Darkside Ranking, 2015, Vol. 3

[JCHILLTOPPERS]

Well: There goes the neighborhood.

There are a hand full of great games this week - highlighted IMO by Stevenson vs Libertyville...but next weekend things really get hot...here goes:

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10.44 (NR): Phillips: It’s hard to deny something is going on at Phillips. Speed, coaching, and size...check, check, check. This one is controversial to doubt, not only does the inclusion of Phillips result in the panel’s first ever 4a team, but it also means the exclusion of any DVC teams (spoiler)…next in was NV. To some extent, Philips gets in because the panel does not know what to do with NV/NC/WV (all of which received at least one vote/split votes)…In the end, one of these teams will climb back in…but for now, 4a Phillips gets the spotlight.

9.3 (9.3) HC: Through five weeks, HC’s lowest PF is 41…their total PF is 230 - tat's a damn impressive number. This week’s opponent is Proviso West who twice lost this season when giving up 41 points or more…my guess is this week becomes the third. Takers? Ok, let’s double down…next week HC gets GW...I say HC scores less than 41 in that game.

9.11 (NR) Libertyville: Well looky here….Newt’s been on this all season. Here’s the deal, so far Libertyville's competition has been just so-so, but their PFA is 186:35, second only to Bartlett frosh from a decade ago…In what is likely the game of the week, Lady Liberty gets cousin Steve @ Steve's house….if you are following closely, you will have noticed Stevie, despite winning last week dropped out of the DSR….Curiously, this week ten voters ranked Libertyville (and did not rank Steve) while only Bones ranked Steve (and did not rank Liberty) …but we all know bones is the resident sandbagger…basically, the board is all in on Libertyville defeating Stevenson this week…how exciting!

8.22 (10.1) OPRF: OPRF’s DSR rank equals the time in percentage in which they spent preparing for this week’s opponent, York….The remaining 91.8% was spent studying for next week's opponent, GW…whom by the way, OPRF gets at home…yatzee. Damn...think I'll be in attendance.

5.67(7.3) JCA: Well, hmm. This week got a lot more interesting. With MCC defeating Naz, suddenly the ESCC got a lot more competitive. MCC PF: 139, JCA PF: 158; MCC PA: 67, JCA PA: 48…no common opponents. MCC got a vote this week from the panel…beat JCA and they will get a few more…JCA gets MCC this week then Naz next…luckily, both at home. Man the next few weeks are going to be fannnntastic.

5.56 (6.4) MC: Uh oh, the panel puts Caravan behind Bronco. Interestingly, the voters had a ton of trouble with MC this week. Six voters had MC at 6 or 7 while the remainder had them at 3 or 4. Rambl will love this. However, there is logic behind it. There are two schools of thought: Some look at MC and say, well, they have a solid defense, played a decent schedule, and are undefeated in the Blue. The other school is…we’ve seen this MC team before, solid defense, capable offense…and capable of turning the ball over a lot. Thus the split. Rice in two weeks should finally resolve this issue.

4.33 (5.8) Montini: Rumor is along with 7a, Bronco gets a date with a young MC team next season. When the two play, this rank will be all that is on their minds. Leo, St. Joes...then finally SF....more on Bronco when we get there.

3.44 (3.2) GW: Again...GW’s rank equals the exact amount of time by percentage that GW spent prepping for Lyons this week. The remaining 96.6% was spent preparing for the following two weeks: HC and OPRF! As I posted previously, IMO, these will be the toughest two regular season games back-to-back for GW in recent history. ………….>>

1.89 (2.5) MW made an appearance this week: I hate to say it, cause it’s the Blue, but LA should be on cruise now until week 9. Week 9, IMO, though, is way more important to MC for seeding reasons…

1.11 (1.1) HF: Four weeks ago I really looked forward to the Brook-HF game, now... Bones? I’m at an interesting crossroads however: This week, GoldenDome boy opined on Edgy that HF was the most talented team in IL in the last 20 years, if not longer…while on Twitter, Throrton alum, variant, @onutwo64 let me know that Thorton has more talent at every position than does HF…I don’t know what to do now! Interestingly, thorton is 4-0, with a PF to PA of 153-6. Thorton plays LWW in two weeks, I’ll be watching for you Thorton alum!

