. Lake Park just had an impressive non-conference win and they are probably the fifth best team.

I beg to Differ!! (if ever so slightly) :):eek:

You forgot your Huskies!! 3 and 0 with an impressive win over Wheaton North!!! if they take care of Lake Park this Friday - they have to be in the discussion with the other 3 teams you mentioned

Your right though on GBN - I think they take care of business and run the table from here on out. I have seen both GBN and NV play live and in person (granted a 1 game sample of each) and if I had to put money on it - I would go with GBN over NV every time.
 

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I beg to Differ!! (if ever so slightly) :):eek:

You forgot your Huskies!! 3 and 0 with an impressive win over Wheaton North!!! if they take care of Lake Park this Friday - they have to be in the discussion with the other 3 teams you mentioned

Your right though on GBN - I think they take care of business and run the table from here on out. I have seen both GBN and NV play live and in person (granted a 1 game sample of each) and if I had to put money on it - I would go with GBN over NV every time.
The toughest part of our schedule is still ahead. WV has already played GN and NV. Metea got pounded by Neuqua... we survived overtime against Metea. The top three have proved to be very even.
 

Voodoo Tatum 21

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The toughest part of our schedule is still ahead. WV has already played GN and NV. Metea got pounded by Neuqua... we survived overtime against Metea. The top three have proved to be very even.

Well I tried to imbed an image of the sandbagging machine but it didn't work (Can anyone teach me how to upload images?)

You must be a Professor Emeritus at the Cross Bones School of Sandbagging;)

I was lukewarm on the Huskies before the season - but I am drinking the cool aid from Ogden more and more - especially after dismantling WN. Full Disclosure - WN was my sleeper pick to make waves in the DVC this year - not the Huskies.

Take care of Lake Park on Friday and you don't even need a win against NV/GBN/WV to make the playoffs.
 

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Truthfully, gooms, I thought your movements were solid and well formed.

The Fenwick ranking I get, and I was a little surprised that you were the only DSR voter to show some love to the Friars after they beat two defending state champs. The only problem I have with Fenwick and your rankings, though, is that you didn't rank LWE. In a head to head match-up between the Friars and the Griffins, I'll take the Griffins.

Well that a 1st. To me undefeated means something, probably more than most. Is LWE favored over Fenwick? Yeah they are. But that's not the point of the DSR. The point is who you've beaten and how badly you've beaten them.
 
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To me undefeated means something,

Then why have a 2-1 MC at #9 when there are other 3-0 teams (like Pats, for example) who definitely have played a tougher schedule than MC has to date?

Is LWE favored over Fenwick? Yeah they are. But that's not the point of the DSR. The point is who you've beaten and how badly you've beaten them.

Is it? Because if it is, then how can you have LA as high as you do? They have won two games by some pretty close margins. Same with GW (your current #4), a 14-6 victor over a winless HS.
 

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JCHILL:

No, ramblinman more closely resembles Justice Alito.

Ramblinman, like Alito, is a skeptic; he is rational, unflappable, self-assured and, like me, a natural contrarian whose only concern is the facts.

I suspect ramblin waits patiently for each new edition of the DSR, reads your bile with great care, rolls his eyes and, dismissing the DSR as a paradox, proceeds to dismantle each voters' analysis with immense eagerness and intellectual dexterity.

Beethoven impresses me and ramblinman's reference to the great German composer represents a sophistication which is similarly manifest in his investigations of the weekly DSR.

While I prefer the Baroque period in both music and art, the works of Rembrandt and Georg Philipp Telemann, Johann Sebastian Bach and Antonio Vivaldi are a passion of mine, I do not begrudge the man for the reason he chose a classical composer and not some fourth-rate modern musician spewing rot to underscore his example of "movement" in the DSR.

Giants of the Baroque period, I would suggest readers take a moment to listen the the beauty of Vivaldi and Bach. This particular piece by Bach from his Brandenburg concerto no. three is a favorite of mine, as is Vivaldi's concerto mandolini.

I only recommend you listen for a moment as this is not an attempt to lure anyone to becoming devotees to classical music. Lord knows some on this site could use a bit of culture, but I don't think I clutch the cunning to influence a mass shift to appreciate music or art as edifying as these.

As far as the Brandeis comparison, I hope ramblin will forgive JC for his reckless choice: Brandeis was an incorrigible progressive and his retirement in 1939 paved the way for the elevation and 36-year tenure of the appalling William O. Douglas.

I cringe writing either Justices' name.
braneis only because of being famous for his dissent. I take no quarrel with you good sir knight.
 
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JCHILLTOPPERS

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The only problem I have with Fenwick and your rankings, though, is that you didn't rank LWE. In a head to head match-up between the Friars and the Griffins, I'll take the Griffins.

that is the problem. I'll wager heavily LWE does well in the playoffs.

Honestly, i'm way more interested in seeing LWE three years from now, then now. What is going to happen? Are they the next WWS, MS...public school terror...or are they going to get beat up by school district politics and transfers? 140?
 

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I wonder what bodily function Ramblin will work into next week's critique.
 

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Then why have a 2-1 MC at #9 when there are other 3-0 teams (like Pats, for example) who definitely have played a tougher schedule than MC has to date?

I have Palatine #9. MC was #9 last week.

Is it? Because if it is, then how can you have LA as high as you do? They have won two games by some pretty close margins. Same with GW (your current #4), a 14-6 victor over a winless HS.

Loyola THIS YEAR is the best team in the state right now. GW although not offensively impressive have beaten 2 fairly good teams in HS and Brook.