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[Bwm57]

I will be at LT-GW game on Saturday, hopefully they did only spend 3.44% of their time preparing for that game.

 

[JCHILLTOPPERS]

I will be at LT-GW game on Saturday, hopefully they did only spend 3.44% of their time preparing for that game.

look forward to your report...you never know....

 

[DeanOfSelection]

Well: There goes the neighborhood.

There are a hand full of great games this week - highlighted IMO by Stevenson vs Libertyville...but next weekend things really get hot...here goes:

--

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...cC26AE4lL5z68Ho28KTUUHfGk/edit#gid=1263828911

10.44 (NR): Phillips: It’s hard to deny something is going on at Phillips. Speed, coaching, and size...check, check, check. This one is controversial to doubt, not only does the inclusion of Phillips result in the panel’s first ever 4a team, but it also means the exclusion of any DVC teams (spoiler)…next in was NV. To some extent, Philips gets in because the panel does not know what to do with NV/NC/WV (all of which received at least one vote/split votes)…In the end, one of these teams will climb back in…but for now, 4a Phillips gets the spotlight.

9.3 (9.3) HC: Through five weeks, HC’s lowest PF is 41…their total PF is 230 - tat's a damn impressive number. This week’s opponent is Proviso West who twice lost this season when giving up 41 points or more…my guess is this week becomes the third. Takers? Ok, let’s double down…next week HC gets GW...I say HC scores less than 41 in that game.

9.11 (NR) Libertyville: Well looky here….Newt’s been on this all season. Here’s the deal, so far Libertyville's competition has been just so-so, but their PFA is 186:35, second only to Bartlett frosh from a decade ago…In what is likely the game of the week, Lady Liberty gets cousin Steve @ Steve's house….if you are following closely, you will have noticed Stevie, despite winning last week dropped out of the DSR….Curiously, this week ten voters ranked Libertyville (and did not rank Steve) while only Bones ranked Steve (and did not rank Liberty) …but we all know bones is the resident sandbagger…basically, the board is all in on Libertyville defeating Stevenson this week…how exciting!

8.22 (10.1) OPRF: OPRF’s DSR rank equals the time in percentage in which they spent preparing for this week’s opponent, York….The remaining 91.8% was spent studying for next week's opponent, GW…whom by the way, OPRF gets at home…yatzee. Damn...think I'll be in attendance.

5.67(7.3) JCA: Well, hmm. This week got a lot more interesting. With MCC defeating Naz, suddenly the ESCC got a lot more competitive. MCC PF: 139, JCA PF: 158; MCC PA: 67, JCA PA: 48…no common opponents. MCC got a vote this week from the panel…beat JCA and they will get a few more…JCA gets MCC this week then Naz next…luckily, both at home. Man the next few weeks are going to be fannnntastic.

5.56 (6.4) MC: Uh oh, the panel puts Caravan behind Bronco. Interestingly, the voters had a ton of trouble with MC this week. Six voters had MC at 6 or 7 while the remainder had them at 3 or 4. Rambl will love this. However, there is logic behind it. There are two schools of thought: Some look at MC and say, well, they have a solid defense, played a decent schedule, and are undefeated in the Blue. The other school is…we’ve seen this MC team before, solid defense, capable offense…and capable of turning the ball over a lot. Thus the split. Rice in two weeks should finally resolve this issue.

4.33 (5.8) Montini: Rumor is along with 7a, Bronco gets a date with a young MC team next season. When the two play, this rank will be all that is on their minds. Leo, St. Joes...then finally SF....more on Bronco when we get there.

3.44 (3.2) GW: Again...GW’s rank equals the exact amount of time by percentage that GW spent prepping for Lyons this week. The remaining 96.6% was spent preparing for the following two weeks: HC and OPRF! As I posted previously, IMO, these will be the toughest two regular season games back-to-back for GW in recent history. ………….>>

1.89 (2.5) MW made an appearance this week: I hate to say it, cause it’s the Blue, but LA should be on cruise now until week 9. Week 9, IMO, though, is way more important to MC for seeding reasons…

1.11 (1.1) HF: Four weeks ago I really looked forward to the Brook-HF game, now... Bones? I’m at an interesting crossroads however: This week, GoldenDome boy opined on Edgy that HF was the most talented team in IL in the last 20 years, if not longer…while on Twitter, Throrton alum, variant, @onutwo64 let me know that Thorton has more talent at every position than does HF…I don’t know what to do now! Interestingly, thorton is 4-0, with a PF to PA of 153-6. Thorton plays LWW in two weeks, I’ll be watching for you Thorton alum!

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We encourage your thoughts and individually stand ready to defend.

Now, my sources tell me that MC gets Montini next year and open with JC. They also tell that that you plan to make a move against the Tropigala. They tell me that within a week you're gonna move Klingman out. That's quite an expansion. However, it will leave you with one little technical problem. The license will still be in Klingman's name...Well, let's cut out the bulls--t. I don't want to spend any more time here than I have to. You can have the license - the price is an edgy give card, plus a monthly payment of five percent of the gross. Of all four hotels, Mr. JChilltopperone

 

[capnbillhitters]

Lyons was the last team in WSS to beat GW back in 2010, so anything is possible.

I'm glad the soph QB at LT has gotten his feet under him before this test. He may wear out GW over the next three years, but my hunch is that he will be challenged significantly by GW LB Nico Gagliano who has double digit sacks after four games.

Plus it is LT homecoming so they will likely be ready to bring it to GW. Looking forward to a fun game.

Psst. Be sure to keep your eye on GW #4. Word is he likes running on turf

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

You blocks! You stones! You worse than senseless things!

1. How can all but one voter (newt) leave unranked a 4-0 MCC team that last weekend notched a 15 point W over Naz, a then undefeated team ranked #8 in the DSR?

2. How does Naz go from ranked #8 and ranked by all but one (pjjp), and as high as #2 by gooms, last week to completely unranked by all this week?

3. If Naz lost that badly and that's why you aren't ranking them, then shouldn't more of you be ranking the 4-0 team that beat them?

4. MCHS and godfather, how dare you not acknowledge the supreme greatness of H-F?

5. Knew you not Pompey?

Moving on...

We are ready to begin our DSR Jeopardy round where the only category is Not Ready for the Bandwagon. ramblinman, you are our only contestant, so please select.

I'll take Not Ready for the Bandwagon for 100, Alex.

The answer is: Stevie

Who is everyone except Bones?

RIGHT!

Not ready for 200 please.

The answer is: Montini

Who is MCHS?

Right again!

NRFTB for 400, Alex.

The answer is: Cary Grove

Who is everyone except DOS?

Yes, you're on a roll, ramblinman. Please select.

800

The answer is: The People's Republic of Oak Park

Who are guerinfan and newt?

Correct! And our last answer in the category of Not Ready for the Bandwagon is our toughest one. The answer is: The 3-1 team that has accumulated 63 pts for and 55 pts against.

...long pause...

Ummmm, everyone except guerinfan?

YES! Well played, ramblinman!

 

[kingwilliam1855]

1.11 (1.1) HF: Four weeks ago I really looked forward to the Brook-HF game, now... Bones? I’m at an interesting crossroads however: This week, GoldenDome boy opined on Edgy that HF was the most talented team in IL in the last 20 years, if not longer…while on Twitter, Throrton alum, variant, @onutwo64 let me know that Thorton has more talent at every position than does HF…I don’t know what to do now! Interestingly, thorton is 4-0, with a PF to PA of 153-6. Thorton plays LWW in two weeks, I’ll be watching for you Thorton alum!

Thornton has also played 4 teams with a combined record of 5-11 and now play 3 straight against teams that are a combined 12-0. I guess you will find out in short order if they are for real or not.

 

[mchsalumni]

The ramblings of @ramblinman always make me smile. Well played.

 

[mchsalumni]

You blocks! You stones! You worse than senseless things!

1. How can all but one voter (newt) leave unranked a 4-0 MCC team that last weekend notched a 15 point W over Naz, a then undefeated team ranked #8 in the DSR?

2. How does Naz go from ranked #8 and ranked by all but one (pjjp), and as high as #2 by gooms, last week to completely unranked by all this week?

3. If Naz lost that badly and that's why you aren't ranking them, then shouldn't more of you be ranking the 4-0 team that beat them?

4. MCHS and godfather, how dare you not acknowledge the supreme greatness of H-F?

1. They were my #11. I'm starting to wonder if the ESCC is cupcake city this year, save JCA, which is why I backed down from them entering the top 10.

2. I had them 10 so not my burden.

3. See #1

4. I just like what I see from GBW, not a knock on HF. I flopped from last week, and could flop again, depending on outcome of games in the coming weeks.

 

[pjjp]

Ramblin....I can't speak for other DSR voters, since I did not rank Naz. But, maybe they dropped Naz after their upset loss, because you convinced them that Naz should not have been ranked in the first place. In Feeto's upset thread, you also raised the possibility of a Naz upset due to the weather conditions and MCC's grass field. You seem to be in a perfect position to say: I told you so. But, you've refrained. Could this be because of a bit of humility? From a Jesuit?

 

[mchsalumni]

Could this be because of a bit of humility? From a Jesuit?

lol, unlikely.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

Ramblin....I can't speak for other DSR voters, since I did not rank Naz. But, maybe they dropped Naz after their upset loss, because you convinced them that Naz should not have been ranked in the first place. In Feeto's upset thread, you also raised the possibility of a Naz upset due to the weather conditions and MCC's grass field. You seem to be in a perfect position to say: I told you so. But, you've refrained. Could this be because of a bit of humility? From a Jesuit?

Considering that I just got all the questions correct in a game of DSR Jeopardy that I created and in which I was the only contestant, that balances out my refraining to say I told ya so regarding Naz.

 

[BretEpic]

I'd have Naz in the top 15. 9 to top 15 isn't exactly precipitous.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

I'd have Naz in the top 15. 9 to top 15 isn't exactly precipitous.

Okay, but where would you have MCC?

 

[JCHILLTOPPERS]

Okay, but where would you have MCC?

I'll take a stab:

I thought about but did not seriously consider ranking MCC.

The Naz MCC game was a weird one. Naz jumps out to a 19-0 lead. The game is delayed for 90 minutes. There is no real halftime. MCC wins 34-19 in a downpour.

That's a strange scenario. Is it not?

I am certainly not a Naz-appologist and quite simply, unless MCC is truly the better team, Naz had no business losing that game. I've seen good teams win in all kinds of elements, so I can't let the weather reason pass as a justification for the loss.

So what do we make of this victory for MCC? I think there is good reason to have them in the top 15.

If Naz was in fact overrated, then there's no reason to go crazy and have MCC leap others such as Steve or NV. In this scenario, MCC simply beat a good team, not a top ten team. Lots of teams do that every week.

If Naz was in fact a top ten team, perhaps? this was a true upset? meaning that we should still rank Naz ahead of MCC despite the outcome of their game. I don't think we can go there yet...but I do if JCA beats MCC and Naz beats JCA...so I can't play that yet, but I'll keep it in mind (see below re this scenario).

Or, maybe Naz was properly ranked, and we've all overlooked MCC. Sure, this is possible, but unlikely.

The last option is the most likeliest. Naz was slightly overranked, MCC slightly underranked, the two were evenly or close to evenly matched, and MCC won. In this scenario, given Naz is a defending champ who hasn't lost in a year and a half, IMO, ranking-wise, this is a worse loss for Naz than better win for MCC.

So this is a long way of saying...without having a notion of where I would have ranked MCC last week, I'd probably put them somewhere in the 13-15ish range. I'd put Naz right behind them.

The DSR was born to be a living document that changed without reservation week to week. We wait two weeks to rank teams get a better grasp of where they are...I use that same standard for teams that were not on my radar, but now are....If MCC wins this week, they will find a spot in my rankings. If MCC loses...well, then we wait and see what happens with JCA-Naz.

If JCA beats MCC and loses to Naz, then i think we are looking at an overrated ESCC...in which case, I think none will be ranked unless similar situations arise in the blue and the WSC (they already exist in the DVC) . God, please don't let that happen.

now that is a ramble of a post...

 

[Dino brown]

I'll take a stab:

I thought about but did not seriously consider ranking MCC.

The Naz MCC game was a weird one. Naz jumps out to a 19-0 lead. The game is delayed for 90 minutes. There is no real halftime. MCC wins 34-19 in a downpour.

That's a strange scenario. Is it not?

I am certainly not a Naz-appologist and quite simply, unless MCC is truly the better team, Naz had no business losing that game. I've seen good teams win in all kinds of elements, so I can't let the weather reason pass as a justification for the loss.

So what do we make of this victory for MCC? I think there is good reason to have them in the top 15.

If Naz was in fact overrated, then there's no reason to go crazy and have MCC leap others such as Steve or NV. In this scenario, MCC simply beat a good team, not a top ten team. Lots of teams do that every week.

If Naz was in fact a top ten team, perhaps? this was a true upset? meaning that we should still rank Naz ahead of MCC despite the outcome of their game. I don't think we can go there yet...but I do if JCA beats MCC and Naz beats JCA...so I can't play that yet, but I'll keep it in mind (see below re this scenario).

Or, maybe Naz was properly ranked, and we've all overlooked MCC. Sure, this is possible, but unlikely.

The last option is the most likeliest. Naz was slightly overranked, MCC slightly underranked, the two were evenly or close to evenly matched, and MCC won. In this scenario, given Naz is a defending champ who hasn't lost in a year and a half, IMO, ranking-wise, this is a worse loss for Naz than better win for MCC.

So this is a long way of saying...without having a notion of where I would have ranked MCC last week, I'd probably put them somewhere in the 13-15ish range. I'd put Naz right behind them.

The DSR was born to be a living document that changed without reservation week to week. We wait two weeks to rank teams get a better grasp of where they are...I use that same standard for teams that were not on my radar, but now are....If MCC wins this week, they will find a spot in my rankings. If MCC loses...well, then we wait and see what happens with JCA-Naz.

If JCA beats MCC and loses to Naz, then i think we are looking at an overrated ESCC...in which case, I think none will be ranked unless similar situations arise in the blue and the WSC (they already exist in the DVC) . God, please don't let that happen.

now that is a ramble of a post...

If Naz played MCC played 10 times how many times do you think MCC beats Naz?i say they win 2 out of the 10 games,and if they play on turf they lose 10 out 10.now IM not saying MCC wasn't the better team that half and I'm not here making any excuses because I have seen it first hand with my own kid and team the minute the conditions change and it gets chilly and wet out there all of sudden nobody is giving max effort and the results is an *** whooping.not saying every team is like that but I seen it a couple of times last year and we were the recipients of that *** kicking.these days it all depends o. What side of town and program your kid came up in,if they are mostly finnes players trust me they are not trying to get down and dirty.if your program has those rugged smash mouth players the worst the conditions are the more they thrive.call me crazy but that's what I've seen from personal experience.

 

[Bowie50]

If the queen had balls she'd be king.

 

[eireog]

Could MCC just be right time, right place ? Only time will tell.

 

[ignazio]

If the queen had balls she'd be king.

Or Queen Caitlyn, you unenlightened creature, you.

 

[BretEpic]

I'd have Naz in the top 15. 9 to top 15 isn't exactly precipitous.

I'd have MCC right there with Naz

 

[NazDad]

If Naz played MCC played 10 times how many times do you think MCC beats Naz?i say they win 2 out of the 10 games,and if they play on turf they lose 10 out 10.now IM not saying MCC wasn't the better team that half and I'm not here making any excuses because I have seen it first hand with my own kid and team the minute the conditions change and it gets chilly and wet out there all of sudden nobody is giving max effort and the results is an *** whooping.not saying every team is like that but I seen it a couple of times last year and we were the recipients of that *** kicking.these days it all depends o. What side of town and program your kid came up in,if they are mostly finnes players trust me they are not trying to get down and dirty.if your program has those rugged smash mouth players the worst the conditions are the more they thrive.call me crazy but that's what I've seen from personal experience.

They only play once and MCC won. Give MCC a Win, give Naz a playoff point, move on to the next game.

 

[LHSTigers94]

What's interesting is once people on this site turn they back on a team, it become a no win situation. I see a lot of people jumping on Naz because they lost to MCC however, there were several people, (a majority) that had PC ranked in top 10 simply because they won state last year. When Naz supporters rank Naz for the same reason, they are considered homers. Crazy. I think JHill has the most accurate assessment with Epic being close with the actual ranking 10-15 and both teams being close. One thing for sure, Naz was not as overrated as PC, Simeon, Bolingbrook, WWS, etc. so why the heavy hate for Naz?

I will also say what's funny is, in 2006 ESL had a similar situation as Naz with PC in the QTR's of the playoff. It was a 90 min rain delay in which PC ending up beating Flyers 35-14. When I spoke about the conditions everyone treated it as an excuse. If I recall correctly, Epic was one of them. (Not a shot Epic as I respect your post) The reality is MUD slows speed down. If your team built for speed conditions will affect the outcome. All good and most GREAT teams have a flaw. The difficulty is finding that flaw. MCC with mother nature helped find that flaw. I guarantee you MCC didn't think twice about rescheduling the game based on TRUE home field advantage.

Just a thought from an outsider.

 

[JCHILLTOPPERS]

They only play once and MCC won. Give MCC a Win, give Naz a playoff point, move on to the next game.

unfortunately, that philosophy is for players...for message boards and rankings...we can't, that's why these forums exist.

 

[JCHILLTOPPERS]

What's interesting is once people on this site turn they back on a team, it become a no win situation. I see a lot of people jumping on Naz because they lost to MCC however, there were several people, (a majority) that had PC ranked in top 10 simply because they won state last year. When Naz supporters rank Naz for the same reason, they are considered homers. Crazy. I think JHill has the most accurate assessment with Epic being close with the actual ranking 10-15 and both teams being close. One thing for sure, Naz was not as overrated as PC, Simeon, Bolingbrook, WWS, etc. so why the heavy hate for Naz?

I will also say what's funny is, in 2006 ESL had a similar situation as Naz with PC in the QTR's of the playoff. It was a 90 min rain delay in which PC ending up beating Flyers 35-14. When I spoke about the conditions everyone treated it as an excuse. If I recall correctly, Epic was one of them. (Not a shot Epic as I respect your post) The reality is MUD slows speed down. If your team built for speed conditions will affect the outcome. All good and most GREAT teams have a flaw. The difficulty is finding that flaw. MCC with mother nature helped find that flaw. I guarantee you MCC didn't think twice about rescheduling the game based on TRUE home field advantage.

Just a thought from an outsider.

i remember that game LTHS. These situations are crazy and unpredictable.

I think you can't take this game and evaluate it in a vacuum. Luckily, the way the escc is set up this season, we'll have a better understanding - if not an answer, in two weeks.

The only contention i have with some of the analysis is that i don't think Naz's offense was all the problem...but only the offense has bore the criticism....all the speak of finnes teams etc. Naz's defense gave up 4 TDs (MCC's first score came via kick off). I've never heard of a defense described as finnes...Naz's defense should be better than that.

Something happened though, that cannot be ignored/denied. Naz had this game in hand...then suddenly can't score on MCC nor stop straight forward running plays - at all? But then again, JCA was up 17 point on Montini with 2 minutes left in the third quarter at home in the quarters two years ago...we lost. so...maybe MCC just out played Naz. Just too hard to make anything more than a guess right now.

 

[SweetWalter34]

so why the heavy hate for Naz?

No "hate" here. And definitely no "heavy hate". Naz is a fine school. I wish we had more like them.

Since you asked a sincere question...
Speaking only for myself, I find the Naz fans posting on this board, generally, to be prone to overstatement. Also, to me, they sound whiny lately.

 

[LHSTigers94]

No "hate" here. And definitely no "heavy hate". Naz is a fine school. I wish we had more like them.

Since you asked a sincere question...
Speaking only for myself, I find the Naz fans posting on this board, generally, to be prone to overstatement. Also, to me, they sound whiny lately.

I agree with that in general for some posters. It has also been proven that most are not actual "Naz supporters". I really onl pay attention to Epic, Jwar and Nazdad for a true Naz perspective. I chimed in on a different post with a similar feeling but the true supporters educated me on who is who. The bottom line is people are attacking them because they feel their team last year was great and this year team will be good. I personally don't think that is fair but I am just one poster. I posted on this topic because we had a very similar situation happen to us but, the main difference was we were at home. We begged the AD to cancel the game and resume play on Saturday. It was so bad that the stadium lights went out for 30 minutes until the Electric company showed up. Forget the field conditions, a 90 minute delay in itself can have a huge affect on any team.

 

[dtlove3434]

LOL!

I agree with that in general for some posters. It has also been proven that most are not actual "Naz supporters". I really onl pay attention to Epic, Jwar and Nazdad for a true Naz perspective. I chimed in on a different post with a similar feeling but the true supporters educated me on who is who. The bottom line is people are attacking them because they feel their team last year was great and this year team will be good. I personally don't think that is fair but I am just one poster. I posted on this topic because we had a very similar situation happen to us but, the main difference was we were at home. We begged the AD to cancel the game and resume play on Saturday. It was so bad that the stadium lights went out for 30 minutes until the Electric company showed up. Forget the field conditions, a 90 minute delay in itself can have a huge affect on any team.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

What's interesting is once people on this site turn they back on a team, it become a no win situation. I see a lot of people jumping on Naz because they lost to MCC however, there were several people, (a majority) that had PC ranked in top 10 simply because they won state last year.

That is simply untrue.

Volume 1 of the DSR came out after week two when PC was 0-2. Not one voter had PC ranked. Not one.

When Naz supporters rank Naz for the same reason, they are considered homers. Crazy.

Again, volume 1 of the DSR came out after week 2. At that point, nobody should be ranking schools based on winning state over 9 months ago. As has been stated and confirmed on several occasions, the DSR is designed to be a what have you done for me lately ranking based very much on SOS. This format is precisely what separates the DSR from other rankings that take tradition and potential into consideration, and I will call out attempts to try to change the DSR into what other polls do. The DSR is most definitely not about where a team was on the previous Thanksgiving weekend or where a team will be on the next Thanksgiving weekend. Nor is it about roster size or vertical jumps or 40 times or who can bench press the most. More than anything else, the DSR is a week to week snapshot based on how a team has done this year and against whom have they done it. To borrow what JCHILL said in a previous post in this very thread, "The DSR was born to be a living document that changed without reservation week to week. We wait two weeks to rank teams get a better grasp of where they are...I use that same standard for teams that were not on my radar, but now are..."

I called the Naz fan voters homers after Volume 1 came out. There were 9 voters in volume 1. Of those 9, five did not rank Naz at all. Of the minority four who did, one Naz fan voter ranked them a #6 and the other Naz fan voter had them at #9. The two other DSR voters who ranked Naz in volume 1 had them at #9 and #10. The reason why I called the Naz fan DSR voters homers is that, by beating Bloomington and Leo in weeks 1 and 2, I felt that Naz had not proven enough this year to deserve to be ranked.

I have no regrets in calling homerism on the Naz fan DSR voters. My only regret is that I didn't call out the other two voters who also ranked Naz after week 2. I couldn't have called them homers, but I could have called them something else like starstruck or, as it turns out, just plain old wrong.

 

[dtlove3434]

Let the season run its course. The results of the games played on the field will dictate how far a team goes. I never looked at rankings last year and I pay no attention to them this year. Naz has a pretty good team but they must win on the field and not in blogs. They have lost 1 game in two years. I think they are okay!

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

I never looked at rankings last year and I pay no attention to them this year.

Pure happenstance, of course, that you have two posts in this Dark Side Rankings thread...

 

[SweetWalter34]

I never looked at rankings last year and I pay no attention to them this year.

Uh, dtlove, you posted that on a forum thread titled "Dark Side Rankings"...

 

[dtlove3434]

I read everything and this is my first year actually posting anything. And after this drama, I will not again! Lol but you guys are funny!

 

[SweetWalter34]

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I read everything and this is my first year actually posting anything. And after this drama, I will not again! Lol but you guys are funny!

That's probably best.

 

[dtlove3434]

Sweetwalter, is it personal? Lol

 

[JCHILLTOPPERS]

Sweetwalter, is it personal? Lol

dtlove

either talk rankings or bounce...don't hijack my thread please.

 

[BretEpic]

I read everything and this is my first year actually posting anything. And after this drama, I will not again! Lol but you guys are funny!

We got the boys covered, you can avoid the heathens here. Got your back pops.

 

[dtlove3434]

I will bounce.

 

[Anon1754760634]

Yeah DT love could get DT Launched soon if this keeps up.....

 

[dtlove3434]

LOL

 

[JCHILLTOPPERS]

We got the boys covered, you can avoid the heathens here. Got your back pops.

epic...that poll deserved that...it had no reflector....just sayin.